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So I'd have to say confirmed it's a poorly made piece. They offered to return it prior to my trying it. Hope that still stands! Anyway I don't feel it's worth trying for anyone else with a kabuki. Just my $.02. There isn't enough care put into the rebuild to be sure of getting one that will work. Unless I happened to get a one in a long shot lemon. Confirmed it won't even wick a 69% vg juice I have for the brief time I could get it to fire. Could be the shelled holes not sure. It's not for me obviously. The new nautilus coils are too good to muck about I suppose.

Well, nearly everybody that commented on the Cisco Spec coil mentioned they don't wick well above 50% VG, so it should come as no surprise that 69% would be WELL out of range.

And I do hope nobody takes your recommendation to not try the Cisco Spec coil, because it is a WONDERFUL coil, even if the wraping of the wires isn't pretty. I can understand if it's not for you, but to impugn the craftsmanship based on your observations is a little unfair. You didn't follow the instructions to dilute, and my guess is you didn't do a slow ramp up in power as was suggested by others. I could be wrong, it seemed like you were teeing up to hate it.

That being said, I have one that I've been using since October of last year, it still vapes great... I have two that have been in since May, they vape great.But you have to use them like old school atomizers, not modern coils. They ARE a different beast. Inside the HH coil is pretty much the same thing as the HH357... so I'd suggest you avoid those as well.

SO... what's the Ω of the one you're using, and how many watts are you at? Call me curious... By the way, the regular nautilus coil is "shelled" as well. You just cant see it unless you tear it apart.
 
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I've owned Three since God knows when although; a very long time for essentially a consumable. Still going strong. The 1.5 ohm jobbies seem to like it down around 3.7V iow, an old school, tight draw vape. If you don't keep it tight they will dry-hit. Using 70/30 pg vg juice.
 

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I've owned Three since God knows when although; a very long time for essentially a consumable. Still going strong. The 1.5 ohm jobbies seem to like it down around 3.7V iow, an old school, tight draw vape. If you don't keep it tight they will dry-hit. Using 70/30 pg vg juice.

Yeah, these are low power attys, for sure... If somebody isn't familiar with old 306's or 510 Joyetech stuff, I can see how they would have a learning curve... it doesn't make them junk, though.
 

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Yeah. You can't just slap them on and crank it up.

h00ligan is still learning the finer points of "finesse vaping"... it has to be hard coming from modern style to head backwards into the older school paradigm. Remember how we struggled back in the day with learning what worked and what didn't?

I just wish he wasn't so quick to proclaim something is sub-par without first learning what par actually is for this style of vaping.
 

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Well, nearly everybody that commented on the Cisco Spec coil mentioned they don't wick well above 50% VG, so it should come as no surprise that 69% would be WELL out of range.

And I do hope nobody takes your recommendation to not try the Cisco Spec coil, because it is a WONDERFUL coil, even if the wraping of the wires isn't pretty. I can understand if it's not for you, but to impugn the craftsmanship based on your observations is a little unfair. You didn't follow the instructions to dilute, and my guess is you didn't do a slow ramp up in power as was suggested by others. I could be wrong, it seemed like you were teeing up to hate it.

That being said, I have one that I've been using since October of last year, it still vapes great... I have two that have been in since May, they vape great.But you have to use them like old school atomizers, not modern coils. They ARE a different beast. Inside the HH coil is pretty much the same thing as the HH357... so I'd suggest you avoid those as well.

SO... what's the Ω of the one you're using, and how many watts are you at? Call me curious... By the way, the regular nautilus coil is "shelled" as well. You just cant see it unless you tear it apart.


You don't know what you're talking about. I'm sitting here with it. This defective coil that you haven't seen.

There was a typo in the vg percentage was meant to be 60 and I hit 9 by mistake. There's no reason 60% vg wouldn't work. The old aspire coils could wick it. Nothing about silica fundamentally can't wick it. And the percentage difference from 50-60 is curtail my nothing. I also don't out coils in dry ever. So the silica was saturated. There's also no reason not to saturate silica unless it worry about flooding. I don't.

The coil I have is poorly build. My opinions are based On a ton of experience with products and vaping. I have the product here.

If you want to opine on your Cisco spec coils have at it. Don't question my knowledge anymore. Jair make your points on your merits.

Unless you want to say the kabuki is the issue ?

The first mount of the coil. Shorted. Two other devices. Shorted. The bottom was falling out. Placed hard in shorted. Realized the whole
Coil spun. After spinning and fiddling got it to register 1.17 which is much closer to 1.2 this the advertised 1 ohm. It fired twice at 3.4 volts. Below what a mostly drained battery puts out. Then showed shorted.

