anyone else have shortness of breath?
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Iodine is not very good for quite a few thyroid diseases. Graves disease is however thyroid working overtime, not too little, as would be the result of stopping to smoke analogs.
However, both hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid) and hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid) can occasionally cause fairly similar symptoms, oddly enough. Eye problems and depression, for example, are notorious for being present in both. Of course, there is more than one possible reason for both as well.
That is however a very complex subject, and I strongly suggest that you check a thyroid forum on the matter. They usually can help you finding a doctor, too, who knows what to do with results, and which values to check in the first place. Many doctors just check TSH and if it's normal, you are out of luck. Even those who check a bit more might not do anything if you are within the range they learned was normal back at university. Those have changed, though, in the last few years.
I am not sure if you can, but I would not recommend it. Check out the smokeless section of the forum, there are several forms available. I'd try snus, it is very well tested, reasonably harmless (particularly compared to analogs, but also to other forms of oral tobacco), and works.
Thanks Alex, I was so sure I had Graves disease all along, I looked emaciated. Now I am obese. I did read everything I could on thyroid disease. Unfortunately I live in a very rural area with sub par medical care and the endocronoligist I saw was a 150 mile round trip. He did look old school. He said my eyes were protruding from their sockets, but the rheumatologist said they werent. But the SOB that started after vaping that other juice was sudden. In my case, with a falling apart car, a fixed income and no human help, I have to troubleshoot just about everything on my own. Smokeless looks like my only option right now. After winter I will get more "normal range" thyroid tests done. I was tested for the right ones plus a full adrenal w/up. My values were so low it shoulda been a red flag, but I had nowhere else to go up here. You would not believe the doctors here. Sorry about the rant, and I appreciate your input. I had a hunch tobacco might affect thyroid fx.
As I said, check online information on thyroid disease, especially since I only ever got my information on it in German. But you do sound more hypothyroid to me than hyper, Hashimoto instead of Graves. (Depression and overweight are classical Hasimoto signs. However, I was fairly heavy with Graves, and my anxiety caused depression.) It would depend on which of your results were low. Gaves has low TSH and high T3+4, Hashimoto has it exactly the other way around. (And those are just the two most common thyroid diseases.)
Wikipedia seems to be OK for basic information.
Unfortunately, if it is Hashimoto, stopping to smoke will, for a short time, excarbate it. OTOH, my Graves got better. Obviously, you should still stop smoking, but if you can't get any medical help (and actually, you don't need an endocrinologist for that; any general practitioner should be able to prescribe thyroid hormones), you need to look into alternative information, and even smokeless tobacco may be useful. As I said, depends on the actual results you had.
Wikipedia seems to be OK for basic information.
Unfortunately, if it is Hashimoto, stopping to smoke will, for a short time, excarbate it. OTOH, my Graves got better. Obviously, you should still stop smoking, but if you can't get any medical help (and actually, you don't need an endocrinologist for that; any general practitioner should be able to prescribe thyroid hormones), you need to look into alternative information, and even smokeless tobacco may be useful. As I said, depends on the actual results you had.
I have quit smoking many times before I started using e-cigs, and each of the times I quit without a nicotine replacement (gum, patch, etc.), I experienced difficulty breathing. I suspect the problem was related to the sudden lack of nicotine in my system combined with the sudden removal of smoke, which after so many years my body had become accustomed to. I would find myself taking big gulps of air just to satisfy my physical need to "inhale".
Also, the lack of nicotine made me anxious, which affected my pulse rate and made me feel like I was often gasping for air.
Since I started vaping, I find that I had been experiencing similar symptoms. I suspect that this is because I am not getting the same nicotine hit that I got from analogs. My overall anxiety is not as bad, because I am getting SOME nicotine. Just not as much as I did with analogs.
Still, I do sometimes feel like my lungs are heavy, which is a different issue. This I believe is because I am vaping significantly more than I smoked. With analogs, I would smoke about one every hour or so. I don't smoke in the house, so I would put as much time between smokes as I could to lessen the inconvenience. But vaping leaves no odor or stains on the walls, furniture, etc. So I vape freely in the house. And I vape almost constantly from 6:00PM until I go to bed. That's a LOT of PG/VG going into my lungs every night, so I am not surprised that I feel a little "chesty" when I hit the sack. Also, I kind of wonder, how much of what I am inhaling is vapor from the juice, and how much is burning plastic from the polyfill inside the cartridges?
The one thing I can't seem to figure out is this: Why is it when I vape, my throat seems closed up and I need to clear it more often. When I smoked, that NEVER happened.
Also, the lack of nicotine made me anxious, which affected my pulse rate and made me feel like I was often gasping for air.
