Ahlusion LLC Chat Thread

[PennyLynn]

I think chocolate flavors, and how they're perceived, can be tricky. Ages ago, I tried a juice called Dipped Tangerine, from a place called StratOMyst, and it was so delicious I couldn't stop using it. Then, I lost the ability to enjoy it. I've since gotten similar flavors from AHL, but none of them ever sang to me. I believe it's more a function of your own personal perception than a criticism of the juice...and my tastebuds are very flighty. Something delicious can turn to 'nuthin' for me very quickly, which is really, REALLY frustrating.
And that's why I can often be found vaping straight-up mint. Sometimes that's the only thing I can taste.

 

[Lilag]

So I have strawberries and cream , cha yen cardimom, and wipe out honeydew comming . I've never had ahlusions before are they good foob or should I let them steep

 

[chanelvaps]

Yeah, Protanks with burned wicks.

I think ALL clearomizers mute flavor, and so do Kayfuns, though to a lesser extent. But everything's so dependent on the person, the liquid, the power, and probably the temperature in the room and atmospheric pressure, that I don't even get into device discussions anymore, unless I'm forced.

I find that some liquids are better suited to Kayfuns than others. For me, very strong flavors sometimes need a little muting. But there are liquids that have a lot of components, some of which are experienced just around the fuzzy edges of a strong central flavor (or TWO strong central flavors!), and those liquids I can only appreciate fully in a small-chamber atomizer -- a quality 510 preferably, or a rebuildable with restricted airflow. That's me. I'm from Venus and Mann is from Mars, or something.

First ever I have heard someone else say this but I feel I get more flavor from an RBA that does not have much airflow. AND at lower watts like 12-13. Not the norm I know because everybody keeps telling me to go up to massive watts and airflow. I do get more vapor but def not more flavor

 

[YePsTeR]

Just checking in and saying that Lemon Vallina Cake is still in my top 5. It's just soooo refreshing to me! YeP, Autumn Mist has always been #2.

 

[tyleris12]

So I have strawberries and cream , cha yen cardimom, and wipe out honeydew comming . I've never had ahlusions before are they good foob or should I let them steep

Welcome to the Ahlusion group @Lilag I can't help you with those flavors, but I'm sure someone will come along that can. I think the best advice is to try them FOOB & if they're not to your liking, put them aside & retry them every week, until you are happy with them. Everyone here has such different steeping needs, on all different flavors. Really hope you enjoy them!!

 

[LisaR]

So I have strawberries and cream , cha yen cardimom, and wipe out honeydew comming . I've never had ahlusions before are they good foob or should I let them steep

I already gave you my opinions on your other thread, but welcome to the Ahlusion chat thread!

 

[LouisLeBeau]

Anyone here yet tried Pure Apple that can compare it to Autumn Mist?

Beautiful day for a motorcycle ride, so I rode up to Ahl HQ. I tasted the Pure Apple and Autumn Mist side by side, just for you. Well, and me too.
Autumn Mist as we all know is a really nice flavor, Warm ripe pear and apple, and I get a little caramel from it as well. But the apple is only part of the play.

Pure Apple really IS pure apple. I tend to like my apples very crisp so I stick to green apples or HoneyCrisp and the like which tend to be a little more acidic and a little lighter on flavor than the mushier more meal-y type that also tend to be sweeter and more.. warm or apple-y. Not sure how else to put it. So for me, it's a texture thing more than flavor that drives my choice of apples.

Well, pure apple is that warmer, more apple-y kind of apple flavor, which is GREAT because texture doesn't play a role. Side by side with the Autumn mist, I liked it more than Autumn Mist.

I went on a tear too while I was there and jumped into a bunch of flavors I hadn't tried yet and wrote down my impressions. Pure apple, Apple Berry Splash, Lemon Berry Kiss, Dew Drop, Lemon Lime Breeze, Peachy Affair, King Pin, Key Lime Pie (not released), Rumchacha, and Alpha Centauri. They were all quite good, except King Pin which was just TOO strong for me. I was surprised at how much I liked Rumchacha and Alpha Centauri. Not boozy at all to me. The Alpha Centauri reminded me a lot of Peachy Criminal, just less tobacco-ness but the peach is very good.

