Air Force Surgeon General lays ground work for AF ban

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The Surgeon General sent this letter out today. the one thing that concerns me about the letter is this, "Advertisements claim electronic cigarettes are a healthier way to smoke but one sample tested by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) contained diethylene glycol—a toxic chemical used in antifreeze".

the problem with this is two-fold:

1: Air Force personnel and top officials, with the release of letter, will be sucked into the rhetoric and propaganda vomited by the FDA

2: The fact that the Surgeon General would submit this letter indicates that he has not done any type of research on the subject and i feel this letter is laying the ground work for banning e-cigs in the AF

this is very disheartening and i have been a bit depressed about it all day. if the AF bans e-cigs, i will end up dying of lung cancer for sure. :cry:
 

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Seems this is just amending Air Force Instruction (AFI) 40-102, tobacco Use in the Air Force, to include E Cigarettes. This is essentially applying existing restrictions on tobacco Cigarettes to E Cigarettes. It’s unfortunate that the AF Surgeon General (or whoever sent the order down) is merely running with the FDA company line; however, not surprising.
 

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Seems this is just amending Air Force Instruction (AFI) 40-102, tobacco Use in the Air Force, to include E Cigarettes. This is essentially applying existing restrictions on Tobacco Cigarettes to E Cigarettes. It’s unfortunate that the AF Surgeon General (or whoever sent the order down) is merely running with the FDA company line; however, not surprising.


i understand what the intent is. basically it is stating that i have to vape outside and in a designated tobacco use area.

what i dont like is the statement about FDA findings and the fact that the Surgeon General would jump on the bandwagon like a L.A. Lakers fan from Yonkers, N.Y.
 

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The Surgeon General sent this letter out today. the one thing that concerns me about the letter is this, "Advertisements claim electronic cigarettes are a healthier way to smoke but one sample tested by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) contained diethylene glycol—a toxic chemical used in antifreeze".


The really sad part about all of this is that if one tests their local drinking water they would find that 9 times out of 10 it also contains trace amounts of diethylene glycol. Of course the FDA considers those trace amounts to be acceptable in drinking water but they are going to blow it all out of proportion when it comes to PV liquid because they don't want smokers switching over. So let's use the scare tatics and get everyone terrified that the makers of e-juice and sellers of e-cigs are trying to poison you.
 

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The really sad part about all of this is that if one tests their local drinking water they would find that 9 times out of 10 it also contains trace amounts of diethylene glycol. Of course the FDA considers those trace amounts to be acceptable in drinking water but they are going to blow it all out of proportion when it comes to PV liquid because they don't want smokers switching over. So let's use the scare tatics and get everyone terrified that the makers of e-juice and sellers of e-cigs are trying to poison you.

They also don't seem to care about chemical pesticides and herbicides that get sprayed everywhere outside.

That FDA study is quoted all over the place as proof that ecigs are dangerous. Even though we have numerous rebutals that show it's BS, it still has legs it seems.
 

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Dear Lt. Col. Kulund:

Air Force Surgeon General Charles B. Green has named you as his point of contact regarding Electronic Cigarettes. Would you please discuss the following information with Dr. Green:

Dr. Green appears to be relying upon the FDA’s July 2009 press release, rather than the scientific evidence (i.e., the actual lab results) in forming policy. Of several hundred brands of cigarettes, the FDA chose to test the products of only the two companies that had filed a lawsuit against the agency. Thus the FDA had a vested interest in making the products appear to be harmful.

Regarding the whole cartridge (i.e., the non-vaporized liquid), the FDA’s actual lab report states: “Tobacco specific nitrosamines and tobacco specific impurities were detected in both products at very low levels. DEG was identified in one cartridge.” http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/ScienceResearch/UCM173250.pdf

E-Cigarette Toxicity

Characterizing diethylene glycol (DEG) as “antifreeze” in its press release was misleading and inflammatory on the part of the FDA. Actually, a common use for diethylene glycol (DEG) is as a humectant, to keep tobacco moist. The nicotine in the cartridges was extracted from tobacco. The FDA was apparently unconcerned about any danger to human health associated with a 1% concentration of DEG, because they did not impose a recall on Smoking Everywhere cartridges.

In the 7 years that e-cigarettes have been in use world-wide and 2 years in the U.S., there have been no reports of users being poisoned by electronic cigarettes and no reports of any serious adverse events.

