All my used carto's are TOAST !!

[Katmar]

I have been feeling no angst. It is my opinion that if the FDA got hold of some of these kr808 carts, they would be deemed unsafe.
It needs to be handled.

 

[Katya]

Do Greencig cartomizers need an adapter or can they go directly on a kr8 battery? If so, what kind of adapter?

I understand also that Greencig doesn't sell blanks, only prefilled cartos, and their flavor selection is limited. Are they easily refillable? If so, do they work with any standard e-liquid from any reputable vendor?

Another question: does GreenSmoke use a kr8 battery? Are their cartomizers refillable? GreenSmoke was my first PV and I liked the batteries and vapor production, I just didn't care for their flavor selection. How are their cartos in regard to the burning/melting polyfill?

I would greatly appreciate any information you can provide. I like the 2-piece e-cig, but I'm concerned enough to entertain other, safer options while awaiting a solution to the current problem.

 

[Nilius]

25 pages and tons of pictures later... WE GET IT. There is a concern with burnt cartomizers.

Many of you screamed that the owner of "the happy family" closed the thread in his sub-forum. He said "the topic has been hashed to death" and I now agree with him.

If you are bumping to keep the thread at the top of the forum, then say that. A simple *bump* is fine, stop repeating the same thing over and over again.

Yes, I am a fan of "the happy family".
Yes, I am concerned about vaping burnt cartomizers.
Yes, I think that every KR808 noob should see this thread.

 

[Katmar]

Do Greencig cartomizers need an adapter or can they go directly on a kr8 battery? If so, what kind of adapter?

I understand also that Greencig doesn't sell blanks, only prefilled cartos, and their flavor selection is limited. Are they easily refillable? If so, do they work with any standard e-liquid from any reputable vendor?

Another question: does GreenSmoke use a kr8 battery? Are their cartomizers refillable? GreenSmoke was my first PV and I liked the batteries and vapor production, I just didn't care for their flavor selection. How are their cartos in regard to the burning/melting polyfill?

I would greatly appreciate any information you can provide. I like the 2-piece e-cig, but I'm concerned enough to entertain other, safer options while awaiting a solution to the current problem.

Greencig carts DO fit on a kr808 battery, which is very cool, since we all probably have a fair supply. They do NOT burn, even when you vape them dry!!! You can refill them with any liquid you want.

They are not easy to refill at first. There is a video in the Nhaler sub forum about refilling. Once you learn, it's simple. Most folks in the Nhaler forum will help you out.

I really don't know anything about Greensmoke, though. Sorry.

I think it is a wise decision to switch until this problem is fixed.

 

[Kelemvor]

wrong Nilius, as long as the KR8 is promoted as the buy and forget e-cig thats soooo sweet working and so much greater than all others, there is no way that people shut up.

i bet you will not stop praising it, do you ?

the problem exists for a long time now, and its not talked to death, it got buried everytime it came up in the past.

and concerned people don't want it happen again.

its on the suppliers to make pressure on the manufacturers to change things now.

[edit] the greencig work on the auto batteries i have out of the box. on the manual is the adpater needed or you punch/drill a little 1.5mm hole in the G from the greencig logo

 

[Katmar]

25 pages and tons of pictures later... WE GET IT. There is a concern with burnt cartomizers.

Many of you screamed that the owner of "the happy family" closed the thread in his sub-forum. He said "the topic has been hashed to death" and I now agree with him.

If you are bumping to keep the thread at the top of the forum, then say that. A simple *bump* is fine, stop repeating the same thing over and over again.

Yes, I am a fan of "the happy family".
Yes, I am concerned about vaping burnt cartomizers.
Yes, I think that every KR808 noob should see this thread.

Apparently, you don't get it.This topic will never be hashed to death until it is resolved. Feel free to not read this thread if it bothers you.

 

[unit40]

Thanks Nilius.

 

[Kimmy]

I'm just going to say it, many of you are just throwing ecigs under the bus completely right now. After all, this is a PUBLIC forum, which can be viewed by the entire WORLD, including the FDA. And don't for a second think they are not reading this! Do you think they really care if it's only kr8 cartomizers? That is gibberish to them. They will just make this whole thing out to be another new bogus news title, "ECIGS ARE DANGEROUS", and more states will begin jumping on the BANwagon.

