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I'm experiencing the same thing. It seems that if I keep the atty very wet, almost flooded, the metal taste is less, and almost gone. I am also on my 2nd AFS atty, and both did this. I've used them at both 3.7 and 6 volts. 3.7 volts provides less of a metal taste. I've also noticed that the same juice tastes different in different attys. IMHO, juice from a 510's seem to taste better than a 910. I've only had my GGT and AFS for about 3 weeks, so I may still be learning the tricks.
Pt, this taste dont come from AFS because I had never this taste and because there is no way to come from it. I am also sure that dont come from the outside of the atty. Maybe the batch of your TW atties was strange. But to be totally sure, please clean with water and soap the AFS in case there are some liquid traces inside.
Also, please smoke this atty without AFS and see the diference. If you see a diference then the atty is not feeding well because the atty special hole is dirty from liquid. So blow or suck to the atty hole and smoke with AFS again and tell me your results
Georgea please do the same as I said to pt and tell me your results too.
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I too have had the metallic taste from one or two atties, and I am sure it was the atties, not the actual AFS.
This is the only down-side to being in on a new invention right at the start - along with all the benefits, there are usually one or two small niggles to work out at the beginning - quality and cost of the atties being the main ones in this instance. Despite this - I still wouldn't go back to dripping or carts even if you paid me to!
As always, we're working hard behind the scenes to provide continual improvements for GG customers and we will have a new supply of AFS atties including HV ones coming through in the not too distant future.
This is the only down-side to being in on a new invention right at the start - along with all the benefits, there are usually one or two small niggles to work out at the beginning - quality and cost of the atties being the main ones in this instance. Despite this - I still wouldn't go back to dripping or carts even if you paid me to!
As always, we're working hard behind the scenes to provide continual improvements for GG customers and we will have a new supply of AFS atties including HV ones coming through in the not too distant future.
Pt, this taste dont come from AFS because I had never this taste and because there is no way to come from it. I am also sure that dont come from the outside of the atty. Maybe the batch of your TW atties was strange. But to be totally sure, please clean with water and soap the AFS in case there are some liquid traces inside.
Also, please smoke this atty without AFS and see the diference. If you see a diference then the atty is not feeding well because the atty special hole is dirty from liquid. So blow or suck to the atty hole and smoke with AFS again and tell me your results
Georgea please do the same as I said to pt and tell me your results too.
Imeo,
I just tried it and made a discovery. When I use only the atty without the AFS, I can still taste a slight metalic taste. But then I put the same flavor juice in another 901 atty that is chrome plated (I think from a DSE 905), and there is no metal taste. If I almost flood the TW atty, the metal taste is gone. I don't have to do this with the other atty to eliminate the metal taste. So, it looks like the lasered hole is not allowing enough juice to get into the atty, or the casing of the atty is affecting the taste of the juice. I say the casing of the atty because, I put my tongue on the outside of the atty and it tastes exactly like the metalic flavor I'm getting when I vape with or without the AFS.
My conclusion is that it is definately the atty and not the GG or AFS. Maybe we need to experiment with other attys. I would love to try this other chrome atty I have in the AFS, but I have no way to laser the proper hole. I hope this information helps.
Please don't worry George, as I said, we have been working on a better solution and we will have a new supply of AFS atties including HV ones coming through in the not too distant future.
Thanks Lisa. I can't wait!!!
I love my GGT and AFS, and once we have these new attys, it will be perfect.Its an atty problem for sure and I will check if the same happens with my new atomizers. I dont think that they will have the same problem like those from TW but I want to be sure. I will inform you on Thursday. If I see anything wrong I will fix it immediately, dont worry at all
i emptied the afs tonight and cleaned it. I vaped the metal tasting atty by itself and it had the same, bad taste. pulled out my first afs atty that i recently cleaned and it fired up....i vaped it without the afs on and it worked and tasted good.
I put the clean atty in the AFS and it taste good so far.
Like Imeo said, the bad taste must be from the atty. I will clean the bad one tonight and see if it still has the metal taste later.
I put the clean atty in the AFS and it taste good so far.
Like Imeo said, the bad taste must be from the atty. I will clean the bad one tonight and see if it still has the metal taste later.