In October 2008, Dr. Murray Laugesen of Health New Zealand tested the Ruyan brand of e-cigarette. His report concludes, “Ruyan® e-cigarette is designed to be a safe alternative to smoking. The various test results confirm this is the case. It is very safe relative to cigarettes, and also safe in absolute terms on all measurements we have applied.” http://www.healthnz.co.nz/RuyanCartridgeReport30-Oct-08.pdf

My organization, the Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association (CASAA.org), has gathered a collection of lab reports on several brands of e-cigarettes. CASAA.org

E-Cigarettes Are Not Cancer-causing

You will not find the phrase “cancer-causing” anywhere in the FDA’s publications on electronic cigarettes. The reason for this is that the same tobacco specific nitrosamines (TSNAs) identified in some e-cigarette cartridges are also found in FDA-approved nicotine patches and nicotine gum, in roughly equivalent quantities (8 ng). [See “Comment 1” on page 7 of the Health New Zealand report cited above.] This quantity is too small to be considered “cancer-causing,” which is why the FDA nicotine products do not carry a health warning on their packages about cancer.

A personal aside: I find it despicable that the FDA chose to mislead the public by withholding the extremely pertinent quantitative information about TSNAs in e-cigarette cartridges.

NJOY commissioned a study to determine the presence of TSNAs in its vapor. The results of the study were further verified by an independent research lab. The report found that only one of the 4 TSNAs present in the liquid is present in the vapor form. That particular TSNA, NAT, was shown to be non-toxic and non-carcinogenic by Hoffman, et al. The report concludes, “Based on the above, there is no evidence that carcinogenic TSNAs are present in the aerosol from NJOY electronic cigarettes. Thus, it is my conclusion that the TSNAs do not pose a health risk to the users of the electronic cigarettes distributed by NJOY.”
http://www.casaa.org/files/Study_TSNAs_in_NJOY_Vapor.pdf

E-Cigarette Vapor versus Tobacco Smoke

Even though smoking accounts for only 80% of all tobacco use, it is responsible for 98% of the tobacco-related disease and death. The reason for this is simple: smoke. Smoke is created by the process of combustion. Thus tobacco smoke contains tar, carbon monoxide, particles of ash, and thousands of chemical compounds created by burning the tobacco and paper. These are the substances that cause the lung disease, heart disease, and cancers associated with inhaling smoke. E-cigarette vapor does not contain any of these harmful substances, because nothing is set on fire and burned.

In the August 2010 issue of Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention, researchers from Virginia Commonwealth University reported on a clinical trial comparing health effects of subjects’ own brand of cigarettes to two brands of electronic cigarettes and to sham smoking. Both brands of electronic cigarette significantly decreased tobacco abstinence symptom ratings. Like sham smoking, the electronic cigarettes had no significant impact on plasma nicotine levels, heart rate, or exhaled carbon monoxide. http://www.casaa.org/files/Virgiania Commonwealth University Study.pdf

Appropriate Package Warnings

The products do contain nicotine, and appropriate warnings about nicotine use can be found on packages. The NJOY cartridge package, for example, states that the products “are intended for use by those of legal smoking age and older, not by nonsmokers or children, nursing or pregnant women, or persons with or at risk of heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, or taking medication for depression or asthma… Please keep NJOY products out of reach of children and pets; ingestion of certain pieces can cause a choking hazard and ingestion of the non-vaporized concentrated ingredients in the cartridges can be poisonous.” The package also states on the side “Warning: Nicotine is addictive and habit-forming.”

E-Cigarette Intended Use

The NJOY label reads “NJOY products are not a smoking cessation product and have not been tested as such.” The label also states, “If you smoke tobacco products, you are encouraged to stop.” Electronic cigarette products are intended to be a replacement for smoking tobacco products. The purpose of supplying various levels of nicotine is to meet the nicotine requirements of users who want to avoid debilitating nicotine abstinence symptoms, as well as the harmful physical effects of inhaling smoke.

