AGA-T Questions

[frnkj74]

I have some questions about the AGA-T, I’m a long time vaper first time rba user. I was gifted an AGA-T & I’m trying to find out what’s the best gauge wire & mesh # to use. The juice ratio that I like to use is 40% pg / 60% vg, the mod that I will be using it on is my v2 Provari (primarily) or my dual 18650 Shan mod. Now since that ratio has more vg in it I’ve heard that 320 mesh would be best to use as a wick, is that correct or should I use a higher mesh #? Now on the coil I’m used to using carto tanks & my preferred ohm carto to use is a 2.5 – 3 ohm carto because I usually vape at 5 volts because I like the good solid throat hit that it gives me & I like a warm vape also. But I’ve seen a few vids on rba’s & the person in the vid is only doing anywhere from 3-5 wraps & ohming out at .9 – 1.5 ohms. Is there a difference between cartos & rba’s when it comes to the coil? If not what gauge wire would give me the 2.5 – 3 ohms that I desire & about how many wraps would I have to do? I’ve also seen twisted kanthol wire, what’s the purpose of that? I’ve been a vaper for 2 yrs & 7 ½ months & I figure it’s time for me to take my next step into my journey to vaping with rebuilding & with the right knowledge & material I hope to make it a successful next step, thank you in advance to any & all people that chime in with any help & have a blessed day & Vape On

 

[Buzzsaw46]

Most people tend to move towards a lower ohm coil on a genesis then they were using with cartos. I have done it also, I think the big thing is the SS mesh tends to act like a heat sink and with higher ohm coils it takes a bit for the coil and wick to warm up. I have just started playing with the lower ohm setups, right now I have one at .8ohms, one at 1.1ohms, and one at 1.6. The .8, and 1.1ohm are on mechanical mods, and the 1.6 ohm is on a Provari.

I would recommend getting some 30 and 32ga coil wire. That way you can try a coil in the 2-2.5 range with the 32ga and then try a coil in the 1.4-1.6 range with the 30ga. For mesh I have used 400 and 500 and from what I've read there is no problem wicking thicker liquids with either.

Good luck on your journey.

 

[Kemosabe]

ive heard that #300 is better than 400 for high VG blends, but when it comes to 500, all bets are off and VG wicks very well. i dont go any higher than 35% VG typically and ive had no problems with 400 or 500.

32g kanthal gives me a 2Ω coil most of the time. approx 5 wraps. ive also got 28g and that comes in closer to 1Ω. my vote is to get some 32g. you can toss a few more wraps on there if you want it higher than 2Ω. and if you want to experiment with a bit lower ohms, you can double-up the 32 to lower its resistance. twisting it is not necessary however. you get more surface area touching the wick by just laying the wires beside each other.

you ask if the coil in cartos is different to the coil in RBAs. yes and no. cartos typically use nichrome, but thats not your main difference. carto coils are smaller than most RBA coils, so youll notice they heat up faster. youll need a bit more heat and patience while taking an RBA drag. the benefit of the SS wick is that you can just keep cranking the voltage up to your desired level, without worrying if youll scorch any filler material. of course the flavor is cleaner too. and theres more "punch". i think youll really like your setup once you get going seeing how you like warmer vapes. i like warm vapes myself and RBAs, especially genesis-style RBAs, can deliver quite the heat punch.

edit: regarding wire gauge, its worth noting that the thicker gauge wire (lower #s) is easier to work with. so if you can deal with lower ohms, go for it. maybe settle on a happy medium at 30g.

 

[michliu]

OP, my juices are about the same as yours 40/60 PG/VG. 500 mesh works well with any juice, even 100% VG. When I vape my Aga-T on a non-mechanical PV like yours, I use 30g Kanthal and 4-5 wraps will get you about 1.5-1.6 ohms, depending on your wick diameter. I find the thicker 30g to be a bit more forgiving than the thinner 32g. You'll need more wraps and more chance of hot spots with the 32g, but it works fine. I have not twisted, but people do this to lower the resistance of their wire.

 

[Rule62]

I make all my own juice, and most are around 70PG/30VG to 60PG/40VG. I use either 400 or 500 mesh. I don't see much difference in either. On my vv/vw devices, like the Provari, Sig ZMax, Vamo, I use 30ga kanthal, and like the resistance to be above 1.2Ω, up to maybe 1.7Ω. On mechanicals, I use 28ga, and like the resistance about .9Ω.

 

[Satava]

I'm using 90% Wal-Mart VG (Juice is as thick as motor oil) with a solid rolled #500SS wick, it was 1.5"x3.25" before rolling.

I'd agree with the above posters that 30/32AWG are the best for the Pro-Vari as the Ohmage needs to be above 1.X for it to fire.

a 5 wrap of 32 will yield about 2.0ohms and a 5 wrap of 30 will yield about 1.4ohms. Both fire on my Vamo.

Best of luck and if you can hunt down eHuman's blog, he has some great info for making coils/wicks.