Hi all ! ...I dont think that the bad taste is from the AFS ..I am using it at last 2 months and never had that experience before..Its the attie that makes the difference..Also I should say that is very important to make a right assembly of the AFS with the atties ..Some mm can cause a bad performance..
Its an atty problem for sure and I will check if the same happens with my new atomizers. I dont think that they will have the same problem like those from TW but I want to be sure. I will inform you on Thursday. If I see anything wrong I will fix it immediately, dont worry at all
Thanks Imeo. We'll be looking forward to your update on Thursday. As ggero said, the assembly of the AFS and atty is important. I made sure I assembled it as you said where the top of the atty just touches the top o-ring, but does not go inside. I still think it has something to do with the material used in the atty's body. As I mentioned above, just out of curiousity, I put my tongue on the side of the atty and it tastes exactly like the metal taste I'm getting when I vape. Kind of a dirty, metalic taste. Sounds crazy, but it reveiled something, I hope.
What attys are you using at 6V? And have you tried them along with the AFS with ecopure or some other VG based ejuice?
I am wondering if my standard 510 attys will go HV ok with the VG based ejuice so was waiting for the new GGTS and new HV atty.
The HV 901 atties which fit into the AFS are not yet ready ...I can tell you for sure that I have used standard 901 atty with AFS and VG e-liquid and works great ..The PG is a little bit easy but VG is ok too!
The problem with VG is that it is just a bit thick to go through the AFS laser hole. You can try to thin it down a bit with some Vodka or purified water. I was using a 10% VG diluted (TW sells something called aqueous Glycerin) to help with flooding. When your juice is TOO thin it will tend to allow too much into the atty. It's a bit of a fine tuning kinda thing.. Trial and error.
So advanced AFSers Couple of questions as I'm currently waiting for my kit
How long do your atties last now that you have the hang of the system?
And would someone be willing to make a new thread with proper usage instructions in the first post? One kind of gets lost between all the videos between different models etc.
Cheerio
Couple of questions as I'm currently waiting for my kit How long do your atties last now that you have the hang of the system?
And would someone be willing to make a new thread with proper usage instructions in the first post? One kind of gets lost between all the videos between different models etc.
Cheerio
I agree... The information does get hard to find. There are links on the Cloud9vaping site to the videos with the info you will need.
My atomizers last me about two to three weeks now that I have the hang of the AFS.
I would not be without it! Dripping is a PITA and I hate it now. I use a back up device with alternate flavors and hate it each time I have to pull the mouthpiece off and take the top off the bottle and carefully drop two drops on the bridge. All this while trying to keep my eyes on the road... The AFS is really the driving and dripping device.
Hope you get the hang of it and you can always PM me if you need help. I have plenty of tricks up my sleeve to solve most issues with the AFS...
My atomizers last me about two to three weeks now that I have the hang of the AFS.
I would not be without it! Dripping is a PITA and I hate it now. I use a back up device with alternate flavors and hate it each time I have to pull the mouthpiece off and take the top off the bottle and carefully drop two drops on the bridge. All this while trying to keep my eyes on the road... The AFS is really the driving and dripping device.
Hope you get the hang of it and you can always PM me if you need help. I have plenty of tricks up my sleeve to solve most issues with the AFS...
I'd previously cut my liquid with VG so was expecting problems over the viscosity of my liquid which was thicker after the cut. Thankfully, I haven't encountered this but I do bare it in mind.
So advanced AFSers
How long do your atties last now that you have the hang of the system?
And would someone be willing to make a new thread with proper usage instructions in the first post? One kind of gets lost between all the videos between different models etc.
Cheerio
As Vapn says, Imeo's vids are linked on my site and I also send out a Tips & Tricks card with every AFS I sell so that should help.
As Vaughanie says, viscosity of the liquid is the key and this can also change with each atomiser you use.
Other tip is to have plenty of spare AFS atties because you really won't want to go back to dripping once you get the hang of it. I tend to get about a week or slightly more now from each AFS atty at 6v. When we get HV AFS atties, this should be even more reliable too.
I am still using my first attie (almost 2 months!!) but then I only use it at 3.7 V
Can't wait for the HV atties
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