I was also surprised to find out that anything with Breeze in the name (Lemon Lime Breeze) does NOT contain any breeze, mint or menthol unless you specifically ask for it. I normally don't like breeze, but it was really good in the Lemon Lime Breeze with breeze.

 

[chanelvaps]

Key Lime Pie (not released),

 

[chanelvaps]

I went on a tear too while I was there and jumped into a bunch of flavors I hadn't tried yet

Did you happen to see something called Moulin Rouge?

 

[clnire]

Key Lime Pie? Waaa hooooo!

 

[LouisLeBeau]

Did you happen to see something called Moulin Rouge?

No, I should have asked now that you mention it. Drats.

Key Lime Pie may never be released. It was a personal bottle of the girl (OldTimers disease, forgot her name) behind the counter. The shop was slow so she and Drew entertained me. Apparently, there are a LOT of flavors that have been bottled but never released. Wlad must not be completely happy with them. The Key Lime pie was just a soft creamy lime to me, I didn't really get Graham Cracker crust out of it, and it didn't have the mouth watering tang that I associate with a good KLP. He might still be working on it?

 

[y cherry y]

First ever I have heard someone else say this but I feel I get more flavor from an RBA that does not have much airflow. AND at lower watts like 12-13. Not the norm I know because everybody keeps telling me to go up to massive watts and airflow. I do get more vapor but def not more flavor

I swore I'd never get into this again, but you're exactly right. It is objective fact that we perceive flavor by mixing the thing we're tasting with air in our mouths. That's how taste buds work. People with wide open airflow who have to inhale directly to the lung are only getting flavor on the exhale, which means only from the vapor that remains after you've absorbed much of it. For anyone who doesn't believe me, try it now. Put the tip in your mouth with lips sealed and inhale without opening your mouth at all. You'll get no flavor without opening your mouth and drawing some air also; all you get is the sensation of the vapor. You will begin to taste the flavor if you open your mouth after the draw.

Watch a pipe smoker. They have evolved the perfect technique for maximum flavor. Draw your own conclusions.

And the more restricted the airflow, and the harder you draw, the more you're getting vapor right off the coil (versus vapor mixed with a lot of air from a wide-open airflow). I also don't think (but have no evidence to prove other than my subjective experience) that extreme heat (high wattage, low resistance) increases perceived flavor. And in fact, I think subohmers often favor simple, very sweet flavors because the primary flavor element survives the heat well.

I am in no way criticizing anyone's preference in vaping style. I am describing what I have experienced. I'm thrilled that so many people enjoy subohm tanks and big, wide-open drippers. Good for them! But I think there is great confusion of power/clouds and flavor. High wattage and wider airflow don't increase flavor. People may like them better, but there's less flavor, not more -- unless there are vapers with taste buds behind their uvulas.

 

[y cherry y]

No, I should have asked now that you mention it. Drats.

Key Lime Pie may never be released. It was a personal bottle of the girl (OldTimers disease, forgot her name) behind the counter. The shop was slow so she and Drew entertained me. Apparently, there are a LOT of flavors that have been bottled but never released. Wlad must not be completely happy with them. The Key Lime pie was just a soft creamy lime to me, I didn't really get Graham Cracker crust out of it, and it didn't have the mouth watering tang that I associate with a good KLP. He might still be working on it?

You should have called! I would have met you there. I tried that pie a couple months ago, and I felt the same way, which I put down to my disdain for all things fresh. Shawn is probably the employee you're thinking of, old timer.

 

[LouisLeBeau]

Nope, young little cutie pie, Miss. Cats eyes glasses. She was SO nice to me, and sharing her personal bottles. I could KICK myself for not remembering her name. Totally out of character for me. I try my hardest not to forget the names of young little lovelies like that.

