Anyone else get a little liquid in the mouth... every time?

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sugarmama

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I'm not sure if it's pretty normal/common or if I'm doing something wrong, but I get just a little liquid coming out of the mouthpiece on almost every vape. I notice it start to creep up the insides of the hole, so I tap the PV mouthpiece-down on a tissue or something a couple of times, and get a drop or two of liquid out. But I still end up with a little liquid on my tongue every 4 or 5 vapes.

I'm taking slow, easy draws on the PV, and it happens with both pre-filled cartos and refilled blanks. I'm not overfilling, either - I'm kinda paranoid about that, so I always leave the refilled cartos standing up for 15 minutes or so after refilling so any extra comes out the bottom before using. I'm not tilting the PV, either.

Does anyone else have this problem?
 

sugarmama

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Thanks, Elendil--I'm using both a 510 and KR8, and like I mentioned, it happens with pre-filled, too. I have both the passthroughs and batts, manual and automatic, and no matter what, it's happening (just happened now!). I thought I must be overfilling, but when it happened with pre-filled, I had second thoughts. I also purposefully took some very shallow vapes, more like breathing, and still had it happen. It sounds like it must just be me... I've got power lips?
 

Taurox

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It almost always happens to me. I know some of it is from me overfilling. I even tripped putting a lipton tea bag sheet between my cartomizers and the rubber plug, it worked a little bit. Lately I have been putting my 501 drip tips on top of my kr808 cartomizers instead of the rubber plug. Seems to have completely stopped any juice from entering my mouth or lips. The only thing I can get from this is maybe the small hole in the plugs combined with the small straw down the center is creating a strong suction. With the drip tips larger opening it is eliminating the suction straw effect.

T
 
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Vidi

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I've got power lips

are you sure you're not Thunderlips?

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If you hadnt mentioned you were taking shallow hits sometimes, then I would suspect you were drawing too hard. Happened to me a few times early on.

It must be overfilling then...unless you got a faulty cart somehow.
 

sugarmama

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It almost always happens to me. I know some of it is from me overfilling. I even tripped putting a lipton tea bag sheet between my cartomizers and the rubber plug, it worked a little bit. Lately I have been putting my 501 drip tips on top of my kr808 cartomizers instead of the rubber plug. Seems to have completely stopped any juice from entering my mouth or lips. The only thing I can get from this is maybe the small hole in the plugs combined with the small straw down the center is creating a strong suction. With the drip tips larger opening it is eliminating the suction straw effect.

T

Oh, that sounds pretty right on - I've actually been thinking lately about using a drip tip with my cartomizer, so maybe I should give it a whirl. Thanks for the good idea!
 

Taurox

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oh one more thing I should mention is. I am not using the drip tips to refill the cartomizers. I suppose it could work, but seeing that the drip tip lines up drops to go right on the atomizer. With a cartomizer it would line them up to go right on the straw part. Which I am assuming would not be good. I still take the tips off to refill, so i can run the liquid down the side. However with the drip tips it does make refilling easier cause I can just grab the tip with my finger and pull off. Plus the added benefit of no splash on my lips. I have tried all the methods of refilling and blowing out and tons of advice not to get backsplash. I guess I just suck at refilling them. No longer a concern for me now, I can flood the suckers up and then some.

T
 

sugarmama

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oh one more thing I should mention is. I am not using the drip tips to refill the cartomizers. I suppose it could work, but seeing that the drip tip lines up drops to go right on the atomizer. With a cartomizer it would line them up to go right on the straw part. Which I am assuming would not be good. I still take the tips off to refill, so i can run the liquid down the side. However with the drip tips it does make refilling easier cause I can just grab the tip with my finger and pull off. Plus the added benefit of no splash on my lips. I have tried all the methods of refilling and blowing out and tons of advice not to get backsplash. I guess I just suck at refilling them. No longer a concern for me now, I can flood the suckers up and then some.

T

OK, now I am sold! Right on for your advice. I've gotta try it right now!

Edit: 5 minutes later! Taurox, you are my hero. This may be common knowledge, but I learned it from you so you get the gold star! Works like a dream.

