Anybody Using A Kabuki?

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DPLongo22

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Sooooo...tinkerer I've been sarvo..oops sorry for the aussie slang, "sarvo" translates to "This afternoon" lol
Drank 3 beers before I started to help settle my shaky hands...didn't help with the end result :facepalm:


Your wish is my command Kat :)

getting my stuff organised to make a start


using a bolt to roll an evenly spaced coil with an inside diameter of 2.5mm (stock coil is 2mm ID) I've only got 28 gauge kanthal which is a bit thicker than the stock coil so number of winds and resistance will need to be adjusted as I go..


original coil compared to the new one




the thin piece of cotton that wraps the smaller part of the coil body to control the juice flow through the wicking holes.
This was almost impossible to reinstall so I decided to leave it out in the end, the reason being my wicking problems seem to come from the combination of tiny wicking holes and this relatively dense layer of fabric not allowing the juice through fast enough to keep up with the coil/cotton




my strip of cotton cut wider than needed to compensate for the exclusion of the wicking hole fabric




wires bent, coil wrapped, ready for installation into the main body


the coil and wicking wrapped around the threads of the bolt allowed easy peasy installation into the main body of the coil housing




coil legs positioned and grommet etc installed. including original wire mesh anti spit screen.




End result was a coil that my Provari read as 1.8ohm, and for the first cuppa hits everything worked perfectly. Fantastic flavour. No problems......but then the gurgling started and the coil got drowned to the point where it was un-vapeable.

So that small tube of fabric/cotton that controls the juice flow through the wicking holes is obviously much more important than I gave it credit.

Lesson learnt. Next build attempt will be different and Will include this omitted part.
I should have known better, but I went with my gut feeling which turned out to be wrong, and I'm not ashamed to admit my mistake.
I can't learn anything without trying lol

Thanks All for your interest :)



ROFLMAO umm no you reeeeally don't want to see a video of the above process. I was in hysterics a few times thinking about how ridiculous I would have looked fiddle farting around with all those tiny little components.
If you were a "fly on the wall" watching my old man ineptitude you would have been in stitches :lol:

That's absolutely fantastic , and is the best such pictorial guide I've ever seen.

THANKS!
 

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I forgot how much I love this setup. I also forgot how much my fire button has been sticking badly. That being said I contacted Provape a few days ago and sent it in for fixing before the 1 year warranty runs out. Hopefully it will be back home soon.


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I forgot how much I love this setup. I also forgot how much my fire button has been sticking badly. That being said I contacted Provape a few days ago and sent it in for fixing before the 1 year warranty runs out. Hopefully it will be back home soon.


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Hey, Donny. It's good to see you, and I hope all is well.
 

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Sooooo...tinkerer I've been sarvo..oops sorry for the aussie slang, "sarvo" translates to "This afternoon" lol
Drank 3 beers before I started to help settle my shaky hands...didn't help with the end result :facepalm:


Your wish is my command Kat :)

getting my stuff organised to make a start


using a bolt to roll an evenly spaced coil with an inside diameter of 2.5mm (stock coil is 2mm ID) I've only got 28 gauge kanthal which is a bit thicker than the stock coil so number of winds and resistance will need to be adjusted as I go..


original coil compared to the new one




the thin piece of cotton that wraps the smaller part of the coil body to control the juice flow through the wicking holes.
This was almost impossible to reinstall so I decided to leave it out in the end, the reason being my wicking problems seem to come from the combination of tiny wicking holes and this relatively dense layer of fabric not allowing the juice through fast enough to keep up with the coil/cotton




my strip of cotton cut wider than needed to compensate for the exclusion of the wicking hole fabric




wires bent, coil wrapped, ready for installation into the main body


the coil and wicking wrapped around the threads of the bolt allowed easy peasy installation into the main body of the coil housing




coil legs positioned and grommet etc installed. including original wire mesh anti spit screen.




End result was a coil that my Provari read as 1.8ohm, and for the first cuppa hits everything worked perfectly. Fantastic flavour. No problems......but then the gurgling started and the coil got drowned to the point where it was un-vapeable.

So that small tube of fabric/cotton that controls the juice flow through the wicking holes is obviously much more important than I gave it credit.

Lesson learnt. Next build attempt will be different and Will include this omitted part.
I should have known better, but I went with my gut feeling which turned out to be wrong, and I'm not ashamed to admit my mistake.
I can't learn anything without trying lol

Thanks All for your interest :)



ROFLMAO umm no you reeeeally don't want to see a video of the above process. I was in hysterics a few times thinking about how ridiculous I would have looked fiddle farting around with all those tiny little components.
If you were a "fly on the wall" watching my old man ineptitude you would have been in stitches :lol:

In a word - WOW!!!!!!!