Since I started vaping, I find that I had been experiencing similar symptoms. I suspect that this is because I am not getting the same nicotine hit that I got from analogs. My overall anxiety is not as bad, because I am getting SOME nicotine. Just not as much as I did with analogs.
Still, I do sometimes feel like my lungs are heavy, which is a different issue. This I believe is because I am vaping significantly more than I smoked. With analogs, I would smoke about one every hour or so. I don't smoke in the house, so I would put as much time between smokes as I could to lessen the inconvenience. But vaping leaves no odor or stains on the walls, furniture, etc. So I vape freely in the house. And I vape almost constantly from 6:00PM until I go to bed. That's a LOT of PG/VG going into my lungs every night, so I am not surprised that I feel a little "chesty" when I hit the sack. Also, I kind of wonder, how much of what I am inhaling is vapor from the juice, and how much is burning plastic from the polyfill inside the cartridges?
The one thing I can't seem to figure out is this: Why is it when I vape, my throat seems closed up and I need to clear it more often. When I smoked, that NEVER happened.
Maybe your throat is closing up because it is drying out and kind of swollen? PG does dry mucus membranes out alot. Then once it is already dry and you start putting pressure on the tissues by clearing it, maybe the swelling increases. I used to be really hoarse when I was nic free chain vaping. I actually sounded croaky. Heavy lungs is a good way to describe how mine feel now. Oddly enough, I can inhale much better now than when I was smoking. I never had a smokers cough or coughed after I quit. I wonder if my lungs are just still trying to heal.
ACM, to me you sound like a first-class candidate for upping your nic levels, at least at the moment.
You may also need more from tobacco than just nicotine, do search the forum for WTA or MAOIs and smokeless tobacco for more info on that.
I would not worry too much about the amount of PG/VG, because even if you vape 5ml a day, that is still not that much. There is, to the best of my knowledge, also only one model out there that produces any noticeable amount of burned plastic, and even that is not the case with everybody. All others at worst very slightly melt plastic, and well, that is quite noticeable at least on the 510. I know, I tried once on purpose. If that worries you, just keep the filling wet. I top off my cart whenever I change my regular-sized batteries, eliminating that (potential) problem.
You may also need more from tobacco than just nicotine, do search the forum for WTA or MAOIs and smokeless tobacco for more info on that.
I would not worry too much about the amount of PG/VG, because even if you vape 5ml a day, that is still not that much. There is, to the best of my knowledge, also only one model out there that produces any noticeable amount of burned plastic, and even that is not the case with everybody. All others at worst very slightly melt plastic, and well, that is quite noticeable at least on the 510. I know, I tried once on purpose. If that worries you, just keep the filling wet. I top off my cart whenever I change my regular-sized batteries, eliminating that (potential) problem.
Im vaping for 3 months already and i haven't any problems with health. Hope that everything will be okay with you.
I couldn't find anywhere the nicotine levels you are purchasing.
First of all, nicotine as most of know, is a vasoconstrictor. In short it means that it causes poor circulation to your muscles. The biggest organ it effects is your heart. Nicotine depletes the oxygen in your lungs. To counteract the effects you must exercise, eat certain foods, etc. It sounds like you did all of those things while smoking, which is why you did not feel the effects of analogs.
To recap all of the other issues, I do not think it is asthma, glycerine, etc. It may be from the fibers, if you are smoking a 3-piece, but since I started cartomizers and drink plenty of clear liquids, the problem has stopped for me.
My opinion, if you think it is the vaping, it is the nicotine. When you smoke analogs that are, lets say 18 mg, you actually only ingest 1 mg into your body, which your liver metabolizes and filters and the main part of the drug goes to your brain in like 2 seconds. This is why we get the buzz and stress relief. Nicotine also increases you memory and brain function. Without getting too medical, there are so many reasons it is addictive and enjoyable. Back to my point about the consumption, with e-cigs we do not know how much nicotine we are ingesting because it is not being burned off like analogs. Lets say you try to match you analog intake with e-liquid in the same mg, you will be ingesting more nicotine, which does deplete the heart of oxygen and will cause sob. Not everyone's body reacts the same to foreign agents. Unfortunately, this just may be something your body can not process properly. Also remember that nicotine is a natural insectacide and extracted and used on crops. Nicotine is a poison no matter how you chop it up, smoke it, vape it, etc.
I am not trying to be a killjoy, and I will continue to vape because, in my opinion, anything is better than 400+ carcinogens found in analogs. I know that I still have cancer risks just by breathing air, but I am trying to prevent doing it too myself.
I also hate to jump on the bandwagon all the time with China, but seriously if they put plastic in baby formula and lead in childrens jewlery, what makes anyone think that e-cigs are any different.
