radioshack and harbor freight also have them in aa and aaa size. they are flat on both ends so you ahave to read carefully what is - and +. The Harbor Freight ones say they are protected right on them.
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Puck,
I've commented a few times in this thread, I'll clarify my point of view, so no one misunderstands:
You do not have the best mod out there
There is no best.
What you do have is something just about anyone could duplicate, without knowing a lot about regulators, boosters, diodies, etc. If someone wants a mod and just can't get a grasp on electronics, then duplicate something that is easy to make, and works. If someone wants to experiment and make something different, fine, but the puck obviously works.
If you build one, build it just like instructed and yours will work also.
Rocketman,
I like simple
I've commented a few times in this thread, I'll clarify my point of view, so no one misunderstands:
You do not have the best mod out there
There is no best.
What you do have is something just about anyone could duplicate, without knowing a lot about regulators, boosters, diodies, etc. If someone wants a mod and just can't get a grasp on electronics, then duplicate something that is easy to make, and works. If someone wants to experiment and make something different, fine, but the puck obviously works.
If you build one, build it just like instructed and yours will work also.
Rocketman,
I like simple
That's wild. I don't see any rechargeable lithium batteries in AA or AAA on the radioshack website. Niether harbor freight but their website just sucks. Guess I need to go on a road trip just to check it out.
Just make sure if you're going to use the same battery configuration as the tutorial shows then the batteries have to be 1.2 volt batteries. if they are 1.5 or higher then it may need to be rewired as needed for the voltage. You will want to stay under 5 volts (loaded).
Last time I checked, the lithium batteries I was looking at were 1.2 volts but that was a over a year ago and they were not chargeable. If they are higher, some more config'n needs to be done with the battery box.
Puck.... YU DA MAN!!!!! YOU ARE A BLOOMIN GENIUS!!!
Just got mine done. I'm thinkin uh yeah ni batteries... This is gonna be weak as dishwater..... NOT!!!!! This thing rocks!!!!Gonna try it at work tomorrow. Heavy vapor so this is the acid test.
OBTW
batteryspace.com has these ..
NiMH Rechargeable Cell: 12 PCS AAA 1.2V 1000mAh batteries
MH-AAA1000APZx12 1 $10.50 for 12 pack .Shipping was 8.62 for a total 19.12 but I paid 15$'s for 4 today from walgreens so ain't bad
14500's run 4/5 bucks each .
Oh and DON'T use gorilla glue to stick boxes together.. don't hold.. Mines curin some JB quik right now :>)
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Ah!!!! Another convert to the dark side
I have read thousands of posts on this forum and the big misconception is that for an e-cig to work, you must use li-ion. Totally false. The only reason manufacturers use li-ion is to make a battery that is the size of a cigarette. That basically it. If they didn't care about the size, they'd use NiMh becuase they have a longer lifetime (charge /recharge cycles) and can handle the abuse and they wouldn't have to put in protection circuitry.
NiMh cons:
1. Loses about 1% of it's charge per day so don't leave them laying around for days or weeks after being charged. Charge them then use them. Leaving sit for a day is okay.
2. Size: Takes more batteries to get 3.7 to 5 volts.
New NiMh Pros:
1. Supplies fairly even power through discharge cycle. Sharp drop off only at the end of life of the charge.
2. Can handle high drain situations with ease.
3. Available anywhere you shop locally.
4. No protection circuitry needed.
5. Lot's of boxes for mods available since size is standard.
6. Doesn't wear out as fast as li-ion. You can get hundreds of charges out of NiMh before they start to deteriorate. Li-ion, no so much. I've had li-ions charge capacity die off in two months.
7. They don't have memory problems like Ni-cad. Even if they did, we drain them down to nothing most of the time while vaping. But newer NiMh technology has pretty much eliminated memory effect.
8. Can be charged in 15 minutes with a 15 minute charger with no bad effects on the batteries. Try that with a li-ion. Can't be done.
Believe me, I've done a lot of research. There are a lot of benefits to using NiMh if size isn't the problem but if you look at the Puck... it's not that big
One big thing to remember... keep your cart wet. If it isn't wet, you press the button longer which will eat batteries faster. Keep it wet and you will only need to hit the button for about 3 seconds normally.
rbonie, let me know how it works out for you. Thanks.
ps... JB Qwik is what I use
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Actually, the whole battery memory thing is for the most part a myth. It only happens in a very specific type of ni-cad cell, and only if constantly discharged the exact same voltage every time, and then recharged to the exact same level every time. The rechargeable ni-cads that you buy in a store will not exhibit the memory effect, even if you somehow managed to achieve the exact conditions in which it can happen. Most of what people so often ascribe to the memory effect is really nothing more than the batteries simply wearing out, which over time they inevitably will. Sorry I know this is off topic, but its important nonetheless, because many people end up being grossly misinformed about this
Oh, and by the way, I managed to get get two full days of moderate to heavy vaping off of four nimh AAAs with the rn4081 atty
. just thought i'd throw that out there
Oh, and by the way, I managed to get get two full days of moderate to heavy vaping off of four nimh AAAs with the rn4081 atty
That's fantastic! 2 full days! I thought the AAA NiMhs would do really well since the 4081 atomizer is about the same ohms as the 901. So now we have another atomizer to add to the list of "Sweet Atomizers" for the 4 AAA NiMh configuration.