When you were smoking REAL cigarettes...did inhaling ammonia (toilet cleaner), methanol (rocket fuel), lighter fluid, methane (sewer gas), cadmium (batteries), arsenic (POISON), stearic acid (candle wax), carbon monoxide to name a few bother you???? Cmon people, it is called the safer alternative, NOT 100% SAFE!!!!!!

 

[Kelemvor]

imo the suppliers had lots of time to fix the issue, but they decided to let it get buried down, who is really to blame now ?

 

[Katmar]

I'm just going to say it, many of you are just throwing ecigs under the bus completely right now. After all, this is a PUBLIC forum, which can be viewed by the entire WORLD, including the FDA. And don't for a second think they are not reading this! Do you think they really care if it's only kr8 cartomizers? That is gibberish to them. They will just make this whole thing out to be another new bogus news title, "ECIGS ARE DANGEROUS", and more states will begin jumping on the BANwagon.

When you were smoking REAL cigarettes...did inhaling ammonia (toilet cleaner), methanol (rocket fuel), lighter fluid, methane (sewer gas), cadmium (batteries), arsenic (POISON), stearic acid (candle wax), carbon monoxide to name a few bother you???? Cmon people, it is called the safer alternative, NOT 100% SAFE!!!!!!

Not much safer if we are inhaling synthetic fibers. They are just as full of toxins. And this would ALL be moot if it were addressed a year ago.

This thread has made recommendations for safer ecigs, so we are NOT throwing them under the bus. And I will continue to make those recommendations.

 

[Katmar]

imo the suppliers had lots of time to fix the issue, but they decided to let it get buried down, who is really to blame now ?

Exactly. And I quit smoking burning things to avoid those hazards.
I don't want them in my ecigs. And I KNOW they don't have to be.

 

[Kimmy]

Not much safer if we are inhaling synthetic fibers. They are just as full of toxins. And this would ALL be moot if it were addressed a year ago.

This thread has made recommendations for safer ecigs, so we are NOT throwing them under the bus. And I will continue to make those recommendations.

What you set out to do may not be what you end up accomplishing. You intentions are good, yes, but others may not perceive it that way, and just use it as more ammo.

Yes, they should be SAFER than they already are, but this thread has turned into a .....fest, addressing the same thing over and over, not one person here can fix this issue, or proclaim whether or not is actually dangerous. Essentially, IN MY OPINION, this thread has become utterly useless. The suppliers have OBVIOUSLY heard your concerns, and are MOST LIKELY addressing it. If you are so worried about this, it is your life, your choice, to either quit ecigs all together, start smoking again, or wait for this technology to develop more so and come back to it in a year or so.

But hey, I am just as entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours.

 

[Scottbee]

Not much safer if we are inhaling synthetic fibers. They are just as full of toxins.

Now you have gone from being a concerned consumer who had some "worries" about safety... to an alarmist who is officially FLAT WRONG.

Nicely done. By being overzealous and not backing up your concerns with facts and data, you stepped over the edge and began talking out your .....

And that gives you just about 0 credibility.

The highly scientific term for that process is called: FAIL.

 

[Kelemvor]

why should we stop vaping, because the cartos are flawed ? Kimmy, i have lots of alternatives to a KR8, even a KR8 battery with an 3-piece adapter of my choice or anything other i put on my mods.

they heard the concerns already months ago ? they did nothing at all, other than lowering the resistance to run this cartos even hotter and add some glycerin for more clouds. great improvements, really.

it seems we wasn't loud enough last time.

 

[Katmar]

What you set out to do may not be what you end up accomplishing. You intentions are good, yes, but others may not perceive it that way, and just use it as more ammo.

Yes, they should be SAFER than they already are, but this thread has turned into a .....fest, addressing the same thing over and over, not one person here can fix this issue, or proclaim whether or not is actually dangerous. Essentially, IN MY OPINION, this thread has become utterly useless. The suppliers have OBVIOUSLY heard your concerns, and are MOST LIKELY addressing it. If you are so worried about this, it is your life, your choice, to either quit ecigs all together, start smoking again, or wait for this technology to develop more so and come back to it in a year or so.

But hey, I am just as entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours.

