It seems that every once in a while, I find that one cartomizer just plain puts out more vapor/flavor than others. For example, I have a red cow that I am on my 5th refill (no washout) and it just seems to work better than anything! Even better than some of my brand new carts. Have I lost my mind or does anyone else experience this???n I might add that upon examination of the cart, nothing looks different on the inside.... I pulled out a new cowboy cart this morning that seems to be a killer too!
Anyone else ever get "The One"
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I experience this alot, just some carts are better than others.By the way how exactly do you wash out your carts?
I don't remember which thread it was(to give credit where it is due), but I do the rinse in warm water and blow dry from the opened end.
thanks,how long do you let dry before filling and reason I'm asking about washing is never tried but think I'm going to start because I only get about 2 out of 5 carts worth a hoot every time I refill.
I don't really wait after I blow them out. Just blow 'till I don't get any more water and fill away Also, I use the "Taryn Spin" method to fill em
Also, I use the "Taryn Spin" method to fill em
I don't really wait after I blow them out. Just blow 'till I don't get any more water and fill away
Heck yeah the spin method has been a juice saver for me, and the cart always performs better if I spin it.
well i spin them and do the thermometer trick i've tried everthing i've heard on this forum but still not with great results.DO YOU WAIT TILL you taste burning or low on vapor or both before refilling?
I try to refill before I get to the burning taste, I usually can get 15-18 drops in even before the taste change. I have never run a cart out of vapor, I can taste a change before that happens I guess?
CDC700 yeh that happens to me every now and then too. dont know why. maybe the polyfill or whatever that is inside is tigher or losser than others. Maybe i cleaned them out better or worse i dont know. i do use Taryns spin trick and it is the best. works every time. i only put in 18 to 22 drops and never have a problem. sometimes i let them sit overnite after spinning and sometimes i vape 1 right away. i know i proibably donbt have to wait but maybe its cause i refil my carts around midnite. i refill some kr808 carts some Greencig carts and maybe mix a few small bottles of liquid. I tell you one thing the blanks kr808 carts are ok but i am not crazy about the black color. my black cover gets hot. but then again i dont rest between vapes either lol that sucke ris always in my mouth.
Very good point CDC exfcellent post maybe we will find out why when others reply.
Very good point CDC exfcellent post maybe we will find out why when others reply.
Yep, CDC700, some carts just don't have the kick of other, however most are darn good. Some are like a timex though, they take a likin and just keep ticken' (lame, I know). In general most are good for about 3 to 4 refils and "the good ones" can go up to 10 or so.
I cut one into just above the battery connection and being careful not to damage the heating element so I could examine the contruction. There are a few variables that could make a difference in performance; the heating element is probably the greatest issue (how robust it is), and next, how it's wrapped and stuffed. The absorption from the batting into the wrap around the heating element is got to be crucial for vapor production. Hopefully that some of what Leaford is lookinh into.
And we must allways give give credit to Taryn for the SPIN trick, couldn't live without that.
I cut one into just above the battery connection and being careful not to damage the heating element so I could examine the contruction. There are a few variables that could make a difference in performance; the heating element is probably the greatest issue (how robust it is), and next, how it's wrapped and stuffed. The absorption from the batting into the wrap around the heating element is got to be crucial for vapor production. Hopefully that some of what Leaford is lookinh into.
And we must allways give give credit to Taryn for the SPIN trick, couldn't live without that.
I do not know if it is coincidence or what (I am a scientist and will investigate). I find that the empty cartomizers can be refilled more times and overall seem to be more productive than the pre-filled cartomizers. I am testing this as I write, and so far it holds true. I know that the empty and pre-filled cartomizers are the same, but maybe the atomizer in the pre-filled cartomizers get slightly gummed up or maybe something in the e-juice begins to precipitate on the atomizer resulting in less production and not being able to refill them as many times. JUST A HYPOTHESIS.
Considering that the carts are hand filled, and I would assume hand-packed, there is bound to be some discrepancies as far as cart performance is concerned. I have had some carts perform wonderfully, even after numerous refills. And some carts, even new ones, perform horribly. I hope that Leaford will help iron out their production and give us a little more consistency with cart performance in the near future.