That means the the 4081 would be a good atomizer for the Puck. So Johnny Bobcat has proven that if anyone wants to build a Puck, they can use a rn4081 atomizer and have great results with it. They just need a different connector for the atomizer besides what is in the parts list because the tutorial is for a 901 atomizer.
Johnny bobcat also knows of a tire valve cap that can be modified into a connector for the rn4081 atomizer which I believe is mentioned somewhere in one of the two Puck threads.
Anyone try this with KR808 cartos? Shouldn't be hard to dremel a groove in the threads on the battery side for air flow, but how do the cartos handle the higher voltage?
Usin it now on 808 cart's. Runs hot but "Hey Mikey!!!! I LIKE IT!!"
no prob with airflow either. Draw is hard but I like a little resistance. Makes it feel more like an analog, or a pipe.
Been usin them on a 5 volt Nicco Stick style mod for a long time.Luv the Vape!
This seems hotter actually than my 18500 mod. Whats the voltage at the atty end. (er... voltage /amps WHO knows??!! )
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My experiance has been about 1/2 a day of heavy vaping. But... I was a 2 pack a day guy before pv's came along.Got a dozen batteries coming so carrying a spare set will fix it.
Maybe 'cause I'm using 808 cartomizers it's pulling more juice also... Don't know. I'm just so damn happy with the full bodied vape I don't care about the little stuff. Reminds me of my "juice Box" .( That is the 1/2 day it actually worked I mean)
Got a model # on that charger? Mine says: chvc3. Distructions said 12 hours to charge AAA's (sigh)
OK This is what I'v found..
GOTO http://www.batteryjunction.com/vav10baysmch.html
Item #: CV6988x0001
CH-V6988 IC-Controlled 10 Channels Smart Charger for Ni-MH / Ni-Cd AA &AAA (as low as) $21.95
"SAYS" it charges ni mh AAA in 1 to 4 hours. That will work!!!!
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Why that cumbersome thing? Pulling and dealing with 4 separate batteries would make the mod more trouble than it's worth. Why not some in mod charging, the whole pack at once?
Multi-Current Universal Smart Charger for Any 2.4-7.2 V NiMH/ NiCd Battery Pack --- CE listed
Multi-Current Smart Charger ( 1-2 A ) For any 4.8V - 10.8V NiMH / NiCd Battery Packs - UL Listed
Although Puck seems concerned about buying local. I ain't.
I kinda like this pack, looks like it will fit in a single 3AA box with about 12mm left over for the switch etc.
NiMH Battery Pack: 4.8V 1200mAh ( 4x2/3A ) with Tabs
The Mako uses this 400mAh pack with folks reporting good results and vaping times.
5 Volt NIMH Battery for The Mako Maksi
My experiance has been about 1/2 a day of heavy vaping. But... I was a 2 pack a day guy before pv's came along.Got a dozen batteries coming so carrying a spare set will fix it.
Maybe 'cause I'm using 808 cartomizers it's pulling more juice also... Don't know. I'm just so damn happy with the full bodied vape I don't care about the little stuff. Reminds me of my "juice Box" .( That is the 1/2 day it actually worked I mean)
Most likely the 808 cart is running 2.2 ohms or the like. If the ohms are lower, batteries will not last as long. The 901 and now the rn4801 work well with long battery life due to the resistance being around 3 to 3.2 ohms.
Either way, my tests with the Joye 510 were about the same (about 12 hours) and it's resistance was 2.2 ohms. With my 910 I get plenty of hours out of it to where I normally don't have to carry batteries with me... but I keep a spare set just in case something happens (always be prepared).
Why that cumbersome thing? Pulling and dealing with 4 separate batteries would make the mod more trouble than it's worth. Why not some in mod charging, the whole pack at once?
Multi-Current Universal Smart Charger for Any 2.4-7.2 V NiMH/ NiCd Battery Pack --- CE listed
Multi-Current Smart Charger ( 1-2 A ) For any 4.8V - 10.8V NiMH / NiCd Battery Packs - UL Listed
Although Puck seems concerned about buying local. I ain't.
I kinda like this pack, looks like it will fit in a single 3AA box with about 12mm left over for the switch etc.
NiMH Battery Pack: 4.8V 1200mAh ( 4x2/3A ) with Tabs
The Mako uses this 400mAh pack with folks reporting good results and vaping times.
