Anybody Using A Kabuki?
- Thread starter jwbnyc
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
It depends on the juice and viscosity. For instance, on average, when using Milkman or Churrios (both Max VG juices @ a claimed 99% VG), a coil lasts me about 4-5 Kabuki tanks before I have to toss it, so roughly 12-15ML before it's junk. When using old-school original Halo, or something that's 50/50 or 70/30 (pg/vg), then the coils tend to last for weeks and I lose track of when the last time I changed them was.
Then, like @AstroTurf said, how sweet is it? This thing here (which is just f-----g awesome BTW, and probably contains so much DA/AP that it makes 5 pawns seem healthy), will destroy a coil in 1 tank (literally, that's it, you get 3-5ML before it's burnt).
I am using the Nautilus BVC coils.
I agree
When I was using eliquids that were higher % in flavor my coils only lasted a few tanks, if that, now that I only use a hint of flavoring and all of my eliquids are crystal clear I can easily get a few weeks or more from a coil.
It could also be since you are using a high VG eliquid the coil is not keeping up, wicking up the eliquid as fast as you are vaping it, and you are vaping your coils just short of dry and burning the cotton.
A repost of the video:
I had the coil-sticking-in-chimney problem early on with the 510 and, on occasion, the P3 Kabuki.
All I can say is that making sure the coil was in the base tightly, and backing the coil around until it clicked into the chimney threads before screwing it in fully, solved the problem.
I use one of those rubber jar opener clothes, or a piece of paper towel, to get a good grip on the coil, and screw it down as tightly as possible.
Seems to be working.
I had the coil-sticking-in-chimney problem early on with the 510 and, on occasion, the P3 Kabuki.
All I can say is that making sure the coil was in the base tightly, and backing the coil around until it clicked into the chimney threads before screwing it in fully, solved the problem.
I use one of those rubber jar opener clothes, or a piece of paper towel, to get a good grip on the coil, and screw it down as tightly as possible.
Seems to be working.
Last edited:
Even when my coils gunk up I just dry burn them, rewick & back in business. It'll be months before I need to change a coil but the wick....whew baby....that's every other day depending on what I'm vaping with.I agree
How many mls per day? I like to know how many mls vs how many days because there is a huge variance in volume of juice consumed by users.
One thing you can try, is to add a few drops of distilled water to your juice. some DIY'ers add 5%, more or less distilled water to max VG recipes to thin it out. Water thins e-juice way more than PG does so a little goes a long way, Maybe try two or three drops to a tank and shake it up really good and see if you get any improvement.
That said, My tobacco juices can kill a coil in three days of heavy vaping if using one setup, this is with about ten mls per day. not too bad really for a wick to get saturated with whatever stuff doesn't get vaporized and remains to clog the wick and gunk the coil. If I travel I either vape unflavored, or alternate between flavored and unflavored and can get maybe five days before the burnt taste and vapor drop off occur. When at home running multiple setups, I have to go solely on taste, and I will usually try a tank of unflavored to see if the coil comes around before yanking it and tossing in the trash.
My juice costs pennies per 30 ml bottle, so the coils are my biggest expense. 2$ over three days I can live with.
Wow. 6mg is their highest strength? Oh dear.
I agree with all of you. The lighter, less flavored liquids do tend to be more coil friendly. One of my flava flaves is delish but kills koils very kwickly. Another (same vendor) is light and bright and so good, and hardly mars a coil at all! When I was using kartos, even after a few weeks, if I vaped it down to nothingness, that karto was bright white like the day I first filled it.
A trick to help in the stuck coil in chimney problem. Yes, screwing the coil into the base tightly, will really help. Problem is, different bases have the contact penn different depths of tightness.
Do NOT fully tighten the coil into the base until you Do This. Especially for the first time, or if you have been having the problem of the coil sticking in the chimney.
Try this. Loosen the contact penn in the bottom of the Kabuki Base. Now screw the coil into the base tightly, then, and "only then", tighten the contact penn only until it lightly makes contact. NO FURTHER!!!
This will give a good solid seating into the base of the Kabuki, and give good electrical contact, yet make taking the base our to device, usually keep the coil in the base as intended.
