Advise for purchase : The XHALER

[Soundwave]

Hello I am a current Analog smoker (Camel Wides) 1 pack a day. I bought a back of Health-E Cigarettes which have a nasty taste. So then I started searching online and found these forums and educated myself on what I would require to make a complete switch to digital and never smoke analog again.

I have decided to purchase The XHALER but I'm a little confused on the accessories.... I've heard throat hit is different between the 901 vs 501 atty... I want the 501 since it is more harsh but here is my confusion... does the 901 give any other benefit that I would maybe need after I purchase the whole kit?

I really don't want to buy everything just to realize that I didn't get one little part that is required to smoke certain juices I ordered or enough supplies.... So I come to you experts and fellow noobs that may have recently purchased The XHALER and switched with it... what bumps did you run into? I want to get it as right as possible the first time around and not make it a bad experience switching over.

 

[JollyRogers]

Are you gettin the complete kit or just the Xhaler? The kit comes with all the adapters and a 510 and a 901 atty. You can then try each one and decide, then purchase additional ones you may want.

I have used both, I prefer the 510. Others don't. The 510 is a little more harsh or better throat hit.
Oh and welcome to the forum!

 

[Lilacs212too]

I started with the 501, which I am still using. I have only tried one other ecig, and it was a 3.7 mod. I recently fell back on analogs (be sure you always have a wide selection of nic levels, I didn't have a higher strength and my stress levels were high, poof! 8 weeks of analog free out the window.. startin over again..) I may be partial to the 510, only because it's really all I know, but I do know that I was blown away with the first drag of it..

I am now thinking that an eGo would have been the better way to go, had I known then what I know now, I would have started off with one, but, all in all, the 510 has definitely done the job. But I am just a noob.. I am sure someone out there who's tried a bunch of them will have more info for you.

Best of luck!

 

[Soundwave]

I've heard so many good things about the 501 but what exactly makes it different? Size? Threading? I understand I will need carts... so whats on my mind is how often do you replace them? Are they disposable and trash after every fill? I personally like the throat hit and if its just a preference then I'm going with the 501 and not going to bother with the 901.

I also heard The XHALER requires high resistant/voltage attys which attys would you all recommend that are the best bang for the buck when you factor price and longevity together?

Also is the type of juice used critical with The XHALER? I am very much the type of guy that wants to make sure I take care of my investment and I don't want to screw it up because of ignorance.

Thanks for your information everyone. Truly amazing community!!!

 

[AJMoore]

I have two XHalers, like them so much I had to have one for back up. They come with two adapters plus you can buy inexpensive adapters everywhere for every combination. I started using the XHaler with 808 Cartomizers, then went to 901 and now I'm also using 510. I use the cartomizers for flavors (I mark them). They are disposable (eventually) so I don't mind funky flavors in them. The 901 and 510 attys I save for dripping (get a few drip tips from Drew, you won't be sorry). I modified the 510 attys per Phee303 videos. Some I just took the threads out (wow) and some the entire bridge. He has great videos on YouTube.

Anyway, you can try all possible combos and each one is better than the last. Good luck!

 

[JollyRogers]

I've heard so many good things about the 501 but what exactly makes it different? Size? Threading? I understand I will need carts... so whats on my mind is how often do you replace them? Are they disposable and trash after every fill? I personally like the throat hit and if its just a preference then I'm going with the 501 and not going to bother with the 901.
It's a 510. It has different threading, but the Xhaler kit comes with an adapter. It is a little smaller in length, but diameter is the same and some people even use the same carts with them both. I don't replace my carts, I refill them (actually I prefer to drip). If I need to I clean them and replace the filling material

I also heard The XHALER requires high resistant/voltage attys which attys would you all recommend that are the best bang for the buck when you factor price and longevity together?
You can use HV atties, but I don't. I used the 17670 baterry in it for 3.7V until the atty starts to lesson its vapor production, then I use the 2 tenergies to goto 6v on the dying atty to get more life. Can't recommend a certain 510 atty other then Joye, which several distributors sell.
Also is the type of juice used critical with The XHALER? I am very much the type of guy that wants to make sure I take care of my investment and I don't want to screw it up because of ignorance.
Juice is to personal of opinion, IMO LOL. As long as the atty stays wet (not flooded) it will be OK
Thanks for your information everyone. Truly amazing community!!!