5 Volt NIMH Battery for The Mako Maksi
It's really a personal preference and actually changing 4 small AAA batteries is not that big a deal as you might think. All you do is open the back cover... slap it into your hand and all of the batteries pop out into your hand. You pop in a new set which takes you less than 30 seconds and your on your way.
My design for the Puck was based on getting everything local for a reason. To give everyone a way to build a box and maintain it without having to order anything, just in case something happens like your stuck without a set of charged batteries or something breaks. That was the whole "Design Rule #1" I was going for.
So if you have to order your batteries, you might as well build a Nicobox or similar box that uses one li-ion instead of going to the trouble of building the Puck.
Just my local 2 cents worth
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The beauty of these forums is not just copying someone's mod note for note, but also being able to incorporate some of it's strengths. You spent a lot of time touting the benefits on NiMH. I listened.It's really a personal preference and actually changing 4 small AAA batteries is not that big a deal as you might think. All you do is open the back cover... slap it into your hand and all of the batteries pop out into your hand. You pop in a new set which takes you less than 30 seconds and your on your way.
So if you have to order your batteries, you might as well build a Nicobox or similar box that uses one li-ion instead of going to the trouble of building the Puck.
Just my local 2 cents worth
Your Joye atty results and NiMH findings wet my whistle. To be able to vape in the 4+V range without the need for regulators or resistors, and with great vape times. There is no "Nicobox or similar box that uses one li-ion" that can be built without additional components that runs at that sweet voltage. I already have a charger from the old RC car days that will work.
The beauty of these forums is not just copying someone's mod note for note, but also being able to incorporate some of it's strengths. You spent a lot of time touting the benefits on NiMH. I listened.
Your Joye atty results and NiMH findings wet my whistle. To be able to vape in the 4+V range without the need for regulators or resistors, and with great vape times. There is no "Nicobox or similar box that uses one li-ion" that can be built without additional components that runs at that sweet voltage. I already have a charger from the old RC car days that will work.
Ahhh.... I see now. You're after the voltage. That makes sense then to use NiMH packs if voltage is your main goal.
I always hated mail order but I still do it because I have to with things like atomizers and such. That's why I wanted to get everything local as much as possible (I have no patience)
I am also paranoid that something will break and can't get what I need to fix it quickly unless I order it. The more I can get locally, the better I feel
For instance, I order all of my atomizers and such from our US vendors but, I ordered some actual connectors from Heavens gifts (China, just to see how quickly the shipments come) on the 22nd and they're still sitting at the "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment" status. Probably be the last thing I order from China if I can help it. It's killing me. I don't like to wait.
I just measured the resistance across a few of my 808 cartos and I got between 3.1 and 3.7 ohms. The ones on the higher end are VaporNine's Turbo cartos. Looks like a pretty good match to me
Picked up all the parts to make a Puck yesterday at Radio Shack. The only thing I'm missing is a tapered reamer which neither Lowes nor Home Depot carried (or even knew what it was). Time to improvise!
HarborFreight is your friend.I just measured the resistance across a few of my 808 cartos and I got between 3.1 and 3.7 ohms. The ones on the higher end are VaporNine's Turbo cartos. Looks like a pretty good match to me
Picked up all the parts to make a Puck yesterday at Radio Shack. The only thing I'm missing is a tapered reamer which neither Lowes nor Home Depot carried (or even knew what it was). Time to improvise!
T-Handle Reamer
Grab one of these too.
Helping Hands
Yep, that's where I got mine... The one shown in the tutorial. If you go in the store, it's in the plumbing section for some reason.
I used these back in my early electronics education and it was one of the required tools so I got acustomed to using them. They make it really quick to create the exact hole you need for any sized component.
One really useful tool for mods.
I just measured the resistance across a few of my 808 cartos and I got between 3.1 and 3.7 ohms. The ones on the higher end are VaporNine's Turbo cartos. Looks like a pretty good match to me
Picked up all the parts to make a Puck yesterday at Radio Shack. The only thing I'm missing is a tapered reamer which neither Lowes nor Home Depot carried (or even knew what it was). Time to improvise!
Rboni used an 808 carto and got a good days vape on the 808 carto but if the resistance is 3.1 to 3.7, it should have lasted longer. I'm interested in seeing how long the 4 AAA NiMH works for you on your 808 cartos. After you get it built and operat'n, give us a report on how it does if you don't mind.
With my 901 atties, I get a full 24 hours which is from the time I put in fresh batts to about the same time the next day and I vape it pretty often, even all day in my office at work.
Rboni loved the amount of vapor he was getting and was happy with the battery he did get but I really believe it should get more life out of the batts with 3.1 to 3.7 ohms.
Let us know how it comes out for you.
Rboni... are you holding down that vape button for ten seconds every time you hit it????
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