Edit: 15 minutes later! OK, just got enough vapor - for the first time - from my little Kr8 to blow smoke rings. Nice.
 
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sugarmama

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Possibly a stupid suggestion but.. just tilt it down while you're inhaling? If you're still getting liquid while pointing it down at an angle, you're Vacuum Man. The eighth wonder of the world.

Think Guinness is ready to feature me? LOL

I'm definitely not tipping, so I guess that makes me a super hero!
 
oh one more thing I should mention is. I am not using the drip tips to refill the cartomizers. I suppose it could work, but seeing that the drip tip lines up drops to go right on the atomizer. With a cartomizer it would line them up to go right on the straw part. Which I am assuming would not be good. I still take the tips off to refill, so i can run the liquid down the side. However with the drip tips it does make refilling easier cause I can just grab the tip with my finger and pull off. Plus the added benefit of no splash on my lips. I have tried all the methods of refilling and blowing out and tons of advice not to get backsplash. I guess I just suck at refilling them. No longer a concern for me now, I can flood the suckers up and then some.

T

OMG.. you are a god send!! I hated the "spitting" cart/cartomizer... I just tried what you suggested and it WORKED!!!!
*bows down to da master* lol
 

Taurox

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Thats awesome, I am glad it works for you as well. If it is common knowledge I was never able to find it. I found tons of posts saying that it was from overfilling, or tips on blowing the cartos out one side or another. It always still did it for me. I figured it was my fault cause I like keeping my cartos real wet. I think they last longer, I had one for more then a month. My only problem was that the drip tips worked great on the cartomizers when I am home. However on the road, I would have to give up one of my carto spots in my travel case. The slots aren't long enough to allow for the carto and tip. Plus that would be leaving cartomizers sitting in my case without a plug in them. After a little experimenting since my last post I think I discovered another effective way of preventing splashing without a drip tip. Although realize I am still testing it out.

Take one of your cheap plastic condoms for the cartomizers and cut out a large hole in the bottom. It should be around the same size opening as the drip tips. Now after filling the carto, place the regular tiny holed plug in the carto, then place the rubber on top of that. Don't push the rubber all the way down onto the carto, about halfway. Then vape on that. It should produce the same effect, albeit not as well as the drip tips. But you can just push the rubber down fully on the carto and place inside the traveling cases and you are set to roll, just pulling it halfway off when you want to vape. So far it seems to be working, I filled one up so far it was clearly too much, dripping horribly out of the battery end. I cleaned it off, put the plug on and the rubber on top. I vaped on it a ton and after awhile I could see through the rubber that the plug had allowed juice to gather on top of it. There was even some juice from condensation on the lip of the rubber. But it was inside the rubber, not on top. It is not as easy to refill as the drip tip, plus it doesn't prevent the splash's they are still there inside the rubber so you would have to clean them, but at least they aren't in my mouth or lips. I need to do more testing, but I think I have found my new travel case solution.

I think I am also going to try and see if drilling the hole larger in the plugs could solve it also. But not sure how I am gonna drill this tiny piece of rubber without drilling holes through my fingers..

T
 

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Very likely, it's not liquid, but condensed water with traces of liquid. (Doesn't taste too good, either.) I have that quite often, depending also on the weather. With carts, I just blow them out: Pull them out, place a piece of paper towel in front (don't press it against the filling or it will pull liquid out) and blow into the top end of the mouthpiece. If it's very warm outside, I regularly do that whenever I refill the cart.
 

QuarkZ

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Just like you alex. I guess it might be because also you pull too hard on that little thing (or drool too much?) so the juice gets into the wrong part. I also blow that out whenever i refill the cartridge. I think it gets a little practice to get it just right, but every now and again, especially when i try mods, i get some juice in my mouth. Mostly because it leaks...
 
Very likely, it's not liquid, but condensed water with traces of liquid. (Doesn't taste too good, either.) I have that quite often, depending also on the weather. With carts, I just blow them out: Pull them out, place a piece of paper towel in front (don't press it against the filling or it will pull liquid out) and blow into the top end of the mouthpiece. If it's very warm outside, I regularly do that whenever I refill the cart.

