AFS v2 Question

[jsaveker]

Firstly allow me to say what a wonderful piece of engineering!

Now for my question...

Upon first filling the AFS the first 3-4 drags were bliss... the flavour of my liquid was amazing. However the subsequent drags had a burnt taste to them as if there is not enough liquid getting to the atty... whenever I drip I make sure to keep the atty soaking wet.

I figure the answer to this issue is in the control ring... what should I be doing. I tried to close the control ring and take several drags without pressing the button though this does not appear to work....

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

KRs,

Jim.

 

[Stormynights]

Firstly allow me to say what a wonderful piece of engineering!

Now for my question...

Upon first filling the AFS the first 3-4 drags were bliss... the flavour of my liquid was amazing. However the subsequent drags had a burnt taste to them as if there is not enough liquid getting to the atty... whenever I drip I make sure to keep the atty soaking wet.

I figure the answer to this issue is in the control ring... what should I be doing. I tried to close the control ring and take several drags without pressing the button though this does not appear to work....

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

KRs,

Jim.

99% of the time mine works perfect with no effort then out of the blue it is acting up. I do dry inhales and fiddle with the control ring for a while then it is perfect again. It is happening less and less so it must be user error. I wish I could help more but my advice is just press on.

 

[jsaveker]

Yes I opened the top of the AFS and closed it again making sure the control ring was closed whilst I did this. I then set the control ring to about 50% covering the holes and now when I inhale it bubbles and the vapor tastes amazing!!!!

I love this thing... just working through the learning curve

Thanks for the swift responce!

KRs,

Jim.

 

[Wafflestomper]

I learned that different juices and atties have minds of their own as well. There is a sweet spot on the control ring that varies with each juice/atty.

After a while it's easy to find that sweet spot, you will just instinctively learn where it needs to be.

Good luck!

 

[keon718nyc]

I learned that different juices and atties have minds of their own as well. There is a sweet spot on the control ring that varies with each juice/atty.

After a while it's easy to find that sweet spot, you will just instinctively learn where it needs to be.

Good luck!

You hit it right on the money Waffle!!! Great advice! I think that this is the best way to put it~

 

[vapn]

Yep, every atty has been a little different for me as well.... Once you get it dialed in it works amazing. That was the huge improvement over the last version was the ability to control the juice flow with an adjustable draw system. This one works great compared to V1 when you got a dry atty you had to take several primer puffs without hitting the button. Sometimes I would be blue in the face before getting the atty wet again. It wasn't until we started using the V2 that I realized that it was getting a vacuum built up inside the tank and not allowing juice to go through the laser hole on the V1 atty. So now when I need juice I just loosen up the cap and let some air into the system. The V2 now you can unscrew the top cap slightly and then tighten it back down to force juice into the atty if need be..... Be careful cause you can flood it real quick if you aren't careful. It takes practice for sure.

 

[emonty]

Right Vapen, the pressure in the tank makes a big difference, it has to be right, then it works 100%

 

[imeothanasis]

if you dont screw totally the CR but only until it reach the o-ring then the primary inhales are very easy because very little air and very big amount of juice comes to the atty. Try it and dont unscrew the cap Keith

 

[Stormynights]

Maybe the pressure in the tank or something like that has to get adjusted through use to get just right. I don't really know what happens but a few minutes after I fill my tank everything works perfectly.

 

[emonty]

I agree Stormy, it has to do with the pressure also!

 

[vapn]

Stormy, That is because you have juice in the atty and there is no pressure built up behind the juice in the tank. As you pull juice from the tank a negative pressure builds and holds onto the juice. I think we need some sort of relief valve system maybe spring loaded that would allow pressure relief so juice will not stop flowing ever.

 

[imeothanasis]

Stormy, That is because you have juice in the atty and there is no pressure built up behind the juice in the tank. As you pull juice from the tank a negative pressure builds and holds onto the juice. I think we need some sort of relief valve system maybe spring loaded that would allow pressure relief so juice will not stop flowing ever.