I typically avoid putting up Videos on YouTube showing poor results but in his case I may. Though j will make it viewable with link only so as not to cause harm to the vendor. It's a coil that costs $14 shipped and is based on the sample I received absolutely not worth it. If you have some that are. Good for you. Now people have two opinions on which they can form a decision. You built some vaping gear. Great. That doesn't mean everybody else doesn't know anything. My first vape was probably 9 years ago now. For what it's worth. Though my steady quit started two.

While we're asking questions j have a few for you I typically wouldn't ask these because is consider it rude or questioning our ethics be since you seem to hold nothing back

Do you know the people rebuilding these? Are they friends of yours?
Do you have financial interest in the company?
Do you sell them on your storefront.
What's your interest in their success ?
Would you tell us if any of the above but the site carrying them was true?

See asking stuff like that to draw you into question in fact defeats me with a fallacy. So I don't don't. My opinions are based on what I have right in front of me. It's great you have a couple
Good ones. Maybe they know who is are and qc is tighter for you. Want to order me one? Maybe I can get the good kind like you get.

This coil is something you know bsolutely nothing about (this specific coil). It's at my house.

I'll tear down a nautilus coil tomorrow. It's just about the only hit I haven't done in vaping besides manufacture a tank. Name anything else and ive done in up to and including building mods.

If discussing things about the nautilus coil or the kabuki tank means I have to keep
Putting up with this. I'll be out of the conversation and move on from the gear. It's not worth the bull.... attitude I'm getting. I'm just trying to help other people
Avoid wasting money or opine when something is worth it. If is been vaping two weeks I'd be qualified to do that. The fact I've owned a lot of gear and been filled with free time in which I've crammed a ton of hobbyist vaping just means it's more informed. For all we know I've tried three times as many products as you at his point. Maybe you just vape what you build ?

Oh and two more facts just to get then straight for those who may in fact he new and read misinformation.

Some Juice tastes better at higher watts / volts. Different flavors come out at different temps. So long as the coil can keep up with it you're probably not burning your juice before your coil. Here's no problem with most juices applying higher temps. Coils will be an issue long before that. Everyone should try different settings so long as you aren't crying coils. You may be shocked how much better it tastes higher or lower.

Coils that are very sloppily made and uneven heat at different levels throughout. This creates an issue of wicking isn't Rick solid and for dry burning. Building silica coils one usually uses a small needle or similar to form a spine allowing for more even wraps. And also if you touch the side of the casing with a coil. It's going to be a short.


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' I must be using it wrong' Were you on the apple or team during he iPhone antenna fiasco? Jeebus
 
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The uneven coils ice used have all heated unevenly and while that is largely irrelevant

If I did this correctly, here's a great link:

Tensioned Micro Coils. The next step.

Either you're welcome, or I'm sorry. Depends on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go...

Edit: ugh. I missed the point of the post and linked something irrelevant. Again. Well, this time I'm leaving it up. So there!

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That's interesting. If you use a coil wrapping tool and a couple
Pair of pliers out can get a really even coil Without any dry burning. For spaces coils I typically just ensure even spacing and legs along with height and diameter

Thanks for Posting that. As an aside to the kabuki I will read through it.

I actually prefer spaces coils unless I absolutely can't. Even with kanthal. I just find it a better vape and the coils last way longer. I feel
Like microcoils in general fit a specific need but aren't for everything.

Anyone had luck rinsing coils to clear out flavor or extend life? Not necessarily needed but some coils like the subtank of coils take to that relatively well. Hot as you can for 39 seconds followed by 30
Second cold followed by air dry for a day or two. Takes some Time to wick it back again but invent does usually fires like new. Anyone try that with the new nautilus coils? I've got one coil that had a flavor I didn't care for dominate it. Maybe I'll give it a shot
 
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That's interesting. If you use a coil wrapping tool and a couple
Pair of pliers out can get a really even coil Without any dry burning. For spaces coils I typically just ensure even spacing and legs along with height and diameter

Thanks for Posting that. As an aside to the kabuki I will read through it.

I actually prefer spaces coils unless I absolutely can't. Even with kanthal. I just find it a better vape and the coils last way longer. I feel
Like microcoils in general fit a specific need but aren't for everything.

Anyone had luck rinsing coils to clear out flavor or extend life? Not necessarily needed but some coils like the subtank of coils take to that relatively well. Hot as you can for 39 seconds followed by 30
Second cold followed by air dry for a day or two. Takes some Time to wick it back again but invent does usually fires like new. Anyone try that with the new nautilus coils? I've got one coil that had a flavor I didn't care for dominate it. Maybe I'll give it a shot
That's were I was too (spaced coils on a dark zero jig), until Russ and Mack converted me. Oooooh boy are you going to have fun!

