Advice on new e-cig... PLEASE HELP!

[ilibizzyili]

I bought an e cig 2-3 years ago when I had first heard of them. I did hours and hours of research before ending up with the model I got (forgot the name now). Anywho it was one that was about the same size as a regular cig (maybe a hair bigger) and had mini in the name i think. It came with a few cartridges, atomizers, and a battery. I liked this cigarette and need advice on getting one now. The reason I am asking for your help is that there are now sooo many more varieties and I don't have the time to research like i did the first time. Please give me a good one to buy as I want to buy it tomorrow.

Here are the key things i need:
-cigarette size
-looks like cigarette
-uses e liquid (refillable cartridges) as I still have 2 bottles from totally wicked e-liquid
-maximum throat hit... this is very important
-maximum visible smoke
-kit for less than $100 bucks

Thankyou guys very much for your help!!! Tell me exactly which model to buy and why - as I want to come back to this tomorrow, read it, and be convinced! I don't want to get into any endless exhausting research!

NOTE** The old ecig I had is the m402 I'm pretty sure. The problem before was that excessive bass when I was out would trigger the atomizer and would burn it out. I work at bar so I don't want this to happen. Is the m402 still a good e cig otherwise? If I don't get the help I need here I could always just buy another one of those as I still have a couple cartridges and batteries... no working atomizers or charger though so I could definately go with something different.

 

[elfstone]

First off, welcome and congratulations on switching to vaping.

Second - I just want to make sure you understand that the smaller the form factor, the lower the performance. There is, to date, no cigarette lookalike device that performs as well as larger devices - both in terms of available power and in terms of duration of charge and longevity. Rule of thumb: the more it looks like a cigarette, the worse it vapes. There is no way you can get maximum anything with these, but they might just do the trick...

That said, I can also understand and respect your preference.

The more popular type of cigarette lookalike these days is the one called KR808. To confuse things a bit, there can be any size / type of battery that uses a KR808 connector - so it can use cartomizers that work with KR808 e-cigarettes, but for the most part, when one says KR808 they refer to an e-cig form factor. Also, by far, using cartomizers or clearomizers is superior to the old and deprecated atomizer-cartridge setup.

The most popular among vapers here seems to be the Volt line of products from Smokeless Image. They are priced reasonably, they are very well performing and SI has good customer service and they also sell decent juice. You can use the Volt with cartomizers and other attachments marked KR808 and you can buy those from many different places. You will also be able to use juice from any vendor.

One thing to remember - on cigarette sized devices you should only use "standard resistance" (~3 Ohm) cartomizers / clearomizers / atomizers.

I strongly recommend getting the manual battery rather than the automatic ones. It is easier to get a good vaping experience with the push-button, manual type. Also, even if the Volt boasts sealed automatic batteries, you still could get liquid inside the automatic and this will break it.

Other fine options in this class are the Smoov and the Bloog.

A good accessory to consider with all these is a PCC, or a portable charging case. It will keep you batteries charged on the go - they are so small that you will run out of charge throughout the day. You need at least two batteries of any kind anyway, but in this form factor I would recommend at least four to start off with.

These are all opinions based on frequent feedback from users around here. I don't use or own any of these devices.

Good luck and vape on!

 

[sailorman]

E-cigs have come miles in the last 2 or 3 years.
Companies have come and gone. The 402 minis are still around somewhere, but they've been pretty well outclassed and outperformed by the kr808 types.

IMO, and I'm far from alone in this, the best mini-cigarette type to buy is the 808. The cartomizers (cartridges) are easy to find and reasonably priced. They're refillable and perform better than anything that existed in that class 2 or 3 years ago.

You can get a Volt, with a charging case, two new batteries, and blank cartomizers with $100 and have plenty of money left over for juice, more cartomizers, and/or a third battery.

The volt is the most recommended mini-cigarette type of e-cig on this forum. Even people like me, who generally advise against anything the size of a cigarett, recommend the Volt for those who absolutely insist on a mini-cig.

The key thing you want of maximum visible smoke (vapor), is not a function of the e-cig. If you want that, use juice with maximum VG content.

If you want maximum throat hit, the only way to get it in a mini is to maximize the nicotine content. This contradicts your desire for maximum vapor because while VG produces maximum vapor, it mutes throat hit. That's a balancing act that you're going to need to experiment with when you choose your juice. No good mini is any better than the other when it comes to maximizing throat hit. That's the role of the juice.

Looks like a cigarette.- If you mean a white battery and a filter colored cartomizer, then no. I am not aware of any mini worth putting in your mouth that offers that color scheme. Some crappy models do, but I don't believe the Volt does and that's the one I'm going to recommend above all others. You can check the site. I could be wrong. But I don't think they offer that color combination.

The Volt uses standard 808 sized Kanger horizontal coil cartomizers you can get many places including the site where you get the Volt. They come pre-filled or, on the accessory page, blank ones are available for you to fill.

