Anybody else experience sleep issues with low / zero-nic?

[Gato del Jugo]

Started when I went sub-3mg, incrementally stepping down to zero, which took about a month..


Staying up late, not all that tired at night, even though I should be..

Waking up in the middle of the night, and/or waking up early (but going back to bed)..

Tired in the middle of the day..

Getting like an hour or 2 less of sleep every night...


Was pretty bad the first couple days/nights at zero-nic, which was a week & a half ago..

Getting a little better now, but still concerning..


Assuming this is nic-related, as everything else has been the same..

Anybody else experience this? Eventually goes back to normal?

 

[Ryedan]

I made the transition to zero nic over about 9 months and had no sleep issues with it. I have since gone back to using nic sometimes and I still have no sleep issues with it. I've read more than once that people have issues with using nic late in the day and that keeps them up.

If you used to smoke, that is another change you've made.

I've always been a night person so being up at this time of day isn't new for me. I do get a bit of insomnia once in a while though.

Things I find help this are regular exercise, not sleeping in the middle of my day, unwinding a bit before bed and going to bed at a regular time everyday.

Good luck with it

 

[Trypno]

For the short of it, when did you go down to zero nic?

Nicotine is a drug, and like any drug, takes time to wear off. The generally accepted timeframe is 72 hours. After that you are going to be dealing with the effects of psychological dependence, how bad depending on how long nicotine has been a part of your life. One of those effects is going to be insomnia. Your brain is probably used to getting nicotine before bed, and now it misses its snack.

Give it time and stay safe, eventually the insomnia will go away. If you're driving and start to fall asleep, pull over. Also, don't take sedatives while you're insomniatic, unless you want to devote an entire day or possibly two to sleeping.

We vapers tend to downplay nicotine, but it is a highly addictive drug, that's why the majority of us vape, to feed our nicotine addiction without all the other crap that comes with combusting traditional tobacco. The nicotine doesn't really harm us, unless we get it on our skin or directly ingest pure nicotine.

Our brains are setup to receive nicotine, but they don't like losing it because nicotine increases alertness, serotonin and dopamine levels, and energy, and has a stimulating effect on IQ. When you cut off the nicotine, the brain has to work harder to reach those same levels, so you get withdrawal symptoms that can, at times, rival those of ....... The first few times I tried quitting nicotine, I thought I was going insane, or getting dumber. I now realize it's just the chemistry of my brain learning to work without nicotine and honestly...I don't like it, that's why I just ordered a new mod a couple of days ago

So I guess that wasn't very short lol

Anyway, good luck, find ways to relax as best as possible. If you're relaxing at home and feel the urge to doze off, just let go and drift off into bliss.

 

[RAAng]

Oh, did you have to bring up that part about the IQ??? Here I am zeroing in on 0 nic all the time, all the while battling the "nicotine to be addicted and thin vs no nicotine to be unaddicted and fat" quandry, and now you're telling me I have to be fat, stupid and unaddicted or smart, thin and addicted. Sometimes, I swear, I'm going back to a pack a day of Marlboro Reds when I was thin and smart. Let the health chips fall where they may, we're all gonna die.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

For the short of it, when did you go down to zero nic?

Haven't had a cig in almost 10 months.. Was at 18mg when I started dropping nic, back in December..

I've been at zero-nic for about a week & a half now...


One of the possible symptoms of nic withdrawal is fatigue, drowsiness & insomnia..

I thought that would be reserved more for while quitting smoking, not while incrementally dropping your vaping from 3mg to 0mg over the course of a month.. And it could have just been coincidental, but it was pretty bad the 1st couple nights at zero-nic...

Was also just reading that sleeping patterns can be messed up for up to a year after quitting cigs...

 

[plastictree]

My gf's dad used to use a cig a like and he had sleep issues once, but it went away on its own. Might be a coincidence

 

[Darthvong]

I haven't dropped my nic level yet (18mg) but I have noticed since I stopped cigs that I stay up 2 hours later than I did but I wake up refreshed and ready to go. Before I would be whipped by 1100pm and HATE to get up in the morning and wouldn't be functioning until noon.

 

[USRN2016]

I can honestly say that I have no trouble at all going to sleep at a reasonable (for me) time with my 0nic juice.