Anybody Using A Kabuki?

[Zen~]

400 on an istick tc is probably equal to 360 on a better temp mod.

There is absolutely no basis for this statement... TC on a cheaper mod could read Low, Or High, or anywhere in-between. It's not like comparing "power"... the mods ability to temp-limt doesn't mean that lower quality = lower temp... It means less accuracy in whatever direction it pleases.

And in my opinion, temp control on ANY mod isn't worth the trouble. And it's "guessing" the temp on the best of them.

 

[drugarth]

I checked my vaporshark coils and indeed they also have the smaller wicking holes, so that is normal. Can't tell you why yours aren't performing, but this is my settings for them:
They measure at 0.29ohm on my Xvostick with Kabuki. I vape 50/50 at 260C and 27W. I have no issue with the coils...they work fine in my setup, just not better than the regular coils in wattage mode.

 

[h00ligan]

There is absolutely no basis for this statement... TC on a cheaper Mod could read Low, Or High, or anywhere in-between. It's not like comparing "power"... the mods ability to temp-limt doesn't mean that lower quality = lower temp... It means less accuracy in whatever direction it pleases.

And in my opinion, temp control on ANY mod isn't worth the trouble. And it's "guessing" the temp on the best of them.

I can only say compared to two yihi mods and a DNA 200 the istick consistently measures it 40-50 degrees lower (it needs to be turned up to say 480-500 to produce equivalent results as those other mods at 420) Additional testing by others has been completed too

I wasn't stating or suggesting lower quality is lower temp. I was stating a factual observation. Every single temp control device with a recognizably superior chip as technically measured as more accurate requires a lesser setting than the istick.

I know you don't value temp control. We'll have to agree to disagree on many tanks I have tc has been outstanding thing to deal with. My coils last a much longer time. The flavor is better because there's no accidental cotton burning. The vapor volume consistency is better. And I can use every drop ins. Tank without burning anything. The vapor shark coils in the kabuki certainly doesn't fit that experience unfortunately. I'm guessing the coils just aren't that good. My experience would indicate that. Additionally with the istick you can't adjust wattage when in temp mode. That may be another reason it's not so great.

As always I appreciate your feedback. And Ijust wanted to clarify my statement as to why I said in a better device it would be a lower temp. It's not an always situation. It's this specific device compared to other better devices.

As for your views on temp control. I'd urge people to try for themselves. There are a lot of people who feel a good temp control unit really enhances vaping. I'm one of them.

 

[DPLongo22]

There is absolutely no basis for this statement... TC on a cheaper Mod could read Low, Or High, or anywhere in-between. It's not like comparing "power"... the mods ability to temp-limt doesn't mean that lower quality = lower temp... It means less accuracy in whatever direction it pleases.

And in my opinion, temp control on ANY mod isn't worth the trouble. And it's "guessing" the temp on the best of them.

And I already HAVE temp control. I control mine with the power setting.

And I KNOW that someone is going to explain to me why that's not true. Please do not. I do understand, but I truly do not care.

I am a happy vaper.

 

[Zen~]

I can only say compared to two yihi mods and a DNA 200 the istick consistently measures it 40-50 degrees lower (it needs to be turned up to say 480-500 to produce equivalent results as those other mods at 420) Additional testing by others has been completed too

I wasn't stating or suggesting lower quality is lower temp. I was stating a factual observation. Every single temp control device with a recognizably superior chip as technically measured as more accurate requires a lesser setting than the istick.

So... ummmm.... A factual observation would include actual facts.

Things like... "I measured the heat that was being produced by the coil and Mod A was higher by x number of degrees, and mod B was lower by x number."

Which of those mods is actually producing the actual temperature that the screen says it is producing?

See, there are no actual facts being presented... it's anecdotal at best. What it says on the screen may or may not be the temperature at the coil. It's pretty hard to say, without real test equipment, which I have. And I assure you... I have tested MANY mods for temp accuracy in MY quest to make temp control a usable reality... and the number of boards on the market today that can accurately tell you on the screen the temperature that you're actually generating at the coil is exactly, and precisely... ZERO.