E-Cigarette Effect On Human Health

Switching to any smoke-free form of nicotine has positive effects on health. Gartner, et al found “There was little difference in health-adjusted life expectancy between smokers who quit all tobacco and smokers who switch to snus.” Assessment of Swedish snus for tobacco harm reduct... [Lancet. 2007] - PubMed result

We estimate that there are at least a half million former smokers in the U.S. who became smoke-free by using an electronic cigarette. Surveys of electronic cigarette consumers give us a good idea of how safe and effective these products are. In one survey, 63% of respondents were using an electronic cigarette as a complete replacement for all their smoked cigarettes, “Positive effects reported with ecigarettes included their usefulness to quit smoking, and the benefits of abstinence from smoking (less coughing, improved breathing, better physical fitness).” BioMed Central | Full text | Electronic cigarettes: a survey of users In another survey, 79% were former smokers thanks to electronic cigarettes. Over 90% of respondents stated their health had improved. http://tobaccoharmreduction.org/wpapers/011v1.pdf

Exposing Former Smokers to Smoke

If 90% of e-cigarette users are experiencing health improvements, it defies all logic to insist that the exhaled vapor could harm bystanders – especially in view of the fact that no harmful substances have been found in the vapor. Ecigarette mist harmless, inhaled or exhaled

If Dr. Green believes that second-hand smoke is dangerous, why is he sending former smokers to the smoking area whenever they want to use the product that allows them to remain smoke-free? Surely people who are using Nicorette gum, a Nicotrol inhaler, or Swedish snus to remain smoke-free are not banished to the smoking section to use their products.

He is also discouraging continuing smokers from switching to a much less harmful alternative. Many people began using an e-cigarette to avoid being sent outside but found, to their surprise, that their interest in smoking real cigarettes had spontaneously disappeared. They had no intention of quitting. It just happened.

Summary

There is a growing body of scientific evidence showing that switching from smoking to using an e-cigarette results in improved health and does not endanger the health of either the user or bystanders.

There is no scientific evidence supporting the contention that e-cigarettes present any danger to the health of users or bystanders. (A press release does not constitute scientific evidence.)

I leave you with this thought from Dr. Michael Siegel, Professor at Boston University School of Public Health:

“We in tobacco control should be trying to do everything we can to help smokers quit. Thus, we should be embracing electronic cigarettes rather than putting obstacles in the way of people using this product. The best way to reduce secondhand smoke exposure is to reduce cigarette smoking. Encouraging smokers to quit is the best thing we can do to reduce secondhand smoke, and the use of e-cigarettes to quit smoking seems to be a very effective and popular strategy.” The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary

Please contact me if you need any further information.
 

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wow Ok....Umm wasnt expecting that I expected to speak to a secretary, but I just got off the phone with him.(that number there was apparently his desk) Might not be as bad we thought, he wants to see these other studies and said I made some very interesting points.
So at least he is willing to listen to the other side, and said he was willing to channel new information up to the right people.

His correct email should be daniel.kulund@pentagon.af.mil
 

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Dear Lt. Col. Kulund:

Air Force Surgeon General Charles B. Green has named you as his point of contact regarding Electronic Cigarettes. Would you please discuss the following information with Dr. Green:

Dr. Green appears to be relying upon the FDA’s July 2009 press release, rather than the scientific evidence (i.e., the actual lab results) in forming policy. Of several hundred brands of cigarettes, the FDA chose to test the products of only the two companies that had filed a lawsuit against the agency. Thus the FDA had a vested interest in making the products appear to be harmful.

Regarding the whole cartridge (i.e., the non-vaporized liquid), the FDA’s actual lab report states: “Tobacco specific nitrosamines and tobacco specific impurities were detected in both products at very low levels. DEG was identified in one cartridge.” http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/ScienceResearch/UCM173250.pdf

E-Cigarette Toxicity

Characterizing diethylene glycol (DEG) as “antifreeze” in its press release was misleading and inflammatory on the part of the FDA. Actually, a common use for diethylene glycol (DEG) is as a humectant, to keep tobacco moist. The nicotine in the cartridges was extracted from tobacco. The FDA was apparently unconcerned about any danger to human health associated with a 1% concentration of DEG, because they did not impose a recall on Smoking Everywhere cartridges.

In the 7 years that e-cigarettes have been in use world-wide and 2 years in the U.S., there have been no reports of users being poisoned by electronic cigarettes and no reports of any serious adverse events.

