Anxiety from vaping: found my solution
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Had it my entire life. It just feels like the nicotine intake is always too much and my brain goes crazy
Actually I agree. My first time around, last spring, I did get the depression at the 3wk and 3mo points, but it didn't last long either time, and since I had no other withdrawal issues at all, I figured probably best just to stick with plain nicotine, it was working fine. But after the relapse/recovery, if it hadn't been for the WTA, I couldn't have stayed smoke-free. And to be honest, I don't feel the degree of freedom from addiction that others talk about alot -- if I go too long without a vape, it's not a pretty sight. But, I'm gradually working my way free of WTA, and some of the "bullying" does seem to be easing a little -- I'm at just 3.5% now, and just about to move to 3%, so it won't be long till I'm free of it.
My advice to anyone who's having really awful cravings or mental/emotional disturbances is try some WTA, it very well could help a great deal -- it's definitely better than smoking! -- but if you can get by with just nicotine, that's better. Nicotine alone is not terribly addictive, no moreso than caffeine.
Andria
I haven't had that, but I used to get the "phantom beer smell", a LOT! Which is really cruel because I always enjoyed the smell of beer better than the taste!
Andria
I once had mental health worker (not a doctor) tell me I should keep smoking if it helped my anxiety. Now there have been studies linking cigarette smoking to anxiety and other mental health issues (both that it is more common in those of us with certain diagnoses and that it is a trigger for things like anxiety). Pretty interesting stuff.
I do find my anxiety is more under control since I quit cigarettes. And I try not to vape with super high nicotine levels (same way I try not to drink a ton of caffeine) to prevent triggering any anxiety attacks.
Glad you're working out something that works for you.
I do find my anxiety is more under control since I quit cigarettes. And I try not to vape with super high nicotine levels (same way I try not to drink a ton of caffeine) to prevent triggering any anxiety attacks.
Glad you're working out something that works for you.
I'm working towards eliminating WTA entirely, because of the uncertainty about what exactly is going to happen to everything in the vape market -- I'd far rather withdraw very slowly and steadily at my own pace, than have it forced on me when I still need it. The nicotine doesn't worry me as much; it will still be available, even if a great deal more costly -- but I have about 4 yrs of nicotine in the freezer, to help insulate me from radical price increases. I'm currently around 9-10mg (9mg in the Achilles, 10mg in everything else), and may well stay at that level for some time, as it seems to work very well for me.
Plus, I figure that if I ever really need to drop nicotine, it might not be too difficult, maybe about the same as the withdrawal one suffers from abrupt cessation of caffeine; abrupt withdrawal from WTA, I know already, is a very different and more difficult matter. I took advantage of the 4th of July sale that Wholecig was running, to buy what may be the last bottle of WTA I may ever need -- it's going into the freezer with my nicotine, as my "just in case" stash, since I still have plenty "out" for mixing.
Which means my vaping just got a whole lot less costly.
Andria
Um yeah, you can. You have to know Haunted to get him.
If you follow him around you will see what I mean ROFLMAO. His imagination has no limits
His wife is a good trainer. Apparently he is difficult to train?Um yeah, you can. You have to know Haunted to get him.
His imagination has no limits
got my 3 new flavors. CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl. Mixed up a bit at 2 drops/ml. Not bad at all by itself
CAP Golden Pineapple, not tried yet.
TFA Vanilla Swirl, not tried yet.
CAP Golden Pineapple, not tried yet.
TFA Vanilla Swirl, not tried yet.
It would be better not to use alcohol, mayonnaise, coffee, tea, buttered popcorn, chewing gum or any host of almost anything in life. As I always say, choose your poison. The only way that would happen is if we all lived in our own bubbles and never communicated with each other.
Could be mate. It just didn't follow my behavior pattern. 3 years vaping I still do not crave a vape. I still crave a smoke, but that feeling is easily quashed.
Yes WTA contains other alkaloids than just nicotine. It is in the name. Whole Tobacco Alkaloids. It puts other ingredients from the tobacco plant that are in smokes into eliquids. After vaping nicotine only liquids and WTA liquids one can definitely tell there is other stuff in there by the feeling it gives. I bought one bottle to supplement my liquids. It helped greatly and it has been over a year since then. I am thinking of buying another bottle because the stress just ticked up in my life.
My experience and mine alone. I do not crave nicotine in a sense. Vaping does not give me the same feeling that a smoke did. If nicotine was as addictive as the more extreme drugs, I would be addicted. I had smoked for 30+ years. I crave cigarettes. Vaping helps with that craving but it is still there. That tells me there is something else than just nicotine. My personal observation of body is not scientific. Then again all the other studies we quote aren't any better than my personal one. Maybe its just me. There are 4000-6000 chemicals in a cigarette. Taking one of those, nicotine, and saying it is the "killer" drug is well preposterous. Methanol, Tar, Hexamine, Butane, Arsenic and well Ammonia scares the hell out of me more than nicotine. Quite honestly, I had no idea those were in the stuff I smoked for 30+ years.
My poisons of choice are bourbon and grilled pork belly (also my wife, but it's a bit different story). I am trying to avoid other poisons to be able to enjoy my chosen ones for as long as possible.
Pick your poison wisely.
the healthful ones seem to think if it tastes good spit it out.
the healthful ones seem to think if it tastes good spit it out.
A few months ago when I mentioned the presence of MAOIs in WTA, I got treated to the "NUH UH! YER WRONG!" sort of reply, but I still tend to think there *are* MAOIs in WTA, because of the total lack of depression since I started using it -- which is truly amazing, in my case, particularly while engaged in the process of giving up smoking, as this particular body is very, very prone to depression for the slightest reason, or even no reason at all. Given that the bit you quoted identifies them as alkaloids, I am further convinced that there are in fact MAOIs in WTA.
Andria
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