Blokey, you definitely went above and beyond the call of duty here. THAT'S a MARVELOUS pictorial, and sooooooooo well done! Thank you VERY much!

I know we all appreciate it and want you to know that. Obviously that took quite some time and effort, so truly, to you, major thanks.

:toast:

And, of course, we'll be interested to follow your progress with future builds.
 

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In a word - WOW!!!!!!!

Blokey, you definitely went above and beyond the call of duty here. THAT'S a MARVELOUS pictorial, and sooooooooo well done! Thank you VERY much!

I know we all appreciate it and want you to know that. Obviously that took quite some time and effort, so truly, to you, major thanks.

:toast:

And, of course, we'll be interested to follow your progress with future builds.

Especially considering that she & I get stressed just taking mod pics for classy ads. :lol:

Flippin' marvelous work, NO doubt.

GO DOLPHINS!!! :cool::D

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Nicely Done!!!

Thanks and a video would be great.

That's absolutely fantastic , and is the best such pictorial guide I've ever seen.

THANKS!

In a word - WOW!!!!!!!

Blokey, you definitely went above and beyond the call of duty here. THAT'S a MARVELOUS pictorial, and sooooooooo well done! Thank you VERY much!

I know we all appreciate it and want you to know that. Obviously that took quite some time and effort, so truly, to you, major thanks.

:toast:

And, of course, we'll be interested to follow your progress with future builds.

Wow Thanks for the show of appreciation, and also Thanks to the many of you who "liked" my post. It gave me the warm and fuzzies, and I feel a bit humbled :blush:

You guys Rock!

Phil :)
 

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Sooooo...tinkerer I've been sarvo..oops sorry for the aussie slang, "sarvo" translates to "This afternoon" lol
Drank 3 beers before I started to help settle my shaky hands...didn't help with the end result :facepalm:


Your wish is my command Kat :)

getting my stuff organised to make a start


using a bolt to roll an evenly spaced coil with an inside diameter of 2.5mm (stock coil is 2mm ID) I've only got 28 gauge kanthal which is a bit thicker than the stock coil so number of winds and resistance will need to be adjusted as I go..


original coil compared to the new one




the thin piece of cotton that wraps the smaller part of the coil body to control the juice flow through the wicking holes.
This was almost impossible to reinstall so I decided to leave it out in the end, the reason being my wicking problems seem to come from the combination of tiny wicking holes and this relatively dense layer of fabric not allowing the juice through fast enough to keep up with the coil/cotton




my strip of cotton cut wider than needed to compensate for the exclusion of the wicking hole fabric




wires bent, coil wrapped, ready for installation into the main body


the coil and wicking wrapped around the threads of the bolt allowed easy peasy installation into the main body of the coil housing




coil legs positioned and grommet etc installed. including original wire mesh anti spit screen.




End result was a coil that my Provari read as 1.8ohm, and for the first cuppa hits everything worked perfectly. Fantastic flavour. No problems......but then the gurgling started and the coil got drowned to the point where it was un-vapeable.

So that small tube of fabric/cotton that controls the juice flow through the wicking holes is obviously much more important than I gave it credit.

Lesson learnt. Next build attempt will be different and Will include this omitted part.
I should have known better, but I went with my gut feeling which turned out to be wrong, and I'm not ashamed to admit my mistake.
I can't learn anything without trying lol

Thanks All for your interest :)



ROFLMAO umm no you reeeeally don't want to see a video of the above process. I was in hysterics a few times thinking about how ridiculous I would have looked fiddle farting around with all those tiny little components.
If you were a "fly on the wall" watching my old man ineptitude you would have been in stitches :lol:

Good on ya iBloke! You've inspired me to give it a shot this weekend.
 

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Wonderful Pic's!

Next build, try some KGD cotton, and use the outside skin it has for the part of the cotton that touches the holes. I peel a piece off, and wrap it around so that it goes over the outside wire for added insulation from the body. Not needed, but does press it against the holes well. The inside skin stops the cotton from getting in between the coil wires.

Great effort!!! ;) (These self wrap coils work really well with thick VG liquids)., Seems to not have the flooding issues thin liquid has, but does not burn as easily as factory coils with thick liquids.

I doubt that many here will be trying it, as no one here liked the rebuildable deck for the Kabuki's, which is a heck of alot easier than what you just accomplished. Congrats!

