We're all just hedging our bets, who knows, maybe one or more of the lawsuits will render the deeming unenforceable. In that case, it's like paying for insurance that you never collect on, money spent for peace of mind. I'm OK with that.
Anybody Using A Kabuki?
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My wife hits a Nautilus like Cheech and Chong on a .... You get the idea.
I get a week out of a coil at least and she might get 2 days. My 100 coil stash ain't gonna last even a year.If the coils were around $0.50 like I think they should be, I would buy 1000. I can't justify buying a few grand worth of coils. Too hard to click order now even under $2 each. YMMV...
Exactly. Worst case personally? Maybe I avoid buying the latest and greatest new tanks or mods if innovation continues. Who cares? I almost never vape over 35w.
I would still bet large that there will be no sub-$100 liters of 100mg nic in 2 years (or likely a lot sooner) though.
If I'm completely out to lunch and blem Radius and Procyons as being blown out for $19.95 in a couple years, cool.
My I ask why you gave up. Here's why I gave up.
I bought 2 of the current versions. One I had working really good in a Nauty-mini w/ a vertical coil, decent vapor and taste.
The other in a full size Nauty I could not get working ... always gurgled and/or flooded. I don't know if it was the tank or the deck.
So I took the decent working one from the Nauty-mini and tried w/ one of my Kabuki (not a clone). I could not get the deck's top threads to engage and screw into the 'tube' in the tank properly. It would alway go in crooked. Wound up w/ juice all over.
I then took the tank off and just kept trying, and trying, and trying to get it to screw in properly w/o cocking a tad and cross threading and getting stuck.
After 15 or 20 minutes of just trying to get it to screw in I figured even if I did, I'd never be able to do it with the tank on and trying to seat it properly and turn it to pull the o-ring into the tank, etc.
I didn't buy this to use w/ Nauty tanks, the eBay listing mentioned 'Kabuki'. Off to the parts box it went.
Leaking and flooding predominantly. Also, coil installation isn't fun at all. Just not worth the effort IMO. If i really need to build it, I will but I prefer something easy to build on like a Kayfun. Hell, even the tiny Kanger and Crown RBAs are a walk in the park compared to the VVTF.
It may WORK for some, but anyone that actually prefers it to blister pack Nauti coils or building on a different device is more of a vaping master (or sucker for punishment) than I ever will!
P.s. I didn't bother trying it in one of my Nautilus tanks as I doubt I would be using them in the future. I had 5 and am down to 3 as a couple cacked recently (screwed up base, stripped threading, etc.). These RBAs were for my Kabukis.
Me too! I must be a NIC hoarder as I even have 3 humidors full of Cubans (I smoke a few a year and don't inhale.One way or another, it's guaranteed that I won't pay another penny in nicotine taxes
) so I won't even pay future cigar taxes. 
Leaking and flooding predominantly. Also, coil installation isn't fun at all. Just not worth the effort IMO. If i really need to build it, I will but I prefer something easy to build on like a Kayfun. Hell, even the tiny Kanger and Crown RBAs are a walk in the park compared to the VVTF.
It may WORK for some, but anyone that actually prefers it to blister pack Nauti coils or building on a different device is more of a vaping master (or sucker for punishment) than I ever will!
P.s. I didn't bother trying it in one of my Nautilus tanks as I doubt I would be using them in the future. I had 5 and am down to 3 as a couple cacked recently (screwed up base, stripped threading, etc.). These RBAs were for my Kabukis.
Thanks ... I only tried them in the Nauty's to start out ... they were intended for our Kabuki's. The worse part were those dang tiny grub screws. Just had enough of a slot to 'see it'. Could not get a good bite on 'em to tighten them. I had them come loose a couple-few times and change Ωs or not work at all. Luckily it was usually the exposed one so I could re-tighten it w/o taking the wick out.
those screws are a joke. I swapped the bottom one out for one of the included Phillips screws. Worked a bit better.
I would NEVER recommend these to anyone. Imagine if this was the only vape coil/RBA available? We'd all be smoking. Be easier to cultivate your own tobacco and spin your own cigs.
I am kinda joking, but not really. These are not practical for likely 99% of vapers out there.
10 years is a great outlook, jwb. DPL and I have discussed it a time or 7, and we both feel (not know, of course) that it will be a 3 to 5 year blip, but common sense MUST prevail. If we don't get to common sense on THIS issue....... mamma mia......
Differing from you tho...... we're using the pop ins as a luxury vape, and the RBs as the daily vapes. But that could change tomorrow.
With what you went thru, Mike, and many of the other reporters of VVTF building, I just looked at mine in horror. I still say thank you thank you thank you to the stealthy member who gifted me one of these...... or maybe he hates me!!!!!
Mine went straight into the.....
OMG, I have no idea what I did with it....
I did battle with one of those lil monsters for the better part of six hours when they first arrived. I got one to provide an "OK" vape but at the cost of several hours of my life? Ah....No. I was looking for a muzzle to shove them down by the time I was done with the first build attempt. And besides, I look horrid in those jeweler's glasses
Hey folks, been a while.
Just picked up my 3rd kabuki, and it should be getting here soon. I use a bf dripper 99% of the time, and use my kabuki's as my inside/stealth vapes. I run a coil for about a week or two with some fantastic N.E.T.s, and swap it out.