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I suggest paying $1 more for the 78mm batteries. They have over 50% more capacity than the standard batteries.

 

[sailorman]

Also, about the problem with going off in the presence of loud noise. The Volt pretty much has that licked. It's not really a problem any more like it used to be. Nevertheless, I agree with elfstone. Go with the manual batteries. They give you much more control over your hit. They are sealed better than the automatics and it takes about 5 minutes before pushing that button is second nature. Manuals also help with vapor production because they don't have an automatic cutoff like automatic batteries and you can press the button to "preheat" your juice, resulting in more and warmer vapor.

 

[spaceballsrules]

Get a Volt kit.

Here is a video that demonstrates a Volt battery under extreme noise conditions.....

 

[Smile n' shine]

All great advice....but may I mention the bloogs are on sale and a pcc starter kit for 49.99. I own them and don't have any issues, just get a sealed battery. The cartos are good, nice vapor. But whatever brand you choose, definitely get an 808 model. Good luck to you.

 

[kookycole]

I agree with the recommendations of the Volt from Smokeless Image. They don't have batteries that look exactly like a cigarette, but you can get a white one with an orange LED. I think the best coupon they have right now is voltsave, which will give you a 16% discount. Also, if you decide to buy from them, they also have a promotion on this forum where you can get a free battery, juice, or cartomizers for posting a picture of yourself with your volt:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-your-freebie-faces-volt-smokeless-image.html

 

[JENerationX]

I originally got the Volt kit with the PCC charging case. I don't use it. It holds one fully assembled (batt + carto) and charges one batt. You get about 3 charges out of that (with 78mm batteries). It takes the case forever to charge. Unless you absolutely must be somewhere with only 2 batteries and no usb or wall chargers available, it's kind of a waste in my opinion because you'll still need more than one carto per day and will have to carry those somewhere. Depending on your vape pace, you'll get 3ish hours out of a 78mm (active vaping time). I found myself OCD-ish about running out of vape time, and not liking carrying the PCC plus somewhere else for extra cartos etc. I ended up buying the $44.95 (or$49.95, my memory is foggy) kit with 2 more batteries, another USB and wall wart charger. I got a little Golla bag at Target (made for carrying an ipod touch + accessories) and carried 4 batteries, a bunch of cartos, and if I thought I'd need it a tiny bottle of juice in that. (At least on morning-night out of the house days) I just felt better having fully charged batteries ready to go and not worry about outvaping the charge pace on the PCC. YMMV of course, but unless you know you want the PCC... I'd rather have put the money that costs towards more batteries or cartos. I have batteries from last August still working.

 

[sailorman]

I think they have a "mega case," that holds 2 batteries and 4 cartridges. With one battery/cartridge in your hand, shouldn't that do the trick? I can definitely see the need for a wall wart and/or car charger though. I think the "Pro kit" has all that stuff included.

That's the hassle of a mini-cig and part of the reason I hate 'em.
At least it's not like 3 years ago, when all you could get was 180mah Joye 510 batts and atty/carts. A PCC charged one battery and held 1 cart and 1 atty. I had to carry 5 or 6 batteries for a day out.

The 78mm batts are 380mah, over twice the size of what I had to deal with, but 1/2 or less the size of a compact mod.

 

[ilibizzyili]

Thankyou so much for all your help... I think I will go with the volt, but out of curiousity what would you guys recommend as the best overall e-cig that I can still use my juice in (if I'm not dead set on a smaller one). THANKS AGAIN!

 

[NGIB]

What I'd probably recommend is an Apollo VTube (code: vtube30) which is a decent VV unit at a good price. Both of mine are the Mini size and they aren't to big to carry. Much of the success vs failure in vaping isn't the battery - it's the juice delivery system. Good cartomizers and/or good clearomizers both work well and deliver a consistent vape. I don't drip other than to test new juices as I like simplicity. For cartos, I use Resurrectors from CCV and for clearomizers I use CE3 and CE4+, both from Discountvapers.

Apollo VTube Kit

CE3 - 5 Pack

Vision eGo CE4+ Clearomizer DV Edition (LR)

Crystal Clear Vaping

 

[JENerationX]

I think they have a "mega case," that holds 2 batteries and 4 cartridges. With one battery/cartridge in your hand, shouldn't that do the trick?

Yep... they do. I forgot about that. I bought mine before they had it. I believe it still only charges one battery though. My fear was always that one would die before the charge finished on the other... and sometimes I was getting 2 1/2 charges instead of a full charge before the pcc needed charging. I was getting OCD about whether or not the charges would get me through a 12-16 hour day if I wasn't near another charge source. I'm just wired like that. I'm a "have a backup for the backup" type.

 

[elvapo]

If you are not interested in expensive VV mods, consider something like the Ego-C. TotallyWicked has them but you can get them other places cheaper. That is what I started with and I still use mine occasionally especially when I go out and have to "stealth vape" as where I live, vaping has not caught on... yet. It is a good and small unit that has served me well.