Knife
P.S. This method will also prevent the backing out of the delrin base insert that some here have had happen. If the delrin is backing out, the screw penn is far too tight!
Do NOT fully tighten the coil into the base until you Do This. Especially for the first time, or if you have been having the problem of the coil sticking in the chimney.
Try this. Loosen the contact penn in the bottom of the Kabuki Base. Now screw the coil into the base tightly, then, and "only then", tighten the contact penn only until it lightly makes contact. NO FURTHER!!!
This will give a good solid seating into the base of the Kabuki, and give good electrical contact, yet make taking the base our to device, usually keep the coil in the base as intended.
Knife
P.S. This method will also prevent the backing out of the delrin base insert that some here have had happen. If the delrin is backing out, the screw penn is far too tight!
I probably go through 2 full tanks on my Kabuki before I start getting a burnt taste. Even if I let it sit once I get the burnt taste it just gets worse and worse. And I am not chain vaping. I vape 0mg nic and the juice is clear but I am guessing its the max VG. So maybe I need to try thinning it out. All my juice is pretty much max VG. Heck I dont even know where to get 50/50 except at a local vape shop.
So if I use a 2-3 drops of water per tank this might solve it? And does it have to be distilled water?
As of right now my three Kabuki tanks are just sitting and getting no use until I solve this issue because I am going through coils way too fast.
Give Vape Wild a call, and check out their web site. They are at a show in London first of the week, but they are a Texas based Co. Excellent liquids, and very reasonable in cost. You can have it any way you want it form them!
I've used a LOT of suppliers, and they are my main go to now days. Never found anyone else so easy to deal with.
I really enjoy their "On Cloud Custard", but only get 4-5 days on a coil with it. My wife uses their Candy Cane, and a coil last for weeks on it!
When I mix their Strawberry cream with the On Cloud Custard, it will add a few days to the coil. And really boost the flavor. It is listed as (S+C)2
Knife
I've used a LOT of suppliers, and they are my main go to now days. Never found anyone else so easy to deal with.
I really enjoy their "On Cloud Custard", but only get 4-5 days on a coil with it. My wife uses their Candy Cane, and a coil last for weeks on it!
When I mix their Strawberry cream with the On Cloud Custard, it will add a few days to the coil. And really boost the flavor. It is listed as (S+C)2
Knife
I find that cheaper liquids kill my coils faster. Dont know why that is. If they are really dark they are gone in one tank, if they are really sweet gone in one tank. so i think it is about how you vape as well as the liquid itself.
80VG - 7.4 watts max, NO BOOST or it starts to taste burnt and that's on a HH rebuild. I'm never going that high of VG again.
So reading back you are using 80/20 VG/PG at 11 watts and coils taste burnt after about 5 mls. I'd get pretty frustrated myself.
Things you can control,
-Authentic coils?,
- power, try lowering the power, maybe start out at 7.5 watts and slowly work your way up.
-juice, try thinning for better wicking, tap water maybe in a pinch, (there are minerals and other chemicals in municipal water, distilled costs about a buck for a gallon).
- last ditch juice idea, get some unflavored base, and cut the juice you are having issues with killing your coils to 50/50 with some unflavored base. If it's max VG there's a really good chance you are vaping 20% flavoring. If the flavoring is the issue you might double the life of the coils.
hope something helps, good luck.
This is an interesting topic and one I've given a lot of thought to.
First, I don't consider coil life as a yes/no thing. There's that wonderful hit and flavor you get on a new coil. That gradually deteriorates into somethng that's acceptable and very good but not the great performance with the first tank or so. I get a tank or two on the first stage and about a week on the second until I get unacceptable taste or sometimes the dreaded gurgles.
Second, I vape naturally extracted tobaccos almost exclusively so I'm resigned to fairly short coil life. And third I have quite a few Kabukis in use right now and though the flavor is uniformly wonderful, different tanks act in various manners.
At one time I consistently had the problem of the coils staying in the chimney when the tank was filled. I did indeed try to just look at this as a plus with the additional volume of juice. But I absolutely could not get past the reassembly. For some reason, it just felt much more vague and I couldn't tell positively that the coil head was properly seated in the base. Though they always screwed back together, the feeling that I was cross threading just made me grit my teeth.