In October 2008, Dr. Murray Laugesen of Health New Zealand tested the Ruyan brand of e-cigarette. His report concludes, “Ruyan® e-cigarette is designed to be a safe alternative to smoking. The various test results confirm this is the case. It is very safe relative to cigarettes, and also safe in absolute terms on all measurements we have applied.” http://www.healthnz.co.nz/RuyanCartridgeReport30-Oct-08.pdf

My organization, the Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association (CASAA.org), has gathered a collection of lab reports on several brands of e-cigarettes. CASAA.org

E-Cigarettes Are Not Cancer-causing

You will not find the phrase “cancer-causing” anywhere in the FDA’s publications on electronic cigarettes. The reason for this is that the same tobacco specific nitrosamines (TSNAs) identified in some e-cigarette cartridges are also found in FDA-approved nicotine patches and nicotine gum, in roughly equivalent quantities (8 ng). [See “Comment 1” on page 7 of the Health New Zealand report cited above.] This quantity is too small to be considered “cancer-causing,” which is why the FDA nicotine products do not carry a health warning on their packages about cancer.

A personal aside: I find it despicable that the FDA chose to mislead the public by withholding the extremely pertinent quantitative information about TSNAs in e-cigarette cartridges.

NJOY commissioned a study to determine the presence of TSNAs in its vapor. The results of the study were further verified by an independent research lab. The report found that only one of the 4 TSNAs present in the liquid is present in the vapor form. That particular TSNA, NAT, was shown to be non-toxic and non-carcinogenic by Hoffman, et al. The report concludes, “Based on the above, there is no evidence that carcinogenic TSNAs are present in the aerosol from NJOY electronic cigarettes. Thus, it is my conclusion that the TSNAs do not pose a health risk to the users of the electronic cigarettes distributed by NJOY.”
http://www.casaa.org/files/Study_TSNAs_in_NJOY_Vapor.pdf

E-Cigarette Vapor versus Tobacco Smoke

Even though smoking accounts for only 80% of all tobacco use, it is responsible for 98% of the tobacco-related disease and death. The reason for this is simple: smoke. Smoke is created by the process of combustion. Thus tobacco smoke contains tar, carbon monoxide, particles of ash, and thousands of chemical compounds created by burning the tobacco and paper. These are the substances that cause the lung disease, heart disease, and cancers associated with inhaling smoke. E-cigarette vapor does not contain any of these harmful substances, because nothing is set on fire and burned.

In the August 2010 issue of Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention, researchers from Virginia Commonwealth University reported on a clinical trial comparing health effects of subjects’ own brand of cigarettes to two brands of electronic cigarettes and to sham smoking. Both brands of electronic cigarette significantly decreased tobacco abstinence symptom ratings. Like sham smoking, the electronic cigarettes had no significant impact on plasma nicotine levels, heart rate, or exhaled carbon monoxide. http://www.casaa.org/files/Virgiania Commonwealth University Study.pdf

Appropriate Package Warnings

The products do contain nicotine, and appropriate warnings about nicotine use can be found on packages. The NJOY cartridge package, for example, states that the products “are intended for use by those of legal smoking age and older, not by nonsmokers or children, nursing or pregnant women, or persons with or at risk of heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, or taking medication for depression or asthma… Please keep NJOY products out of reach of children and pets; ingestion of certain pieces can cause a choking hazard and ingestion of the non-vaporized concentrated ingredients in the cartridges can be poisonous.” The package also states on the side “Warning: Nicotine is addictive and habit-forming.”

E-Cigarette Intended Use

The NJOY label reads “NJOY products are not a smoking cessation product and have not been tested as such.” The label also states, “If you smoke tobacco products, you are encouraged to stop.” Electronic cigarette products are intended to be a replacement for smoking tobacco products. The purpose of supplying various levels of nicotine is to meet the nicotine requirements of users who want to avoid debilitating nicotine abstinence symptoms, as well as the harmful physical effects of inhaling smoke.