Vapn, I dont know if you totally close the o-ring to make primary inhales. They are really difficult. But if you just close the CR in a way that only touch the o-ring you will see the difference. Try inhaling by putting CR in a tight close position and then release it a little. You will hear juice coming to atomizer. Its very easy to find the position, only try 3-4 times, thats it

 

[vapn]

I think you missed my point imeo... an air inlet valve that lets air into the tank automatically when its needed. I am thinking of something like a ball bearing with a spring holding it in place until the vacuum pressure builds up enough to compress the spring and let air into the tank.

 

[imeothanasis]

I think you missed my point imeo... an air inlet valve that lets air into the tank automatically when its needed. I am thinking of something like a ball bearing with a spring holding it in place until the vacuum pressure builds up enough to compress the spring and let air into the tank.

Ah, I see your point Keith. ok, this valve will not work because no preassure is build up inside tank. The reason is that tank comunicates with atomizer and atomizer with the liquid collector tank and the collector tank with 8 holes. That means that tank has air inside, coming from the 8 holes. Thats the reason that tank leaks inside the collector tank and if we dont close the CR when we dont inhale then the liquid comes out.

 

[clyde2801]

My trick in using the afs with an atty was to close the CR, hold the mod upside down and dab the mouthpiece on a napkin to blot out the flooded juice from the atty.

With cartos, this isn't a problem.

 

[emonty]

My trick in using the afs with an atty was to close the CR, hold the mod upside down and dab the mouthpiece on a napkin to blot out the flooded juice from the atty.

With cartos, this isn't a problem.

you held the Greek Goddess upside down????? poor girl ;-)

 

[clyde2801]

you held the Greek Goddess upside down????? poor girl ;-)

I could SO go somewhere with this, but choose not to. For now.

 

[vapn]

Ah, I see your point Keith. ok, this valve will not work because no preassure is build up inside tank. The reason is that tank comunicates with atomizer and atomizer with the liquid collector tank and the collector tank with 8 holes. That means that tank has air inside, coming from the 8 holes. Thats the reason that tank leaks inside the collector tank and if we dont close the CR when we dont inhale then the liquid comes out.

My point is when I am vaping and I get a burnt taste and can't get juice to flow then I need to let air into the tank. This is called vapor lock. A tiny little valve would let this air in and I could keep on vaping without taking those inhales without the button OR closing the CR to get juice. I know what you mean about the air getting into the tank when its sitting resting but I don't tend to let it rest much. hehehehhe.... I was thinking about a tiny ball bearing inside a tube with a spring holding it tight against the outside so juice could not come out but when the vacuum pressure builds up to compress the spring it lets in a tiny bit of air. Juice flows again no stopping.

 

[imeothanasis]

My point is when I am vaping and I get a burnt taste and can't get juice to flow then I need to let air into the tank. This is called vapor lock. A tiny little valve would let this air in and I could keep on vaping without taking those inhales without the button OR closing the CR to get juice. I know what you mean about the air getting into the tank when its sitting resting but I don't tend to let it rest much. hehehehhe.... I was thinking about a tiny ball bearing inside a tube with a spring holding it tight against the outside so juice could not come out but when the vacuum pressure builds up to compress the spring it lets in a tiny bit of air. Juice flows again no stopping.

Keith, there is no pressure inside tank so this valve will never open . But even if we had a preassure and a valve there it had to be very sensitive to open, also it had to be on the top of AFS so we would avoid leakage (but GG had to be in straight position all the time) and so sensitive valve would leak

 

[jsaveker]

Just to clarify the solution to my problem as kindly posted by imeothanasis was to close the control ring but not completely... i.e. only to the point where it just barely touches the o-ring then to take one short drag... too much and it floods. but get it right and your back in business.

Having used this for 3-4 days now it's like second nature and I have not since had any burnt taste or flooding issues.

What a wonderful piece of kit... now as it's my b'day on the 15th I just have to try and stop myself buying the GGTS specific AFS too