After using the technique that Knife mentions (tightening the coil as much as possible), I don't have much of a problem any longer. But the interesting thing is that at this point it only happens on one of the Kabukis and it happens every time. I can't see any difference with the problem tank and it's just not enough of a problem for me to bother Zen.
I guess my biggest problem right now is that I'm getting a lot more bad coils than ever before. LIke many others here, I stocked up during the Black Friday sales from reputable sellers with genuine goods. But in the last three boxes, I've had at least one coil that just wasn't right. Some started giving burned taste after having been fine the day before (and without any changes in juice or power). Others spit back and gurgled within a few hits and none of the changes I'd make would make any difference. And I've had two that were flamethrowers - putting out incredibly hot vapes no matter what the setting. All were 1.8 ohms and were read correctly by the mod.
And finally, I've used the coils with break in and without. I honestly can't tell a difference as long as I'm sure that the coil is primed.
Just one user's opinion on all of this and I'm sure other have found things differently.
Edit: I forgot to mention that I've tried 2 or 3 HH357 coils and can't get them to work. When setting at the relatively low power level I get weak taste. Bumping the power slightly gets a burnt taste. I really wish I could be able to use these.
First, I don't consider coil life as a yes/no thing. There's that wonderful hit and flavor you get on a new coil. That gradually deteriorates into somethng that's acceptable and very good but not the great performance with the first tank or so. I get a tank or two on the first stage and about a week on the second until I get unacceptable taste or sometimes the dreaded gurgles.
Second, I vape naturally extracted tobaccos almost exclusively so I'm resigned to fairly short coil life. And third I have quite a few Kabukis in use right now and though the flavor is uniformly wonderful, different tanks act in various manners.
At one time I consistently had the problem of the coils staying in the chimney when the tank was filled. I did indeed try to just look at this as a plus with the additional volume of juice. But I absolutely could not get past the reassembly. For some reason, it just felt much more vague and I couldn't tell positively that the coil head was properly seated in the base. Though they always screwed back together, the feeling that I was cross threading just made me grit my teeth.
After using the technique that Knife mentions (tightening the coil as much as possible), I don't have much of a problem any longer. But the interesting thing is that at this point it only happens on one of the Kabukis and it happens every time. I can't see any difference with the problem tank and it's just not enough of a problem for me to bother Zen.
I guess my biggest problem right now is that I'm getting a lot more bad coils than ever before. LIke many others here, I stocked up during the Black Friday sales from reputable sellers with genuine goods. But in the last three boxes, I've had at least one coil that just wasn't right. Some started giving burned taste after having been fine the day before (and without any changes in juice or power). Others spit back and gurgled within a few hits and none of the changes I'd make would make any difference. And I've had two that were flamethrowers - putting out incredibly hot vapes no matter what the setting. All were 1.8 ohms and were read correctly by the mod.
And finally, I've used the coils with break in and without. I honestly can't tell a difference as long as I'm sure that the coil is primed.
Just one user's opinion on all of this and I'm sure other have found things differently.
Edit: I forgot to mention that I've tried 2 or 3 HH357 coils and can't get them to work. When setting at the relatively low power level I get weak taste. Bumping the power slightly gets a burnt taste. I really wish I could be able to use these.
Wow, that sucks. I don't have a problem with HH coils except for this 80VG and like I said, @ 7.4 watts, this J.C. Baked Apples is kicking my 
!
At $100, you certainly are not going to bother Zen, especially with a phone call.
!At $100, you certainly are not going to bother Zen, especially with a phone call.
Yes that is correct. At this rate I am going through a lot of coils. It is indeed frustrating. I am using authentic nautilus BVC 1.8 coils. I think the max VG I am using is causing my problem. I found a 50/50 juice I will try and see how that does I just have to make sure I have enough of it to try.
I think if the Nautilus coils had larger wicking holes I wouldn't have such a hard time but who knows. Its just annoying because I love both of my Radius/Kabuki combos but for right now they are just sitting until I sort this out. I know I need to try and different juice too
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