This I will definitely try this afternoon. There's a ton of advice on this thread about cartomizers, but I use the standard 510 atomizers & cartridges, with the ZFM mod. I'm getting liquid coming out of the mouthpiece nearly every draw, and it doesn't matter if the cartridge is full or near empty, ZFM mod or polyfill or blue foam, etc. I use as gentle a draw as I can... but I think even then I have a lot of suction going on. The liquids may taste wonderful inhaled, but not so much on the tongue. It does seem like I have less of this problem with the whistle tips than with the regular round ones, though I don't know why... they just have a different effect on the drawing/pulling.
 

mutt4a

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Well, i used to get this all the time. While E-Cig was a godsend to me this refilling/rejuicing was a nightmare, and I have to say that it was one of the reason i was a little slow moving off of my Green Smoke (with cartomizers and no reflling) to my EGO which i use exclusively now.

What has finally turned the scale for me is the new CE2 R3 ceramic cartomizers that are just this last week becoming available at several of our retailers. With these i can both make sure my carto's are full when i leave the house, be assured that If i have a full carto and a spare I will not run out while in the field. And the refilling is actually pretty straight forward. The ONLY downside is that I look like i'm a druggy w/ the syringe it takes to refill them with.

At $15 delivered for a carton of 5, and you factor in that it includes 5 atomizers in the costs, well I for one encourage anybody having issues such as these to at least give them a Try.

They have without a doubt convinced me, and most of the earlier issues and problems seem to have been worked out....
 

DaveP

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Occasionally I get liquid in the mouthpiece on my Ego. It happens with standard, mega, or Ego mega carts. I blame it on a flooded atty, but eventually it happens no matter what. When it does, I pop out the insert on the mouthpiece (the one with the hole in it and the one behind it) and run a towel down into the inside of the cart to soak up the juice, and re-assemble. When you refill a cart you can always see tiny drops of condensation on the sides just waiting to be sucked up into the mouthpiece. Cleaning them every refill helps.

Long slow drags helps to keep juice and condensation from entering the mouthpiece.
 
I pop out the insert on the mouthpiece (the one with the hole in it and the one behind it) and run a towel down into the inside of the cart to soak up the juice, and re-assemble.

How do I pop out the insert without damaging the cartridge, fitting, etc.? I've read elsewhere that this can be disassembled, but I have arthritic hands that have no dexterity and shake a lot, so it's all too easy for me to break things. Because of this, and being on an extremely low budget (disability), the last thing I want to do is break the few pieces I currently have. ;)

When you refill a cart you can always see tiny drops of condensation on the sides just waiting to be sucked up into the mouthpiece. Cleaning them every refill helps.

I've been keeping Q-tips on hand just for this. It hasn't stopped the mouth leakage, but it's slowed the leaking between the atty and battery quite a lot. :)

Long slow drags helps to keep juice and condensation from entering the mouthpiece.

That's what I do... like I said, I think I'm one of those "power suction" people. I'm drawing as lightly as I possibly can, but still getting the liquid in the mouth. I'm hoping that being able to dissemble/reassemble the insert in the cartridge to fully clean/empty that section of the cartridge will do the trick.
 
What has finally turned the scale for me is the new CE2 R3 ceramic cartomizers that are just this last week becoming available at several of our retailers. [...] The ONLY downside is that I look like i'm a druggy w/ the syringe it takes to refill them with.

At $15 delivered for a carton of 5, and you factor in that it includes 5 atomizers in the costs, well I for one encourage anybody having issues such as these to at least give them a Try.

They have without a doubt convinced me, and most of the earlier issues and problems seem to have been worked out....

LOL! I've got an 18 guage syringe, and though I haven't had to use it yet, I've already imagined the funny looks I'd get using that.

Thanks, I'll research these. But first question is, do they fit 510 batteries? I'm planning on "upgrading" my PV model soon, but have to stick to the 510 basics (i.e., batteries so that I don't have to replace my chargers just yet) till the finances improve around here.
 
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