Anybody Using A Kabuki?

[Vaper Bob]

Thanks for the link. It goes into great detail on the Quartz vs Steel vs Polycarb, and explains why Zen was dragged, kicking and screaming into the PC option. Which is a non-starter for me because I use a number of tank cracking juices. As is the steel option because I go through juice too fast and would be burning up coils.

However, it is strangely silent on the Pyrex option. I'd like to hear Zen's objection to that option, which seems to work with the rest of the tank universe, and work well without filling up threads with complaints about the tank

i would certainly like to hear why he chose Quartz over Pyrex.

 

[coolerat]

Thanks for the link. It goes into great detail on the Quartz vs Steel vs Polycarb, and explains why Zen was dragged, kicking and screaming into the PC option. Which is a non-starter for me because I use a number of tank cracking juices. As is the steel option because I go through juice too fast and would be burning up coils.

However, it is strangely silent on the Pyrex option. I'd like to hear Zen's objection to that option, which seems to work with the rest of the tank universe, and work well without filling up threads with complaints about the tank

He lives really close to Corning where Pyrex was invented and was once made. Maybe there is a back story.

 

[Vaper Bob]

He lives really close to Corning where Pyrex was invented and was once made. Maybe there is a back story.

This is getting more intriguing by the minute.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Not that you would notice...really - just a drop or two is all it takes

Some people in the DIY forum say that water will thin VG 4x more than an equivalent amount of PG.

 

[ENAUD]

However, it is strangely silent on the Pyrex option. I'd like to hear Zen's objection to that option, which seems to work with the rest of the tank universe, and work well without filling up threads with complaints about the tank

I believe the info you seek is already contained in this very thread...

 

[VNeil]

I believe the info you seek is already contained in this very thread...

I don't doubt it's somewhere in the 5,285 posts here...

 

[ENAUD]

I don't doubt it's somewhere in the 5,285 posts here...

Actually it seems I remembered incorrectly, from a different thread:

It's the same stuff... but you CAN get pyrex tanks from Spectrum if you prefer that material. I personally do not like pyrex.

and no explanation of the reason, interesting. The only quotes I could find by him in this thread pertaining to glass talked about reject rates on raw stock.

 

[VNeil]

Actually it seems I remembered incorrectly, from a different thread:

and no explanation of the reason, interesting. The only quotes I could find by him in this thread pertaining to glass talked about reject rates on raw stock.

I actually read that post when it was made. "I personally do not like pyrex" is not a very satisfactory explanation for why he uses obviously not fit for purpose materials. And that was in response to numerous reports of broken tanks, including tanks broken simply refilling (as apparently happened to me).

 

[AstroTurf]

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I know from his posts here that Zen likes his quartz, or doesn't like pyrex (for unspecified reasons?). At some point I hope he wakes up and realizes he has a problem. I'm going to buy some aftermarket pyrex tanks but for the price of these I should not have to resort to that. Nor anyone else.

I consider myself an HOH fan, but not a fanboi. I call it as I see 'em.

The reasons given were very specific...

I could list them, but I prefer that you find them for yourself.

Jim

 

[VNeil]

The reasons given were very specific...

I could list them, but I prefer that you find them for yourself.

Jim

Thanks for all the help

 

[AstroTurf]

Thanks for all the help

Attitude is Everything!!!

 

[AstroTurf]

Pyrex... It's not a very good tank material.

Quartz... Is a Very Good Tank Material!!!

Search Results for Query: pyrex | E-Cigarette Forum[user][0]=43967

Helpful? I think so.

Jim

PS Tact has gotten me much farther in life, than my opinion ever will.

 

[ENAUD]

I actually read that post when it was made. "I personally do not like pyrex" is not a very satisfactory explanation for why he uses obviously not fit for purpose materials. And that was in response to numerous reports of broken tanks, including tanks broken simply refilling (as apparently happened to me).

