Any other VV devices on the same level as the Provari?

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DPLongo22

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Speaking personally, I have absolutely no need for variable wattage. I purchase all of my juice delivery devices with the same resistance (2.5 - 3.0 ohm) because I know that is the resistance range that performs best at the voltages that I use. I don't use low resistance atomizers at all. I prefer a cooler vape and low resistance gives me a harsh vape that I don't care for.

Variable wattage is useful for those people who have a variety of resistances to choose from. If that is you, then perhaps an APV that has variable wattage is a better choice for YOU. If that is the case, a Provari is not for you. Simple.

And even with VW,I still find myself moving the dial when I change juices or toppers. I don't vape to settings, instead to taste. For me, at least, there is truly zero difference between them. I'll take a good device, whichever it may be.
 

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Just received one today, as an addition to my provari mini. Build quality is every bit equal to the provari, fit and finish is at least on par. With the 18350, it's lighter than the provari mini. Vv or vw doesn't matter, it'll do both..

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Just curious, since I'm DEFINITELY not in the market for anything (oy VAY!); where did you buy it from? I searched before a 2nd "something else (marvelous)" came into play for me.
 

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Just curious, since I'm DEFINITELY not in the market for anything (oy VAY!); where did you buy it from? I searched before a 2nd "something else (marvelous)" came into play for me.

You can buy if directly from svoemesto. Just google svoemesto shop and it's the first result. Sorry I can't be bothered to post a link.

He also has vendors that carry it.
 

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And even with VW,I still find myself moving the dial when I change juices or toppers. I don't vape to settings, instead to taste. For me, at least, there is truly zero difference between them. I'll take a good device, whichever it may be.

Yes, I adjust my voltage to taste, also. I change flavors frequently, as much as several times a day. Each one has a "sweet spot" voltage. I don't just vape all of my flavors at one wattage. What good would variable wattage do ME if I still have to adjust variable wattage, too?

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Every mass produced delivery device I know of has a tolerance range of resistances that is significant (+/- 0.2 ohms I believe for typical cartos). And it's quite common to get one that's further out of spec than that. Many also change resistance slightly at different usage levels or points in their lifespans. VW is absolutely no worse, and in many cases better than VV. There really is no logical argument against it.
A variance of 0.2 ohms is nothing and hardly worth bringing up as an excuse to use variable wattage. To me it's just another bell & whistle that has the potential to malfunction on a mod. I like Provape's approach in their design to keep things simple, basic and dependable. The more bells & whistles you add to a product the more likely something is not going to work at some point.

Most of the Chinese made mods use a cheaper processor that is not as accurate as the Provari's. My Smoktech VV Gripper and Segelei Ovale V8 both appear to output more voltage at a set voltage than the same given voltage setting of my Provari. I know that from the get go and have to adjust the "power" accordingly as much as 1 volt lower on those two mods. Some vapors mistakenly interpret that as "My mod hits harder". Well, if that's what you like and want, good for you. I'll take the more accurate voltage on the Provari for myself any day of the week.
 
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Speaking personally, I have absolutely no need for variable wattage. I purchase all of my juice delivery devices with the same resistance (2.5 - 3.0 ohm) because I know that is the resistance range that performs best at the voltages that I use. I don't use low resistance atomizers at all. I prefer a cooler vape and low resistance gives me a harsh vape that I don't care for.

Variable wattage is useful for those people who have a variety of resistances to choose from. If that is you, then perhaps an APV that has variable wattage is a better choice for YOU. If that is the case, a Provari is not for you. Simple.

I was going to take the time to say basically the same thing, but kinda pointless now. :)
 

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Yes, I adjust my voltage to taste, also. I change flavors frequently, as much as several times a day. Each one has a "sweet spot" voltage. What good would variable wattage do ME if I still have to adjust variable wattage, too?

No less good than adjusting voltage.

A variance of 0.2 ohms is nothing and hardly worth bringing up as an excuse to use variable wattage. To me it's just another bell & whistle that has the potential to malfunction on a mod. I like Provape's approach in their design to keep things simple, ,basic and dependable.