E-Cigarette Effect On Human Health

Switching to any smoke-free form of nicotine has positive effects on health. Gartner, et al found “There was little difference in health-adjusted life expectancy between smokers who quit all tobacco and smokers who switch to snus.” Assessment of Swedish snus for tobacco harm reduct... [Lancet. 2007] - PubMed result

We estimate that there are at least a half million former smokers in the U.S. who became smoke-free by using an electronic cigarette. Surveys of electronic cigarette consumers give us a good idea of how safe and effective these products are. In one survey, 63% of respondents were using an electronic cigarette as a complete replacement for all their smoked cigarettes, “Positive effects reported with ecigarettes included their usefulness to quit smoking, and the benefits of abstinence from smoking (less coughing, improved breathing, better physical fitness).” BioMed Central | Full text | Electronic cigarettes: a survey of users In another survey, 79% were former smokers thanks to electronic cigarettes. Over 90% of respondents stated their health had improved. http://tobaccoharmreduction.org/wpapers/011v1.pdf

Exposing Former Smokers to Smoke

If 90% of e-cigarette users are experiencing health improvements, it defies all logic to insist that the exhaled vapor could harm bystanders – especially in view of the fact that no harmful substances have been found in the vapor. Ecigarette mist harmless, inhaled or exhaled

If Dr. Green believes that second-hand smoke is dangerous, why is he sending former smokers to the smoking area whenever they want to use the product that allows them to remain smoke-free? Surely people who are using Nicorette gum, a Nicotrol inhaler, or Swedish snus to remain smoke-free are not banished to the smoking section to use their products.

He is also discouraging continuing smokers from switching to a much less harmful alternative. Many people began using an e-cigarette to avoid being sent outside but found, to their surprise, that their interest in smoking real cigarettes had spontaneously disappeared. They had no intention of quitting. It just happened.

Summary

There is a growing body of scientific evidence showing that switching from smoking to using an e-cigarette results in improved health and does not endanger the health of either the user or bystanders.

There is no scientific evidence supporting the contention that e-cigarettes present any danger to the health of users or bystanders. (A press release does not constitute scientific evidence.)

I leave you with this thought from Dr. Michael Siegel, Professor at Boston University School of Public Health:

“We in tobacco control should be trying to do everything we can to help smokers quit. Thus, we should be embracing electronic cigarettes rather than putting obstacles in the way of people using this product. The best way to reduce secondhand smoke exposure is to reduce cigarette smoking. Encouraging smokers to quit is the best thing we can do to reduce secondhand smoke, and the use of e-cigarettes to quit smoking seems to be a very effective and popular strategy.” The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary

Please contact me if you need any further information.

wow Ok....Umm wasnt expecting that I expected to speak to a secretary, but I just got off the phone with him.(that number there was apparently his desk) Might not be as bad we thought, he wants to see these other studies and said I made some very interesting points.
So at least he is willing to listen to the other side, and said he was willing to channel new information up to the right people.

His correct email should be daniel.kulund@pentagon.af.mil


:thumbs:Bravo to you both!:thumbs:Way to work it ladies:thumbs:
 

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AF (Air Force) surgeon general issues warning about safety of electronic cigarettes.
AF surgeon general issues warning about safety of electronic cigarettes.

I have been trying to leave a comment and keep getting an error message that I have included HTML in my comment. Can anyone tell me what character or combo of characters is being interpreted as HTML?

Diethylene glycol is a chemical used to keep tobacco moist. The amount FDA found is well below the Minimal Risk Level. An electronic cigarette cartridge contains no more tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs) than an FDA-approved nicotine patch--about 8 nanograms. In contrast a pack of Marlboros contains a whopping 110,000 nanograms of TSNAs.
The FDA is wrong, dead wrong, to mislead the public into believing e-cigarettes are harmful. Countless people have continued inhaling deadly tobacco smoke because of the FDA's disinformation campaign.
Surveys of consumers show that 79% have completely replaced tobacco smoking with using an e-cigarette and 90% report improved health. Dr. Green should track down all the facts and adjust policy accordingly
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Can anyone tell me what character or combo of characters is being interpreted as HTML?

Elaine,

Get rid off double hyphen from patch--about and you're good to go.
It’s a well-known “bug that’s not a bug” with versions of Firefox going back many years (assumed you're using FireFox).
 
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In the August 2010 issue of Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention, researchers from Virginia Commonwealth University reported on a clinical trial comparing health effects of subjects’ own brand of cigarettes to two brands of electronic cigarettes and to sham smoking. Both brands of electronic cigarette significantly decreased tobacco abstinence symptom ratings. Like sham smoking, the electronic cigarettes had no significant impact on plasma nicotine levels, heart rate, or exhaled carbon monoxide.

Can you explain what the bolded means?
 
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