As an aside, I just got in my first batches of epipemods shire malt and long bottom leaf. I threw the malt into the kabuki, and it is incredible! These wick EXTREMELY well for what I believe are low pg liquids (interpolated from the website).

The kabuki is perfect for an epipe. I sort of regret getting Z2 because now I have to mod my Gandalf to accept it. Ugh! To the boiler room! We have PROJECTS...


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The only Cisco Spec Nautie coils I care for are the 1.5ohm.

The 1ohm are squirrely in my experience.

The 2ohm are just blah imo.

The 1.5ohm are just right.

But.

You have to vape them within their limitations.

I can't use them at all for running around vaping during the day. They don't work for that for me.

I use them at home when I can give them the attention they need to bring the best out in them.

It's very similar to a dripping atty experience but with a tank.
 
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Yeah. You can't just slap them on and crank it up.

Also, while vaping you have to pay attention to what the atty is telling you it needs. It vapes at its own pace not yours.

That's the reason I have always found sound to be important. Not too long after I ripped off the blue foam cartridge to get to the atty, I figured out (all by myself ;)) that I could tell what was happening by listening. I've found that useful for almost all toppers, except carto tanks - especially bottom-feeders. I'm very grateful I was already vaping this way before I found ECF. I'm sure I would have been ridiculed as a misguided newbie.
 

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I've owned Three since God knows when although; a very long time for essentially a consumable. Still going strong. The 1.5 ohm jobbies seem to like it down around 3.7V iow, an old school, tight draw vape. If you don't keep it tight they will dry-hit. Using 70/30 pg vg juice.

Do you mean the regular Cisco (dripping) attys or the coil head thingys?
 
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You don't know what you're talking about. I'm sitting here with it.

There was a typo in the vg percentage was meant to be 60 and I hit 9 by mistake.

The coil I have is poorly build. My opinions are based On a ton of experience with products and vaping. I have the product here.

If you want to opine on your Cisco spec coils have at it. Don't question my knowledge anymore. Jair make your points on your merits.

Unless you want to say the kabuki is the issue ?

The first mount of the coil. Shorted. Two other devices. Shorted. The bottom was falling out. Placed hard in shorted. Realized the whole
Coil spun. After spinning and fiddling got it to register 1.17 which is much closer to 1.2 this the advertised 1 ohm. It fired twice at 3.4 volts. Below what a mostly drained battery puts out. Then showed shorted.

I typically avoid putting up Videos on YouTube showing poor results but in his case I may. Though j will make it viewable with link only so as not to cause harm to the vendor. It's a coil that costs $14 shipped and is based on the sample I received absolutely not worth it. If you have some that are. Good for you. Now people have two opinions on which they can form a decision. You built some vaping gear. Great. That doesn't mean everybody else doesn't know anything. My first vape was probably 9 years ago now. For what it's worth. Though my steady quit started two.

While we're asking questions j have a few for you I typically wouldn't ask these because is consider it rude or questioning our ethics be since you seem to hold nothing back

Do you know the people rebuilding these? Are they friends of yours?
Do you have financial interest in the company?
Do you sell them on your storefront.
What's your interest in their success ?

This coil is something you know bsolutely nothing about (this specific coil). It's at my house.

I'll tear down a nautilus coil tomorrow. It's just about the only hit I haven't done in vaping besides manufacture a tank. Name anything else and ive done in up to and including building mods.

If discussing things about the nautilus coil or the kabuki tank means I have to keep
Putting up with this. I'll be out of the conversation and move on from the gear. It's not worth the bull.... attitude I'm getting. I'm just trying to help other people
Avoid wasting money or opine when something is worth it. If is been vaping two weeks I'd be qualified to do that. The fact I've owned a lot of gear and been filled with free time in which I've crammed a ton of hobbyist vaping just means it's more informed. For all we know I've tried three times as many products as you at his point. Maybe you just vape what you build ?

Oh and two more facts just to get hen straight.

Some Juice tastes better at higher watts / volts. Different flavors come out at different temps. So long as the coil can keep up with it you're probably not burning your juice before your coil. Here's no problem with most juices applying higher temps. Coils will be an issue long before that.

Coils that are very sloppily made and uneven heat at different levels throughout. This creates an issue of wicking isn't Rick solid and for dry burning. Building silica coils one usually uses a small needle or similar to form a spine allowing for more even wraps. And also if you touch the side of the casing with a coil. It's going to be a short.