With the questions you are asking, if you want a 510, you might be better considering a Ego/Tornado model??? Little more simple, though I think the Xhaler is a great PV and love(d) mine Funny thing is I traded my Xhaler for a Tornado kit!!!

 

[Soundwave]

Okay I gotta ask a personal question... How much do you guys pay for supplies and how often do you pay for them? What type and how many analogs were you smoking before?

 

[AJMoore]

You don't really want to know. It has slowed down but believe me, you don't want to know.

 

[the_antisheep]

Okay I gotta ask a personal question... How much do you guys pay for supplies and how often do you pay for them? What type and how many analogs were you smoking before?

1 - 1 1/3rd per day for 12 years.

30ml will last you a pretty long time (almost a month) if you don't breath it night and day. Up front the cost was steep ($150 or so), but later down the road, it's just $10 here, $10 there.

You can easily save money, but for many, this becomes more of a hobby, and that's where you see the money drain... Buying 20 devices and ordering every juice known to man gets expensive (like REAL expensive). If you're one of those people, then it's probably a wash from your old habit, but if not, you will save big.

 

[AngusATAT]

30ml will last you a pretty long time (almost a month) if you don't breath it night and day.

30ml last me about ten days.

Your mileage may vary.

 

[JollyRogers]

Since I started answering I will keep going I guess: I get my daily vape juice from Rocky Mountain Vapor 50ml for $15 right now. I also have some others that are more expensive, but are "fufu" flavors (read not tobacco) that I use on occasions or just to change it up some. I am a DV Absinthe lover....

I go through ~3ml of juice a day @18mg of nic. I vape often and a lot and normally drip, though occasionally use a cartomizer or a juice box mod for driving. I used to smoke 1 pack a day Mrlboro lights for 30 years. I use on average an atty every 2-6 weeks, depends on how long it lasts before I chuck it in a bin for future "use".

 

[the_antisheep]

30ml last me about ten days.

Your mileage may vary.

So even at that rate, you can see that 30ml @ $10-$15?

15x3 (month) = $45... Probably a heck of lot cheaper than your cigs.

 

[AngusATAT]

So even at that rate, you can see that 30ml @ $10-$15?

15x3 (month) = $45... Probably a heck of lot cheaper than your cigs.

Quite a bit cheaper... if you don't factor in all the stuff I buy that I technically don't need.

Before I quit, I spent about $125 a month on smokes, getting the cheapest generics I could find. Now I spend about $230 a month on ecig supplies. I'm still in the "hoarding" and "Oooh, new shiny toy!" mode. Although right now I am going on two months without buying anything. Saving up some money for a new HD TV.

 

[the_antisheep]

Quite a bit cheaper... if you don't factor in all the stuff I buy that I technically don't need.

Before I quit, I spent about $125 a month on smokes, getting the cheapest generics I could find. Now I spend about $230 a month on ecig supplies. I'm still in the "hoarding" and "Oooh, new shiny toy!" mode. Although right now I am going on two months without buying anything. Saving up some money for a new HD TV.

I never did the math before (probably because I didn't really want to), but since I'm a vaper now, I might as well break it down:

I used to buy in three packs to get a $4 discount. For the first time, I bought a single when I had just switched to vaping and found out that my cigs were $7 a pack!!!

So here's what I was spending (assuming 1 pack per day):

7x3 = 21 - 4 = 17 / 3 (for avg pack) =~5.67 x 30 (month) = $170

In reality I probably bought 8-10 packs per week, so you get the picture. $45 (max) vs $170 (min) and no long term oncologist plans (assuming I haven't already done massive damage that will land me there), the savings are unimaginable.

 

[bssage]

I am a noob with just short of two weeks under my belt. The best advice that was given to me was don't even worry about quitting. IMHO its just a natural evolution of vaping. I bought a cartoon prior to receiving my 901 kit. I had one analog that night and one puff the next morning and that's the last I have smoked. Still have the cartoon and lighters all laying around gathering dust.