I've been rebuilding since August 27 2014 - the day I quit. KFL+s, cyclones, Derringers, vaper v4s, zau, et cetera. Some quite small and difficult.
I still find the VVTF coils almost impossible to wick and coil consistently. I tried a few times and shelved them.
Imho, they are not worth the effort while coils are available. The key I've found is only having one kabuki in service at a time. Use rebuildables with UFNB for most of your day, and enjoy the kabuki with some tasty juice as a treat each night.
Operating in this way, even my meager stash of coils will last quite some time...
Fortune favors the Bottom Feeders.
Just picked up my 3rd kabuki, and it should be getting here soon. I use a bf dripper 99% of the time, and use my kabuki's as my inside/stealth vapes. I run a coil for about a week or two with some fantastic N.E.T.s, and swap it out.
I've been rebuilding since August 27 2014 - the day I quit. KFL+s, cyclones, Derringers, vaper v4s, zau, et cetera. Some quite small and difficult.
I still find the VVTF coils almost impossible to wick and coil consistently. I tried a few times and shelved them.
Imho, they are not worth the effort while coils are available. The key I've found is only having one kabuki in service at a time. Use rebuildables with UFNB for most of your day, and enjoy the kabuki with some tasty juice as a treat each night.
Operating in this way, even my meager stash of coils will last quite some time...
Fortune favors the Bottom Feeders.
I didn't mean to turn this into a sub-thread on the VVTF. I came here re: the VVTF because my interest using it w/ a Kabuki not a Nauty tank. Seems I'm surely not alone w/ the frustration of getting it built and to vape decently.
On the plus side I did get a prompt reply from Tntu (the Ebay seller). In my message I had told him I couldn't get it threaded even w/ the tank removed.
"Many people have tried on it, no problem with it.
Pls try again, remove the glass and try, add some oil, make it straight to screw in this is very very important, cuz the screw thread have high and low two sides"
On the plus side
I did get a prompt reply from Tntu (the Ebay seller). In my message I had told him I couldn't get it threaded even w/ the tank removed. "Many people have tried on it, no problem with it.
Pls try again, remove the glass and try, add some oil, make it straight to screw in this is very very important, cuz the screw thread have high and low two sides"
Good to hear that everyone is getting their proper orders, I've pretty much switched over to sweet vapes for my Nauti and BVC clearo coils, their everyday price is really fair, and I keep my orders to like 4-5 packs at a time. I'll keep oredering them on a monthly basis as long as they are around. I've been getting nic from MFS in 120 and 250 ml sizes because it's already in glass so I can just pop it in the freezer. I don't need any more nic though, unless I plan on going into business on the side
I get liters in glass from them, Duane. They sell it.
Black Market ENAUD? I like it.
LOL, yeah, but when you only filling nooks and crannies in a freezer, it's just easier to buy the smaller bottles. That, and I really don't care about the price at the current rates, a 120ml bottle lasts me about 9 months. That's less than ten cents per day
I didn't mean to turn this into a sub-thread on the VVTF. I came here re: the VVTF because my interest using it w/ a Kabuki not a Nauty tank. Seems I'm surely not alone w/ the frustration of getting it built and to vape decently.
On the plus side
"Many people have tried on it, no problem with it.
Pls try again, remove the glass and try, add some oil, make it straight to screw in this is very very important, cuz the screw thread have high and low two sides"
Mike, before giving up, try this with the coil.
Most of us know to turn a coil counter clockwise to engage the threading. For the ReBuildable, don't worry about it being straight. Once you hear the click of the threads engaging, keep turning it anticlockwise. You will hear a second click. Almost there! One more time, and it will fully seat into the threads.
You Must do this with slight downward pressure on the base, and remove the drip tip, to have a steady tank on a solid surface.
Once you hear the third click, now turn it clockwise, The base will already have dropped far down into the tank, and only require apx. 2 turns or less to fully seat if done correctly. The compares to 12-13 turns for the Nauti Coil.
To cure the leaking and gurgling, fully fill the channels in the bottom of the rebuildable. The cotton in this rba, has to be tighter than any rba I have ever built. To the point you would think it would cause burning of the wicking material. But it just keeps on vaping!
When I first started building it, a wick would last two days. Now tightly filled, it will last two weeks or more!
Far longer than any factory coil has ever lasted me. And now no cost for coils, Regardless of what the nazi's do, the RBA Coils will keep on, keep'n on. ;-)
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Thanks for the tip. Next time I need to refill the Kabuki I'll give it a try to get the threads to engage. I'm not unfamiliar w/ nuts & bolts. I was a competent auto mechanic but this deck & threading had me going for sure. Honestly though I'm have a bit angst thinking how it could be done with the tank on and trying to get the assembly seated 'in the washer' and turning anti- then clockwise. But I'm game to give it a go.
I agree totally about packing that cotton into the channels, I cut it a little long and fold it back on itself while packing it in there, and do this with the cotton being dry. I also had the wick a little thicker than I would normally use, so it was tight inside the coil. The flavor and vapor production was spot on. No dry hits, and no gurgles.
Thanks for that info. I was going to call them about Liters in glass. If it doesn't look things are going to change by mid July, I'm going to need 8 liters of 100mg nic to last Jackie and I 40 years...
After I have 8 liters in the freezer, I can worry about the rest later...
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