What? .2 ohms is significant itself, but +/- .2 ohms is a .4 ohm range. There is no more chance of it going wrong than any other chip feature, not that there is any evidence that that is even an issue despite the proliferation of VW devices. The idea that it might break is silly self-justification.

There is zero reason to rule out VW in favor of VV per se. Saying otherwise is unobjective.
 
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Yes - VW only. Personally, and I've expressed this previously, I don't see any difference between VV & VW. I know that's viewed as sacreligous, from both fans' perspectives, but I don't. I change VW as often as I change VV, and I haven't been able to identify any fine-tuning advantages from one nor the other.

MY opinions:

1. The concept of "set & forget" was nothing more than a marketing ploy, and
2. VW fine tunes perfectly well. At least with with .1 increments on a DNA20.

I can't say enough that "Variable" is the key word in either equation. The trailing word is but but semantics.

Let the arguments begin. I've got to leave for work. Have fun, one & all.

I would agree...my only gripe with the dna20 is the lack of step down. I sill put in for one on some list.
 

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The only thing I can add is that I finally have a minor issue with my V1 provari after two years and four months of daily use. I'm not easy on a mod. It's been dropped many, many times. I've had it in my lap and jumped out of the car, sending the provari careening across numerous parking lots. I've broken off Vivinovas and carto tanks in the threads, requiring extraction with pliers. I bought a mod with a brass head and damaged the threads within weeks if that gives you any idea. I need a tool, not a showpiece (although I love the showpieces as well).

Anyway the issue is with the switch. How many presses has it seen, between the menu and vaping? I'd venture it's easily in the tens of thousands. And I can send it off to provape and they'll not only fix it, they'll upgrade it to a V2 chip for $20.

Same level? Nothing that I can easily buy.
 

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Just curious, since I'm DEFINITELY not in the market for anything (oy VAY!); where did you buy it from? I searched before a 2nd "something else (marvelous)" came into play for me.

Cloud 9, just came in today. One from Dampfzauber still on it's way

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Hello!

I'm wondering how the Tesla compares to the Provari at this point. I just recently bought a Tesla (it's my first APV), and it sounds similar to what the Provari can do, if not more so. It uses a 18650, has a resistance checker, VV and VW, VV goes in increments of .1 and watts are in .5 increments. I think the body is all aluminum and it seems very sturdy so far. I know one day I'll be getting a Provari, when the novelty of having the Tesla wears off, but at this point it seems to do everything that the Provari does, unless I'm missing something.

I chose it over the itaste MVP because it goes up to 6v instead of the 5v, but honestly I don't see myself ever needing to go up to 6v as I usually use LR anyhow.
 

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I went with semovar strictly because of the provari fanboys on this forum, and very glad I did.

Maybe you can start a Semover Fanboy Club? It would be cool. We could all snipe at each other, maybe play an annual football match, stuff like that. Like the Jets & Sharks, without the singing, funny dancing and knives.
 

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Hello!

I'm wondering how the Tesla compares to the Provari at this point. I just recently bought a Tesla (it's my first APV), and it sounds similar to what the Provari can do, if not more so. It uses a 18650, has a resistance checker, VV and VW, VV goes in increments of .1 and watts are in .5 increments. I think the body is all aluminum and it seems very sturdy so far. I know one day I'll be getting a Provari, when the novelty of having the Tesla wears off, but at this point it seems to do everything that the Provari does, unless I'm missing something.

I chose it over the itaste MVP because it goes up to 6v instead of the 5v, but honestly I don't see myself ever needing to go up to 6v as I usually use LR anyhow.

The Tesla is a very good mod. It has more features than a Provari and Vapes just as well. We have the Tesla Owners Group, and we have a member that is stationed in Kuwait. He's put his Tesla through a torturous time and it's stiil going strong. The only things you don't get with a Tesla, that you'll get with a Provari, is a good warranty and good support. I own both and they're both very reliable and built well. If you have any questions about your Tesla, stop over at the Tesla Owners Group. :)
 

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I would agree...my only gripe with the dna20 is the lack of step down. I sill put in for one on some list.

Yeah, I do understand that might be an issue for some (many?). And if it was an issue for me, I'd definitely not like it. But it covers my range quite easily, so I wouldn't even know about that issue if I hadn't read about it.
 
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