Lov'n the rebuildable decks. Have 5 more coming next week. But the threads absolutely have to be polished, as they are not quite correct, and are a pain to install until polished.

No one here liked them, so I offered to buy any anyone wanted to get rid of. No takers though. Sadly enough.
Knife
 

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Wonderful Pic's!

Next build, try some KGD cotton, and use the outside skin it has for the part of the cotton that touches the holes. I peel a piece off, and wrap it around so that it goes over the outside wire for added insulation from the body. Not needed, but does press it against the holes well. The inside skin stops the cotton from getting in between the coil wires.

Great effort!!! ;) (These self wrap coils work really well with thick VG liquids)., Seems to not have the flooding issues thin liquid has, but does not burn as easily as factory coils with thick liquids.

I doubt that many here will be trying it, as no one here liked the rebuildable deck for the Kabuki's, which is a heck of alot easier than what you just accomplished. Congrats!

Knife
G'day Knife.

I'm just starting to get a very slight burnt taste from the current coil, which was the one I installed directly after removing the one I stripped down and tried to rebuild, so it'll become my next attempted rebuild victim lol.

I've decided this time to leave the thin tube of wicking hole material in place as it doesn't have any contact with the coil, so it stays clean and unburnt.

All I will do is make a new coil, wrap it with fresh cotton, and reinstall.

The only dilemma I face is that I only have 28 gauge Kanthal which when comparing it to the original coil looks a little too thick.
There's not much space inside these things and I really should use thinner wire and a thinner diameter bolt/screw to wind it on so I end up with a coil inside diameter of 2mm which is what the stock coil is.

Anyway, it's all just a bit of fun really. But if I end up getting it right I won't need to buy anymore premade coils, and hopefully it'll help other fellow tinkerers here have a crack at it themselves.

Cheers mate and thanks for your advice :thumb:

Phil :)
 

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One thing I'm curious about: I've never tried to rebuild a BVC coil, but have tried to disassemble them simply out of curiosity. The one thing I never was able to do was separating the metal part of the coil into the two parts. How are you managing this without destroying the threads?
 
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One thing I'm curious about: I've never tried to rebuild a BVC coil, but have tried to disassemble them simply out of curiosity. The one thing I never was able to do was separating the metal part of the coil into the two parts. How are you managing this without destroying the threads?
G'day matey.

It's 2.45 am down here in Australia but I'm still wide awake..albeit a little bit drunk lol, but I'll attempt to take some pics as I tear down a coil housing to show how I do it.

Gimme about half an hour and I'll try to post some pics :)
 

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First get your tools together.


Pick the mesh anti spit screen out from the top with a needle. easy peasy.
Pull the positive pin out of the bottom with pliers.
And while you're at it pull the white rubber grommet out as well.
Then push the coil out from the bottom up using the blunt end of a 3.5mm drill bit


Turn the coil housing over topside up and sit it in a 10mm socket. I don't know what that translates to in imperial measurements but you'll be able to work out what you need as long as it supports the flange/O ring part of the main body and allows the press fit part to be removed by a downward tap with a 6mm drill bit using the blunt end against the part to be removed.
I sit a small piece of wood on top of the drill bit as a striking area for my hammer.
A light tap is all that's required.






Questions welcome :)
 

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First get your tools together.


Pick the mesh anti spit screen out from the top with a needle. easy peasy.
Pull the positive pin out of the bottom with pliers.
And while you're at it pull the white rubber grommet out as well.
Then push the coil out from the bottom up using the blunt end of a 3.5mm drill bit


Turn the coil housing over topside up and sit it in a 10mm socket. I don't know what that translates to in imperial measurements but you'll be able to work out what you need as long as it supports the flange/O ring part of the main body and allows the press fit part to be removed by a downward tap with a 6mm drill bit using the blunt end against the part to be removed.
I sit a small piece of wood on top of the drill bit as a striking area for my hammer.
A light tap is all that's required.






Questions welcome :)

Zen would love this... :w00t:
 

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Miss T Rose, I am not wanting to buy or sell anything. I only offered some time back as people were very frustrated with them. This was an offer to help what I perceived at the time, as friends who felt ripped off. (to help in their feeling of being cheated. I DO NOT need the Decks!!!)
This would not be possible on buying and selling, as that is for exactly that. Not an effort to help friends out.
I am perfectly capable of ordering any I need for personal use. But thank you for once again, completely misunderstanding intentions, and forever ready to criticize otherwise good intentions. You manage to endlessly elevate my perception of Humanity.

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