Ameravape rant

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edyle

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Your inbox has exceeded it's limit. Dayton Ohio Vapors and Local vape shops on FB is where the discussion on it is. I won't use the store's full name, but their initials are VH...you know there is only one store in the Dayton area with those initials, so you'll figure it out.

As it stands, the owner is forced to operate two classes in the cloud contest...clones and authentics. I don't believe that the Ameravape prizes will be allowed to be given out in the clone class due to Ameravape demands.

I've told the owner that it most likely means the atty must be authentic as well, and that they will need to completely check all items, because Ameravape is a lawsuit happy company.

That's kinda crazy; if somebody makes their own mod and it looks alot like ... say a hana mod, is it an authentic home made mod or is it a clone of a hana?
 

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Well I am so mixed on this... on the one hand Amerivape is such a disgrace as a company and mod maker I hate to agree with anything they do. On the other hand if I were an original mod maker I would most certainly not give free product as a promotion to anything that involved Clones which hurt my business.
 

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I guess that means you found it? LOL

I don't know how they plan on checking all atty's and make sure they are authentic. A good 1:1 clone will easily pass through as authentic.

That's another thing; obvious clones will be disallowed, but the real problem: the counterfiets will end up being allowed unless everybody has to walk with certificates of authenticity or something which also can be counterfiet.

crazy
 

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Well I am so mixed on this... on the one hand Amerivape is such a disgrace as a company and mod maker I hate to agree with anything they do. On the other hand if I were an original mod maker I would most certainly not give free product as a promotion to anything that involved Clones which hurt my business.

The area was hit hard by the Great Recession since it's traditionally a manufacturing town. Most of the vapers there own clones because it's what they can afford. Most shops there have one small case of authentics, and multiple cases of clones, because it's what sells. I know because I've made it a point to visit as many shops there as possible...I go there once a month for a week at a time.

Why alienate the larger market for the smaller one? The larger market that purchases clones is where the most money is made. Besides...most of the people in the area that own authentic pieces didn't buy them locally...they bought from the internet.
 

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I guess that means you found it? LOL

I don't know how they plan on checking all atty's and make sure they are authentic. A good 1:1 clone will easily pass through as authentic.
I am sure I have not seen everything but outside of the occasional RDA I am pretty sure anyone who has any experience with the real thing can tell a clone is a clone with very little effort. Again I might be wrong but after years of vaping I have never held or viewed a clone I did not know was a clone ( again outside of the occasional RDA TOBH being one)
 

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Stringplucker, as much as I'd love to reply about a local cloud competition, my hands are tied on many different levels.

(That's a good thing.)

I can understand...I really can. I'm sure you read the thread about it, commenting there about it isn't needed. I'm just outraged by how they can tie the hands of the company hosting the event. It's one thing if Ameravape was promoting the event and having a rep show up...but this is a local event.

BTW...you should have come out to their Kettering store a few weeks ago when I was in town. We had a blast...One guy showed up with a handfull of pizzas, and the owner made sure there was plenty of juices available to testing. It was mainly a meet and greet...not really a store sponsored event. We just decided to have it there because it's closest to where we were staying, and my health doesn't permit me to wander too far from the anchor...if you know what I mean.

I'll be back in town in another month or so...when I do, I'll be sure to stop in and see you.
 

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The area was hit hard by the Great Recession since it's traditionally a manufacturing town. Most of the vapers there own clones because it's what they can afford. Most shops there have one small case of authentics, and multiple cases of clones, because it's what sells. I know because I've made it a point to visit as many shops there as possible...I go there once a month for a week at a time.

Why alienate the larger market for the smaller one? The larger market that purchases clones is where the most money is made. Besides...most of the people in the area that own authentic pieces didn't buy them locally...they bought from the internet.
I am in no hurry to start an argument that is being well addressed on another thread and i can appreciate that clones fill a need especially if it means that someone can stop smoking analogs. However whether purchased from the internet or not it supports the original mod makers that take the risk and innovate our industry. If an original mod makers is giving free things away and they want to support their peers that make original mods than it is a reasonable position to take. If the clone makers support a competition than I support their doing so as well. It is Amerivapes decision where to spend the profit they make on marketing and frankly I think it is a poor business decision to support an event that supports businesses that steal from them.
 

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Tobh and Stillare are difficult to spot clones on. I'm sure Doge and Mutant X will be the same way soon...they are basic and easy to replicate with little skill.
That is true but they can be spotted it is tougher with RDA's especially since you cant test for mystery metal at the event
 

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Ryedan, I have met Stringplucker personally, as in, face to face. As a person who met the man, I can vouch that this most likely is true, and I doubt he'd make up something like this,

Thank you Rocketpunk, that's good enough for me :)

I understand your comment, though. But I am going to give Stringplucker the benefit of the doubt. But I would also like corroboration. I did a little bit of Google Fu myself and it seems like Ameravape polarizes people.

Yup, I've been around long enough to know not to believe anything I hear from an unknown source without verification from at least one other source and preferably a trusted one. Even then you have to be careful, but that really helps.

I hope you understand Stringplucker, it was nothing personal, I was just being careful.
 

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Thank you Rocketpunk, that's good enough for me :)



Yup, I've been around long enough to know not to believe anything I hear from an unknown source without verification from at least one other source and preferably a trusted one. Even then you have to be careful, but that really helps.

I hope you understand Stringplucker, it was nothing personal, I was just being careful.

No worries. It's the internets...Where anyone can be anything they want. I was raised to believe nothing I hear, and barely half of what I see. I'm skeptical of everything I see on the 'net.

Nonetheless, Rocketpunk confirmed what I said...and he knows the store I'm talking about. That should be enough to quell most doubters.
 

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If they really are poor, perhaps they shouldn't waste their money on juice practicing for a cloud contest...
What? I'm poor so I don't deserve to have fun? Dang... that's sucky.

Honestly, if Amerivape believes their products are so superior to clones they should let the clone users compete. Surely their product will beat clones hands down....right? For great justice. Noone left out, and "Authentivape" can feel superior and self-important.
 
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