I make my own tanks from Polycarbonate tubing.

 

[tearose50]

Hmm -- quartz vs pyrex tm

Here's an old post from the Bedazzled thread that might be of interest. I do believe this vendor uses Quartz most of the time these days, too.

Noooooo!! LOL thank you for fixing that for me. I will edit my post

Let me shoot this over to a scientific glassblower and maybe he can clean up the explanation a bit if anyone if interested

This is what I have been told regarding the differences.

"Quartz has a lower coefficient of expansion. Basically it can be heated and cooled more rapidly without the stress causing a shatter. Both are very resistant to thermal shock, but quartz is much more resistant. On the other hand quartz is also more brittle making it much more apt to breaking due to physical shock."

 

[VNeil]

The fact is, there are more broken Kabuki tanks than any other tank I've ever heard of. Other tank makers manage to make glass tanks that don't break. Zen can't. Or won't.

 

[AstroTurf]

The fact is, there are more broken Kabuki tanks than any other tank I've ever heard of. Other tank makers manage to make glass tanks that don't break. Zen can't. Or won't.

Doin a lil fishin are we?!?

Too Funny!!!

 

[VNeil]

Doin a lil fishin are we?!?

Too Funny!!!

I'm not fishing. I'm expressing my dissatisfaction with my purchase. Which is a waste of time in Fan Boy city here. I'm out of here.

 

[ScandaLeX]

The fact is, there are more broken Kabuki tanks than any other tank I've ever heard of. Other tank makers manage to make glass tanks that don't break. Zen can't. Or won't.

Doin a lil fishin are we?!?

Too Funny!!!

I don't think he's fishing at all. It's sad around here when a person cannot express their displeasure over a product they purchased (& not a cheap product I might add) without being made to look like some sort of clown. It's this very behavior that has driven many from what amounts to "fan" threads for actual threads in which they can express themselves without someone throwing shade!

[IMO] There is NOTHING amazing about the Kabuki. It's an $85 tank that takes Nautilus coils. Oh wow!

How many more tanks need to break before someone realizes these aren't just isolated issues. Apparently there is a problem. Hell, I used to work in manufacturing so it wouldn't surprise me if every Kabuki tank wasn't made to spec!

 

[tearose50]

Personally, I've used both "pyrex" and quartz tubes and have had them both break on occasion. Recently a 3 foot fall onto tile was just too much for that quartz tank to handle. However, a very wide walled pyrex (on an earlier similar sized tank) did the same thing with a similar fall.

I strongly disagree that there is a problem with the Kabuki glass. I think one break in 5 months is pretty darn good for the various oops this vaper can have with her gear.

Back to differences in the types of glass --

Like much, there are various opinions on the type of glass used for our tanks. I found this quote from IB Tanked and thought it may be of interest here as it clearly says that all "pyrex" is not the same. As I understand is, borosilicate is the glass we loosely call pyrex.

"Not all borosilicate is equal, there are maybe only a handful of manufacturers who produce high quality borosilicate glass. Ours is produced by Simax and they are regarded as well as it gets in glass tubing. Most borosilicate glass of chinese origin is not considered as a quality product in dimensional consistency, true borosilicate component ratio or annealing which is where stress is relieved from the glass and a big part of where its strength comes from so its impossible to tell what you will get from one lot to the next."

I've read that sentiment a few times from various people during my vaping adventures. It helps explain how FT glass is often not as durable as other offerings.

Here's the whole thread that quote is from, if anyone wants to read this view in detail:

The Glass Facts

 

[gin828]

The fact is, there are more broken Kabuki tanks than any other tank I've ever heard of. Other tank makers

The fact is, there are more broken Kabuki tanks than any other tank I've ever heard of. Other tank makers manage to make glass tanks that don't break. Zen can't. Or won't.

If you have a better design let's hear it......Can you find a way to protect the glass any better then the way Zen designed it? Can't be done with out changing the specs or driving price up.