THAT is a factual observation.

Don't shoot the messenger, this isn't personal, and I don't think you're an idiot for believing what the manufacturers are telling you. They get away with it because you can't easily measure the output.

This is NOT an opinion... this is an actual, measured reality.

 

[h00ligan]

Actually the ignition point of con is 420° and that's one focal point to rely on if you can set and I stick to 500° and it's not igniting Cotton you know that the temperature setting is wrong so that would be one fact. I don't really know why you're so set against temperature control I can only tell you from my point of view it works well for an answer and flavor prolong the life of coils and making vaping more enjoyable I don't really feel like arguing about it though so I'll just leave at that

 

[StealthyTX]

There is absolutely no basis for this statement...

Waiting on my 2.5 Titanium+Kabuki. I heard that combo can find lost car keys, refill itself, and divide by zero.

 

[Zen~]

Actually the ignition point of con is 420° and that's one focal point to rely on if you can set and I stick to 500° and it's not igniting Cotton you know that the temperature setting is wrong so that would be one fact. I don't really know why you're so set against temperature control I can only tell you from my point of view it works well for an answer and flavor prolong the life of coils and making baby more enjoyable I don't really feel like arguing about it though so I'll just leave after that

I'm not dead set against temp control, I would be a huge fan of it if it actually controlled the temp in a predictable and reliable way. When it happens, I'll be on board. Until it happens, I see no point in owning a device that lies to me.

The current system of temp control is basically, a fraud. <---- THAT is an opinion

 

[David Wolf]

Everyone Knows........

Love is Pain

Awesome song!

 

[David Wolf]

My experience was:

1. The vape was terrible
2. It leaked A LOT

I'm sure item 1 is a "subjective" opinion but for me I just didn't like the vape at all. It was WAY too hot, WAY too airy, and the flavor just wasn't there at all. I tried the .5ohm OCC coil and threw it out after about half an hour. I tried the 1.2ohm coil and it wasn't much better. I tried the RBA (with the supplied coil) and it just didn't do it for me. I set it aside and after not using it for a few days found the tank had drained itself onto my mod and in my mod holder.

I boxed it up and it's waiting to be PIF'd to anyone I find I don't care for anymore lol...

I loved the flavor of my kanger subtank mini with the 1.2 ohm coil, even better than my nautilus mini with 1.6 or 1.8 ohm Vertical cotton coils. But juice leaked out the air holes second day of vaping. Same with the RBA. Unacceptable.

 

[h00ligan]

I'm not dead set against temp control, I would be a huge fan of it if it actually controlled the temp in a predictable and reliable way. When it happens, I'll be on board. Until it happens, I see no point in owning a device that lies to me.

The current system of temp control is basically, a fraud. <---- THAT is an opinion

I understand your point of view. What I can say is first stating someone just blindly believes manufacturers is relatively belittling. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way but it comes off that way. Second whether the temp is 440 or 480. There are benefits that work with it whether the avail temp is spot on or not. Hingis about it work.

Also have you looked at reviews jay use heat probes to test? The yihi 250j and dna200 chips are very close for most things.

As for me if it stops the polluting if flavor by burning any cotton then it's a plus. In some cases not all I find a good tc device helps flavor. Depends on the build. And arguably the case where it helps could be rebuilt so it was less necessary.

Anyway I don't want to argue with you. I am not blindly following commercials for devices. No find real benefits. Others may or may not.

If you know that at 10 units you're going to be burning coil and you set it to 9 units to always hit maximum vapor and flavor characteristics you enjoy. It doesn't matter whether those units are accurate in their readout or not. Although modern devices are getting much much better.

I'm not new to vaping. Not so I blindly follow trends. If j didn't see a benefit I wouldn't buy temp control stuff.