TOTALLY agree with what you said, based on ONE example (hardly scientific). I tried the Lemon Lime Breeze on a 306 tester, and it was all lemon/lime with a hint of breeze. Then I put my driptip on her Subtank Mini with wide open draw, which ONLY allowed for a direct lung hit, and all I got was the Breeze. Major difference.

Wish I HAD called. Didn't think you'd be open for a trip on a Friday afternoon. I promise not to repeat the mistake.

Edit: I slept on it, and this morning, I believe the young lady's name was Rachel. Don't ask me how this stuff happens. To quote Abe Simpson "It'll happen to you someday". Oh no, wait, that was "I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too."

 

[chanelvaps]

I swore I'd never get into this again, but you're exactly right. It is objective fact that we perceive flavor by mixing the thing we're tasting with air in our mouths. That's how taste buds work. People with wide open airflow who have to inhale directly to the lung are only getting flavor on the exhale, which means only from the vapor that remains after you've absorbed much of it. For anyone who doesn't believe me, try it now. Put the tip in your mouth with lips sealed and inhale without opening your mouth at all. You'll get no flavor without opening your mouth and drawing some air also; all you get is the sensation of the vapor. You will begin to taste the flavor if you open your mouth after the draw.

Watch a pipe smoker. They have evolved the perfect technique for maximum flavor. Draw your own conclusions.

And the more restricted the airflow, and the harder you draw, the more you're getting vapor right off the coil (versus vapor mixed with a lot of air from a wide-open airflow). I also don't think (but have no evidence to prove other than my subjective experience) that extreme heat (high wattage, low resistance) increases perceived flavor. And in fact, I think subohmers often favor simple, very sweet flavors because the primary flavor element survives the heat well.

I am in no way criticizing anyone's preference in vaping style. I am describing what I have experienced. I'm thrilled that so many people enjoy subohm tanks and big, wide-open drippers. Good for them! But I think there is great confusion of power/clouds and flavor. High wattage and wider airflow don't increase flavor. People may like them better, but there's less flavor, not more -- unless there are vapers with taste buds behind their uvulas.

Thanks for that precise explanation. Now I will have some verbage to throw out there at the pompous punks that work the counters of the B&M near my house that keep telling me otherwise

 

[I'mnotZak]

I revisited Cafe Au Lait today after letting it steep for a few weeks. WOW, glad that I did. I am loving the coffee, vanilla, and cream blend. Very smooth and not too rich. This is a real creamy coffee vape!

 

[LouisLeBeau]

You should have called! I would have met you there. I tried that pie a couple months ago, and I felt the same way, which I put down to my disdain for all things fresh. Shawn is probably the employee you're thinking of, old timer.

Haha! When you said old timer, I thought you were talking about the clerk! That's why I thought it must be someone else. "twas indeed Shawn.
I resemble that! I'm not as young as I once was, but I'm as young as I'll EVER be.

 

[EleanorR]

I revisited Cafe Au Lait today after letting it steep for a few weeks. WOW, glad that I did. I am loving the coffee, vanilla, and cream blend. Very smooth and not too rich. This is a real creamy coffee vape!

I love it too! I used to swear by Ahl's Light French Roast (which would still satisfy in a pinch), but somebody here (Apptig? LisaR?) kept going on and on and ON about Cafe au Lait, so I finally tried it . . . . ZOMG, perfection!

 

[LisaR]

I love it too! I used to swear by Ahl's Light French Roast (which would still satisfy in a pinch), but somebody here (Apptig? LisaR?) kept going on and on and ON about Cafe au Lait, so I finally tried it . . . . ZOMG, perfection!

Nope, wasn't me, although I've certainly been known to be an enabler ! I don't really do coffee vapes since I tried a couple when I first started vaping and they all tasted like coffee breath to me. Or maybe just coffee that had been on the burner too long. If I were to try one again, I would go with your recommendation, El, and get some Boba Coffee!

 

[chanelvaps]

and get some Boba Coffee!

FAB stuff......