Actually- Heres the links.

Part 1- http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ly-opportunities-hone-your-skills-part-1.html
Part 2- http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ly-opportunities-hone-your-skills-part-2.html

 

[itsonlysmellz]

OP if you're using the provari and want to run lower ohms, use the cigarette paper method to season the wick and coil otherwise you might get errors. I've gotten great results with a 3/4 wrap of 32 gauge kanthal on a 325 wick and run a consistent 0.9ohm. the vapor production is fantastic and you dont get as much juice spray that you usually get waiting for the coil to heat up. basically just take a bit of cigarette paper and wrap it around your wick, then wrap your coil. give it a nice burn and wait for the paper to burn away. Now you're left with a nice seasoned coil, and your provari won't throw any errors. Super simple solution to wrap nice low ohm coils on the provari

 

[Rule62]

OP if you're using the provari and want to run lower ohms, use the cigarette paper method to season the wick and coil otherwise you might get errors. I've gotten great results with a 3/4 wrap of 32 gauge kanthal on a 325 wick and run a consistent 0.9ohm. the vapor production is fantastic and you dont get as much juice spray that you usually get waiting for the coil to heat up. basically just take a bit of cigarette paper and wrap it around your wick, then wrap your coil. give it a nice burn and wait for the paper to burn away. Now you're left with a nice seasoned coil, and your provari won't throw any errors. Super simple solution to wrap nice low ohm coils on the provari

The reason I don't run coils less than 1.2Ω coils or above on a Provari, is because below 1.2Ω, the 3.5 amp cut out will be reached well before the 15.0 watt limit is reached. A .9Ω coil at about 11 watts will be at 3.5 amps, with 3.15 volts. I often like to vape at 13 watts or more, depending on the juice. 13 watts isn't possible with a .9Ω coil on a Provari. The 3.5 amp limit will be reached first.

 

[Thompson]

If you get 32g you can always braid it & it becomes close to 28g

Faxed in on the Mojo Wire

 

[frnkj74]

Good luck on your journey.

Thank you Buzzsaw46

 

[frnkj74]

I'm using 90% Wal-Mart VG (Juice is as thick as motor oil) with a solid rolled #500SS wick, it was 1.5"x3.25" before rolling.

I'd agree with the above posters that 30/32AWG are the best for the Pro-Vari as the Ohmage needs to be above 1.X for it to fire.

a 5 wrap of 32 will yield about 2.0ohms and a 5 wrap of 30 will yield about 1.4ohms. Both fire on my Vamo.

Best of luck and if you can hunt down eHuman's blog, he has some great info for making coils/wicks.

Actually- Heres the links.

Part 1- http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ly-opportunities-hone-your-skills-part-1.html
Part 2- http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ly-opportunities-hone-your-skills-part-2.html

Thanks for the links Satava

 

[frnkj74]

OP if you're using the provari and want to run lower ohms, use the cigarette paper method to season the wick and coil otherwise you might get errors. I've gotten great results with a 3/4 wrap of 32 gauge kanthal on a 325 wick and run a consistent 0.9ohm. the vapor production is fantastic and you dont get as much juice spray that you usually get waiting for the coil to heat up. basically just take a bit of cigarette paper and wrap it around your wick, then wrap your coil. give it a nice burn and wait for the paper to burn away. Now you're left with a nice seasoned coil, and your provari won't throw any errors. Super simple solution to wrap nice low ohm coils on the provari

So I shouldn't worry about trying to reach my desired ohm preference of 2.5 - 3 ohms? 0.9 ohms doesn't sound like it would give a good solid throat hit..is there a video review of this method showing how to do it?

 

[vapdivrr]

So I shouldn't worry about trying to reach my desired ohm preference of 2.5 - 3 ohms? 0.9 ohms doesn't sound like it would give a good solid throat hit..is there a video review of this method showing how to do it?

like rule mentioned, with the provari it is better to do a coil in the 1.2 range, although the provari can handle a coil as low as 0.8, the .08 coil will only produce about 11 watts before reaching the provaris amp limit of 3.5. with a 1.2 to 1.4 coil on the provari you can obtain more wattage, thus more TH. you will be alot happier with a 1.2 coil then a 3 ohm coil, because at 3 ohms you will need to produce like 5 volts, and at 5 volts some juices might not taste as good, also i believe that ss mesh wicks will impart a metalic taste at higher voltages. 30g wire, 3/4 wrap should do it depending on your wick diameter.

 

[itsonlysmellz]

Yup, but I have hit the amp limit at 0.9 without causing any errors to show. Just go with 1.2 ohm, for most people that's the perfect vape. Here's a chart from Provape if you're too lazy to calculate volts into watts, or if your not an EE: http://www.provape.com/v/images/ProVariV1vsV2.pdf

like vapdivr said, higher voltage will compromise flavor.

 

[JustGonzo]

does any one have any advice on good ways to modding the AGA-T2 ?