There's a good thought, perhaps it has something to do with how long it's "sat on a shelf" refilled, certail e-juice may affect the atty differnet than others too. I've been wanting to try some blanks, this could a good time for an experiment.
I am really considering Dremeling a good and bad one to see if I can find a difference It's always fun to use the Dremel anyways
It's always fun to use the Dremel anyways
I agree 100%.
A pre-filled cart lasts me one day, maybe.
After that they just taste disgusting.
I'm still using the same blank cartomizer for 3 days now.
I can refill and refill and it still taste the same and have the same vapor.
Blank carts are the way to go.
What everybody else says. (With a special thanks to Taryn!)
I vape till the first hint of nutty "burnt" taste, then refill. Even if the vapor production is still good. I find I can generally get several more good puffs even when the vapor first seems to drop off. Sometimes it comes back for a bit. But the taste is my personal signal to refill.
My first order had 5 mixed carts and Steve threw in three others. I ordered a box of five in a flavor I liked. I'm still refilling those original carts. Only one of them failed on the first refilling. Wouldn't fire up at all. Threw it away. The others are all going strong on their 3-4th refill so far. And I've ordered ten blanks, on the way.
Some I rinse and blow dry as mentioned above, if I'm refilling with a different flavor.
Some I refill with the same flavor, so I don't rinse first.
I vape till the first hint of nutty "burnt" taste, then refill. Even if the vapor production is still good. I find I can generally get several more good puffs even when the vapor first seems to drop off. Sometimes it comes back for a bit. But the taste is my personal signal to refill.
My first order had 5 mixed carts and Steve threw in three others. I ordered a box of five in a flavor I liked. I'm still refilling those original carts. Only one of them failed on the first refilling. Wouldn't fire up at all. Threw it away. The others are all going strong on their 3-4th refill so far. And I've ordered ten blanks, on the way.
Some I rinse and blow dry as mentioned above, if I'm refilling with a different flavor.
Some I refill with the same flavor, so I don't rinse first.
I am really considering Dremeling a good and bad one to see if I can find a difference
LOL...I agree...love my dremel. I have a red cow cartridge that I received with my initial order I am still using. I have only rinsed it one time...I think it was a couple of weeks ago. I call it my miracle cartomizer..
I am looking into a lot of variables, but so far it's looking like the biggest factor is the simplest; having them filled with PRECISELY 1ml. Not .9, not 1.1, but 1.0 exactly. I did a LOT of testing and that is the sweet spot.
That's something Steve's been trying to get them to do for a LONG time, but they kept insisting that that was too much. SO before I left, I made a video for them showing me filling a blank cart with 1ml, and comparing its vapor production to one of their .8ml prefilled carts. My 1ml cart blew their .8ml away.
Now, they're finally doing 1ml. And most of the carts I've tested have all produced GREAT vapor. They fill by hand, though, so there's still some inconsistency. I now have them checking the fill by weight, though, so we'll be getting even that smoothed out.
The remaining problem is the tendency for some flavors to need several puffs before producing their maximum potential vapor. That one is going to be a bit harder to nail down, because it varies by flavor, so it's not the carts themselves or the fill amount or method but believe me, I'm working on it.
That's something Steve's been trying to get them to do for a LONG time, but they kept insisting that that was too much. SO before I left, I made a video for them showing me filling a blank cart with 1ml, and comparing its vapor production to one of their .8ml prefilled carts. My 1ml cart blew their .8ml away.
Now, they're finally doing 1ml. And most of the carts I've tested have all produced GREAT vapor. They fill by hand, though, so there's still some inconsistency. I now have them checking the fill by weight, though, so we'll be getting even that smoothed out.
The remaining problem is the tendency for some flavors to need several puffs before producing their maximum potential vapor. That one is going to be a bit harder to nail down, because it varies by flavor, so it's not the carts themselves or the fill amount or method but believe me, I'm working on it.
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