Cost would be subjective because now I am trying all of these new things and flavors. IMHO you can make it as cheap or as expensive as you want. But I dont think you will ever be in the same ball park as analogs if nothing else just the cost savings from health beni's will cover the cost of the E-cig. One number I never see thrown out is the cost savings of time. How many time's did you take a break at work or home to go somewere to do nothing but have a cig fix. I think a value could be assigned to time lost smoking. You could also assign a cost to collateral damage from smoking Burnt holes in shirts furniture, in the car ect. IMHO If you never even plugged in the cost of analogs this would still be cost effective.

Almost no waste at all. You puff when you want. No half smoked, broken cig's laying about.

I could go on and on but my advice is throw your hat in the ring and enjoy the ride. No pressure just do what you want. Its kind of a unique as its truly a pressure free way to quit.

The biggest issue I have is that I no longer have an excuse to sneak away to my smoking/computer cave in the basement. Now I just sit in the living room on my netbook vaping away watching tv.

I used to enjoy the "me time".

 

[ScatRD]

As a noob I don't have the long term depth of experiance but I can tell you I spent more per week smoking than I am now per month vaping!

 

[Soundwave]

Okay so one last request before I go ahead and make the jump and its a big one...

I don't have anything yet. I want to buy a complete kit that will last one month with the calculations you have presented shouldn't be to hard (I'm not particular on taste I eat anything and enjoy most everything taste and smell).

I'm not going to beat around the bush... I would like someone to hold my hand in the big jump (not that I'm going to condemn you if something is wrong). I just would feel better and less stressed if someone with experience knew the ropes and said "Here is what I would do if I was you to last one month and only wanted a 510 atty"

I am pretty sure the the Xhaler is what I want since it seems to be high voltage and produces a good throat hit from what fellow ecf members have said. If you guys and gals could look at this as a "Wish list" if you were me with the knowledge of what you have now I would appreciate it.

 

[Soundwave]

and just a 510 atty I mean just that model... if I need multiple ones to be sure I will last through a month then suggest it.

Model and site to pick it up at would be above and beyond awesome!

Thank you so much,
Roy

 

[the_antisheep]

They can correct me if I'm wrong, but the XHaler looks like a mod, meaning you are going to spend a lot more than I did to pick this up. You also would want a few more attys than just one, as high voltage tends to put some strain on the attys. You know the cost of the XHaler, and if I were to pick up that, I'd be likely to pick up at least 2 batteries (I don't know what the battery life is on it, but once your tapped, you are going to want a backup on the charger). I would likely go with the LR attys and maybe get 3 of them (just in case they burn up)? I don't know if they covered this in this thread yet, but isn't it a 901/801 unit, not a 510? I believe you'd need an adapter to make it 510 compatible.

A lot of this is talking out my ...., because I have not dived into mods and purchased, I'm using an Ego, and if I was going to do it over again, I'd probably do the same thing, but maybe with a Riva instead (if I was patient enough to wait for shipping). Hopefully someone more experienced with the mod side of things chimes in here.

 

[the_antisheep]

They can correct me if I'm wrong, but the XHaler looks like a mod, meaning you are going to spend a lot more than I did to pick this up. You also would want a few more attys than just one, as high voltage tends to put some strain on the attys. You know the cost of the XHaler, and if I were to pick up that, I'd be likely to pick up at least 2 batteries (I don't know what the battery life is on it, but once your tapped, you are going to want a backup on the charger). I would likely go with the LR attys and maybe get 3 of them (just in case they burn up)? I don't know if they covered this in this thread yet, but isn't it a 901/801 unit, not a 510? I believe you'd need an adapter to make it 510 compatible.

A lot of this is talking out my ...., because I have not dived into mods and purchased, I'm using an Ego, and if I was going to do it over again, I'd probably do the same thing, but maybe with a Riva instead (if I was patient enough to wait for shipping). Hopefully someone more experienced with the mod side of things chimes in here.

My bad... Everything I was saying is covered here: The Complete XHaler Kit assuming that is the way you go. I'd grab a few extra attys though, especially if you are doing high voltage.

My liquid suggestions would be (based on my taste):

Tasty Vapor

and

Fried Apple, 24mg << maybe 2 or 3? These are smaller bottles (10ml)

I vape 24mg

If you use the guide based on the previous suggestions, if you can total 90mg with your liquid purchases, you should be safe for a month.