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h00ligan, give it a rest. Your attacks on Zen and others has reached the point where I don't like coming to this thread. From what I've learned from Zen has completely changed the way I do things, and as result vaping--and life too--have become much more enjoyable. I haven't saved any money in the short-run as I've bought a bunch of new eq. to follow Zen, but I believe in the long-run I will. So, please, stop trying to burn the man with every post.
 

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You also need an Honest-To-Dog drip tip as opposed to what we call a drip tip now.

In other words, a Cherry Vape Cannon!!! :rickroll: for the CISCO 306 1.5 ohm

Just went back to a Treasure Chest I received from former member juicejunky (boy I sure miss him!) and that's what I got. BEST drip tip ever.

Cannon | Drip Tips | E- | Cigs | Cigarettes | Cisco 306 | Cherry Vape

This is where I also get the opportunity to say that DC2 actually taught me to drip back in 2012, in a series of PMs. :)
 
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You don't know what you're talking about. I'm sitting here with it. This defective coil that you haven't seen.

There was a typo in the vg percentage was meant to be 60 and I hit 9 by mistake. There's no reason 60% vg wouldn't work. The old aspire coils could wick it. Nothing about silica fundamentally can't wick it. And the percentage difference from 50-60 is curtail my nothing. I also don't out coils in dry ever. So the silica was saturated. There's also no reason not to saturate silica unless it worry about flooding. I don't.

The coil I have is poorly build. My opinions are based On a ton of experience with products and vaping. I have the product here.

If you want to opine on your Cisco spec coils have at it. Don't question my knowledge anymore. Jair make your points on your merits.

Unless you want to say the kabuki is the issue ?

The first mount of the coil. Shorted. Two other devices. Shorted. The bottom was falling out. Placed hard in shorted. Realized the whole
Coil spun. After spinning and fiddling got it to register 1.17 which is much closer to 1.2 this the advertised 1 ohm. It fired twice at 3.4 volts. Below what a mostly drained battery puts out. Then showed shorted.

I typically avoid putting up Videos on YouTube showing poor results but in his case I may. Though j will make it viewable with link only so as not to cause harm to the vendor. It's a coil that costs $14 shipped and is based on the sample I received absolutely not worth it. If you have some that are. Good for you. Now people have two opinions on which they can form a decision. You built some vaping gear. Great. That doesn't mean everybody else doesn't know anything. My first vape was probably 9 years ago now. For what it's worth. Though my steady quit started two.

While we're asking questions j have a few for you I typically wouldn't ask these because is consider it rude or questioning our ethics be since you seem to hold nothing back

Do you know the people rebuilding these? Are they friends of yours?
Do you have financial interest in the company?
Do you sell them on your storefront.
What's your interest in their success ?
Would you tell us if any of the above but the site carrying them was true?

See asking stuff like that to draw you into question in fact defeats me with a fallacy. So I don't don't. My opinions are based on what I have right in front of me. It's great you have a couple
Good ones. Maybe they know who is are and qc is tighter for you. Want to order me one? Maybe I can get the good kind like you get.

This coil is something you know bsolutely nothing about (this specific coil). It's at my house.

I'll tear down a nautilus coil tomorrow. It's just about the only hit I haven't done in vaping besides manufacture a tank. Name anything else and ive done in up to and including building mods.

If discussing things about the nautilus coil or the kabuki tank means I have to keep
Putting up with this. I'll be out of the conversation and move on from the gear. It's not worth the bull.... attitude I'm getting. I'm just trying to help other people
Avoid wasting money or opine when something is worth it. If is been vaping two weeks I'd be qualified to do that. The fact I've owned a lot of gear and been filled with free time in which I've crammed a ton of hobbyist vaping just means it's more informed. For all we know I've tried three times as many products as you at his point. Maybe you just vape what you build ?

Oh and two more facts just to get then straight for those who may in fact he new and read misinformation.

Some Juice tastes better at higher watts / volts. Different flavors come out at different temps. So long as the coil can keep up with it you're probably not burning your juice before your coil. Here's no problem with most juices applying higher temps. Coils will be an issue long before that. Everyone should try different settings so long as you aren't crying coils. You may be shocked how much better it tastes higher or lower.

Coils that are very sloppily made and uneven heat at different levels throughout. This creates an issue of wicking isn't Rick solid and for dry burning. Building silica coils one usually uses a small needle or similar to form a spine allowing for more even wraps. And also if you touch the side of the casing with a coil. It's going to be a short.


Facts


' I must be using it wrong' Were you on the apple or team during he iPhone antenna fiasco? Jeebus
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 
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