Kimmy, you are absolutely entitiled to your opinion. I have no problem with that.

If the suppliers HAVE heard our complaints, then I would expect to see some type of statement in their forums. I HAVEN'T seen that yet.

I HAVE read that inhaling ANY type of synthetic fiber can be very dangerous. Did you read what the firemen had to say about that? I don't think it is necessary to know the exact make up of the fiber, only that it is synthetic.

It is my hope that by keeping this issue alive, it WILL be addressed and remedied by the suppliers and manufacturers.

If you think this thread has become useless, you can simply stop reading it. I don't read things that I find useless. Why should you?

I do not intend to go back to smoking NOR to give up on ecigs. I choose a safer ecig. But I cannot just walk away from an issue that CAN be fixed and watch other people use this product unaware of the problems. Nor will I.

 

[Katmar]

Now you have gone from being a concerned consumer who had some "worries" about safety... to an alarmist who is officially FLAT WRONG.

Nicely done. By being overzealous and not backing up your concerns with facts and data, you stepped over the edge and began talking out your .....

And that gives you just about 0 credibility.
And I am not sure how you can call me FLAT WRONG, at this point, unless you have learned something new in the last 24 hours.
The highly scientific term for that process is called: FAIL.

Not sure how I am an alarmist, Scott. I believe it is up to the suppliers or manufacturers to do the lab work. I only know what I have read. I may have 0 credibility with you. I can live with that.
I still respect you.
Since I have stopped inhaling the kr808 carts, my breathing is much better and my gasto symptoms are slowly resolving. I am still vaping my 510

Not sure how I can be FLAT WRONG unless you learned something in the last 24 hours.

 

[spaky]

Now you have gone from being a concerned consumer who had some "worries" about safety... to an alarmist who is officially FLAT WRONG.

Nicely done. By being overzealous and not backing up your concerns with facts and data, you stepped over the edge and began talking out your .....

And that gives you just about 0 credibility.

The highly scientific term for that process is called: FAIL.

By saying Katmar is flat wrong without backing it up with any facts or data aren't you talking out your .... just as much?

The fact is that we don't know how dangerous those burning fibers are. They could be not that harmful when used like they are, or they could be almost as bad if not worse than cigarettes, we just don't know. This is clearly a problem that needs to be fixed.

 

[Kimmy]

Kimmy, you are absolutely entitiled to your opinion. I have no problem with that.

If the suppliers HAVE heard our complaints, then I would expect to see some type of statement in their forums. I HAVEN'T seen that yet.

I HAVE read that inhaling ANY type of synthetic fiber can be very dangerous. Did you read what the firemen had to say about that? I don't think it is necessary to know the exact make up of the fiber, only that it is synthetic.

It is my hope that by keeping this issue alive, it WILL be addressed and remedied by the suppliers and manufacturers.

If you think this thread has become useless, you can simply stop reading it. I don't read things that I find useless. Why should you?

I do not intend to go back to smoking NOR to give up on ecigs. I choose a safer ecig. But I cannot just walk away from an issue that CAN be fixed and watch other people use this product unaware of the problems. Nor will I.

Well good for you, but I think Scott up above pretty much sums up my response. And just because you haven't heard a GRAND ANNOUNCEMENT, doesn't mean something isn't being done. At this point you are beating a dead horse. And if you think a newbie is going to read through posts and posts of the same idea stated over and over, you are sadly mistaken. There are other more constructive ways to go about your goal, but you choose the most destructive route. In the end, you could be hurting our cause more than helping it. Guess that is a chance you are willing to take based on inconclusive assumptions.

Done here.

 

[Katmar]

Well good for you, but I think Scott up above pretty much sums up my response. And just because you haven't heard a GRAND ANNOUNCEMENT, doesn't mean something isn't being done. At this point you are beating a dead horse. And if you think a newbie is going to read through threads and threads of the same idea stated over and over, you are sadly mistaken. There are other more constructive ways to go about your goal, but you choose the most destructive route. In the end, you could be hurting our cause more than helping it.

Done here.

I am open for more constructive routes???
And the noobs won't have to read through pages and pages. That's what the New Members forum is for.

 

[spaky]

I am open for more constructive routes???

Apparently it's to just shut up and hope for the best.