Advice or ideas wanted for mixing a new flavor

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Hello everyone!

I have been thinking of experimenting with a couple of flavors that I have. If you have any experience with these flavors, whether good or bad, please let me know.

My idea is to mix up something that is different. I usually go for fruity flavors, but I want something different to go to from time to time. Preferably tobacco inspired, but I'm open to suggestions.

Out of all of my flavors, here are the ones that I am willing to mix for this particular adventure:

Hangsen-
RY1 (for tobacco flavor)

Flavour Art-
Maxx Blend

TFA-
Milk chocolate
Honey
Graham Cracker (clear)
Banana Nut Bread
Caramel/Caramel Candy
RY4 Double

Lorann-
Banana cream

I do have ethyl maltol and sucralose just in case it's needed/recommended.

Though it's probably not important, I usually vape around 12 mg- 50/50 pg/vg. Percentages of any combination that you may have tried would be nice.

Thanks for reading!

 

[frosting]

I have Hangsen Ry1 on the way!

I bought RY4 double from Wizard so I do believe it is TFA.

I found that Ry4 double by itself( this is at about 7%) stands up okay. Both of my mixes of RY4 double have E.M. added to them. For a while I was trying to clone Tribeca by Halo. I really like the exhale of plain Ry4 with E.M.(3%) But it's missing depth, body for me... at least the depth and body of Tribeca I was going for. Not just for cloning this flavor, but other tobaccos as well AP aka Actyl Parazine is said by many DIYers to help bring a tobacco to the next level. I've found this so far to be true as well.

For my RY4(at 10%) with AP(at 1%) and EM(at 1%) it's like the AP brings other flavors out. It also adds its own nuances to the body and over-all flavor giving it a lot more depth. I like heavier flavor so you may want to start your RY4 at 4 or 5% and work up, however EM & AP percentages in this case were followed by the recipe in which I found. I plan on personally bumping up the AP to 2% when I make the next batch.


I've tried caramel as well but never as a stand-alone. It's a great mixer with things. I find that RY4 double however tends to have enough of its own caramel notes going on so I haven't added it to those mixes. For bakery vapes TFA caramel is a nice background note.


Oh and the flavor has changed quite a bit from steeping, it's become much much better over time.


Good luck! Can't help you so with the others.

 

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Thanks for the advice. I'll have to try AP one day. It's hard to believe that only 1 or 2 percent will make that much of a difference. It must be very strong.

I'll also try mixing the RY4 double with EM next time. When I mixed it initially I didn't have EM, and I liked it on its own.

Haven't tried Tribeca before so I can't attest to that.

So far I've tried mixing graham cracker, white chocolate and ry1. I dded a little EM to the mix as well and it came out OK. I'm still tweaking it, I guess.

 

[michaelsil1]

My idea is to mix up something that is different. I usually go for fruity flavors, but I want something different to go to from time to time. Preferably tobacco inspired, but I'm open to suggestions.

Best of both worlds Tobacco and Plum
Wera Garden Flavours - E-Flavour Smoke & Prunes WG 10 ml -

 

[MissAmerican]

Milk chocolate with banana nut bread plus some sweetener sounds good. Go lightly with the BNB, its a strong flavor and can overpower any other flavor that's mixed with it. I like my flavors strong though so maybe start with 8% milk chocolate and 2-3% banana nut. I love the caramel candy flavor, it goes great mixed into just about everything

 

[Blueser]

I've just about come to the conclusion that I don't care for caramel even slightly...

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Hi!
Not sure how much time you have for allowing your mix to "age" but I'm liking the RY4 Double at 1 ml in 20ml base of my 100%VG nic base but I made it months ago and only just now like it a lot!
(I don't use PG with the exception of flavors that are PG based.)

Other variations that I've tried and are good as well, I add a drop of Honey to the RY4 Double.
I've added both Honey and Caramel and Graham Clear to RY4 Double and they are good too! When I say drops, I mean just a few drops which, when I put them in my 1 ml syringe, they are hard to measure but equal less than .1 ml

Adding Maxx gives more of a tobacco note which is good too. (I prefer the Maxx by FlavourArt)

Back when I first started DIY'ing I was using way too high percentages which took months of trial and errors lol before I found that I prefer smaller percentages for the best tastes.

Good luck and keep us posted

 

[frosting]

So far I've tried mixing graham cracker, white chocolate and ry1. I dded a little EM to the mix as well and it came out OK. I'm still tweaking it, I guess.

There's also a gigantic ry4 thread around here as well... I'm pretty sure I saw quite a few recipes, tips about the flavor. If you haven't checked it out it's pretty cool. My only other tip that I don't think I mentioned is particularly with tobacco patience is key. They do need a bit of time to steep, sometimes even a month.... at least a week in many cases. Good Luck!

 

[dannyv45]

I see a lot of talk about AP in this thread and it's talked about as a flavor enhancer but it's not. It's a flavor molecule used to give a mix a nutty top note. This is an ingredient found in your nutty tobaccos such as your 555's, T5 and highway tobacco flavors.

Usual amount is 1 - 2%

Using 3 - 4% will give your mix a corn chip taste.

Any more and you start getting into the burnt popcorn taste range. So be careful with it.