Here were a bunch of probe measured devices I believe.

http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordp...p-the-board-the-software-some-of-the-devices/

If your assertion is that some devices the displayed temperature is inaccurate then I totally agree. If our assertion is that there are at present no benefits to temperature controlled vaping I clearly disagree. You may just have to figure out what reading temp works vs what t says. And sure hats annoying. But doesn't leave tc without benefit. And modern devices are getting pretty close on readout

 

[David Wolf]

I found the vape with the original horizontal coils to be very harsh. I'd get to coughing after a couple of drags. Almost like smoking again. The vertical coils were nice, but the tanks leaked.

Exact same experience as you. The 1.5 ohm horizontal subtank mini coils were so harsh they were unvapable.

 

[LittleBird]

Waiting on my 2.5 Titanium+Kabuki. I heard that combo can find lost car keys, refill itself, and divide by zero.

Keys, yes. Divide by zero, not so much . Pretty great vape, though!

 

[DPLongo22]

Waiting on my 2.5 Titanium+Kabuki. I heard that combo can find lost car keys, refill itself, and divide by zero.

Along with a few other things, even!

Not to give anything away but, well, how do you take your coffee?

 

[DPLongo22]

I'm not dead set against temp control, I would be a huge fan of it if it actually controlled the temp in a predictable and reliable way. When it happens, I'll be on board. Until it happens, I see no point in owning a device that lies to me.

The current system of temp control is basically, a fraud. <---- THAT is an opinion

I take it you weren't a big fan of the original Lavatube VV then.

 

[Katdarling]

I sit in Camp Zen. I don't see the benefit or reality of TC or TL or TG at this point in time.

Actually, I'm residing in Camp DPL. We HAVE temp control. Too warm? Turn the V down. Too cool? Yeah you got it!

 

[DPLongo22]

I sit in Camp Zen. I don't see the benefit or reality of TC or TL or TG at this point in time.

Actually, I'm residing in Camp DPL. We HAVE temp control. Too warm? Turn the V down. Too cool? Yeah you got it!

I hope that this kampground has room service.

And electricity to charge our (non TC) devices.

 

[Katdarling]

I just hope there are chocolate mints on the pillows.

 

[David Wolf]

I sit in Camp Zen. I don't see the benefit or reality of TC or TL or TG at this point in time.

Actually, I'm residing in Camp DPL. We HAVE temp control. Too warm? Turn the V down. Too cool? Yeah you got it!

Some like temp control, some don't, seems some mods do well with it, and not so much others. I have an istick40W TC, never used TC, and won't unless I can do titanium or SS. Nickels out. haha. Reading the resistance of wire is not hard to do electrically, and its not really hard to use this to determine temperature if the metal used has a large enough temperature coefficient (which kanthal doesn't, at least not with current technology). The hard part is controlling that temperature. But its the way of the future in vaping, so likely we will come to accept it as the technology matures, and I"m not sure that some vendor's arent' already there as some fans of TC attest. Not the istick maybe. haha.

 

[coldgin96]

Plus one. That's awesome. I wasn't aware prior to this of different finish kabuki tanks.

USPS psyched me out with a shown delivery date of day but no prezzy in my mailbox. Son of a!

Also. Vapor shark coils arrived. Popped one on and

IT. IS. AWFUL.

I need to contact sweet vapes. I think something is actually wrong with these. They taste like charcoal and won't really fire they registered all over the place. Also the picture on the sweet vapes site shows larger style wicking holes and these are small like the old nautilus coils. Bummer!

Cold...can you get a better pic of that setup?? I love that but hard to see. Maybe outside? Thanks!

Well gee, thanks! I already dismantled that setup and put a big 'ol scratch in the top trying to get that darn drip tip out of there.

I will definitely keep it mind for future pics. Maybe in front of a lit monitor screen? I'm in a onew house (built in 1875), lighting isn't the greatest yet...