American Medical Association on Tasers, Electronic Cigarettes

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combovan

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I thought we were going to get e-cigs with built in tasers.............people need to watch the titles around here.......

Could you imagine that you go to take a toke on a manual switch and instead of heating the coil you tazer yourself and get a shot of vapor at the same time
It kind of gives new meaning to going up in a cloud of vapor/smoke..
might be a hell of a buzz though :p
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At least an intelligent organization is going to do a real study - instead of these incompetent bureaucratic ants in the Senate and FDA. Look how many positive stories people have posted about their doctors' reactions to the e-cigs... it's only the political scumbags looking for the next great bandwagon that'll boost their careers that are attacking it.
Hmmm be nice to have AMA do a true study of E-cigs
 

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Agreed. I do agree that a final study must be done as to the overall safety factor of vaping. My only hope is that the AMA can do it without government interferance.

It's not the AMA itself that does the hands-on parts of studies. Members of the AMA, usually doctors who are at or affiliated with a major research university's medical school do the actual study. They get it peer reviewed, and it get accepted by a respected medical journal, and then the AMA basically endorses it, while adding that, of course, more research is needed to answer some sort of unanswered questions. The only times I have seen them state that a study was comprehensive enough that its answer could be accepted as good medicine is when longitudinal studies follow patients for many years looking for and at effects over time.

However, the above paragraph is not why I am concerned. I am concerned because research universities run on research grants that members of the faculty apply for and receive. Who do you think has enough money to fund such a study? Who will step up with a few million dollars (no exaggeration) to do an in-depth study (that could take years before any sort of answer is known)? My best guess is Phillip Morris. They wanted "tobacco products" to fall under the FDA to rid them self of the various forms of competition they are feeling. And - - it worked!

The vast majority of studies given to the FDA of new drugs are funded by the very drug companies that will profit from the drug's sales. It's no secret. It's all done neat and tidy. I'm not being cynical - I worked at a major research university for over 20 years and knew many of the people who make good livings and build careers doing medical research studies. It gets you tenure, it gets you promoted, and it gets you status and more money. It's big business who has the money to fund this work because they are somehow the ones who profit from it.
 

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"Electronic Cigarettes in Smoking Cessation Programs: Unsure whether they can safely help patients quit smoking or the risks associated with them. Further study is planned."

This is actually VERY encouraging news! I'm anxious for them to get on with it and to see their findings!

The other things as someone else mentioned, I'm glad an established medical organization is going to do studies on e-cigs and hopefully, once and for all dispel the concerns over safety of these life-saving devices! :thumbs:
 

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I think the best study is one done by grad students working on their Doctorate. I vaguely remember that Ruyan Group is doing just that with (forget the university name).


Expensive? Heck yes, paid for by anyone who wants to pay. This is where peer review comes into play. The more reviews, the better. I wonder if the ECA can afford, or at least find out, if they can afford a university research program.

AMA = Still bias. Grad students = Very little bias, if any. They are not paid, the school is.

Edit: What bitey said :)

 
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