In conclusion, good luck with whatever you decide. I hope you can quit everything all together. Unfortunately, I am just one of those type A's who takes all vices too far and will just substitute one for another and/or make excuses for it. HAHA!!!!!
P.S. I do not think it is all in your head.
First of all, nicotine as most of know, is a vasoconstrictor. In short it means that it causes poor circulation to your muscles. The biggest organ it effects is your heart. Nicotine depletes the oxygen in your lungs. To counteract the effects you must exercise, eat certain foods, etc. It sounds like you did all of those things while smoking, which is why you did not feel the effects of analogs.
To recap all of the other issues, I do not think it is asthma, glycerine, etc. It may be from the fibers, if you are smoking a 3-piece, but since I started cartomizers and drink plenty of clear liquids, the problem has stopped for me.
My opinion, if you think it is the vaping, it is the nicotine. When you smoke analogs that are, lets say 18 mg, you actually only ingest 1 mg into your body, which your liver metabolizes and filters and the main part of the drug goes to your brain in like 2 seconds. This is why we get the buzz and stress relief. Nicotine also increases you memory and brain function. Without getting too medical, there are so many reasons it is addictive and enjoyable. Back to my point about the consumption, with e-cigs we do not know how much nicotine we are ingesting because it is not being burned off like analogs. Lets say you try to match you analog intake with e-liquid in the same mg, you will be ingesting more nicotine, which does deplete the heart of oxygen and will cause sob. Not everyone's body reacts the same to foreign agents. Unfortunately, this just may be something your body can not process properly. Also remember that nicotine is a natural insectacide and extracted and used on crops. Nicotine is a poison no matter how you chop it up, smoke it, vape it, etc.
I am not trying to be a killjoy, and I will continue to vape because, in my opinion, anything is better than 400+ carcinogens found in analogs. I know that I still have cancer risks just by breathing air, but I am trying to prevent doing it too myself.
I also hate to jump on the bandwagon all the time with China, but seriously if they put plastic in baby formula and lead in childrens jewlery, what makes anyone think that e-cigs are any different.
In conclusion, good luck with whatever you decide. I hope you can quit everything all together. Unfortunately, I am just one of those type A's who takes all vices too far and will just substitute one for another and/or make excuses for it. HAHA!!!!!
P.S. I do not think it is all in your head.
Uhm. Could you kindly explain what "fiber-problem" 3-piece units have that 2-piece units do not have? Or do you mean the very occasional fiber from the cart filling that may get stuck into the mesh? As opposed to the KR8 for example, where such fibers are in direct contact with the attomizer coil and burn quite often very badly?
Methinks you need to drink more clear liquids.
That was in reply to ALC, not aimed at you in any way, blondeambition.
It's just that I find the 2-parter fanboys who run around making outragous claims quite annoying.
It's just that I find the 2-parter fanboys who run around making outragous claims quite annoying.
Yes I have breathing problems, but I think it's because I gained weight over the past few... I can tell you one thing for sure I have less breathing problems then when I smoked.. which means I can handle 4 flights of stairs with no problem rather than 2 before 
I have been vaping for about 7mo
I have been vaping for about 7mo
Well, I'm not going to name names, as some people may not have the same problems as I have, but like some previous posters, I've had some breathing/phlegm problems with certain liquids from certain suppliers. I'll just say the ones I've had problems with tend to be highly-flavoured supplier-made juices. Other juices from same suppliers didn't bother me as much. So, I agree, certain flavourings must be at fault here - I will avoid them in future.
So far I have not had any problems with liquids, but everybody reacts differently. I get headaches from nutmeg, other people can't eat stawberries, many can't drink milk …
That's exactly how I feel - my breathing has improved, but I'm so darn tired all the time, it's driving me nuts. I've been ananlog free for almost a month now. I smoked a pack and a half of Marlboro Reds for the past 40+ years. I quit one time 25 yrs ago for 30 days and I remember having more energy than I'd ever had in my life. My appetite increased to the point that I was eating like a horse. I'm very thin naturally, so eating isn't a priority with me. Since I stopped the analogs and started vaping, the only thing I feel like has changed at all is my breathing seems to have improved. Other than that, I'm very, very tired - I could literally sleep 80% of the day, my appetite hasn't improved at all. The other thing that I've noticed - when I quit smoking that one time - my skin felt different - you know how you get more color in your skin and it just feels more alive - that hasn't happened to me with vaping. I'm trying to stay optimistic and hoping I'm I'll start feeling better, but so far it's not happening as fast or at all really. I keep waiting for that extra spring in my step ( even for a 55 yr old ) !
Oh AlexTM, I am by no means trying to be a 2-parter fanboy. I had just read an earlier post by a lady who said that she had had that problem before. I do try to stay somewhat partial, and I do try to switch off and on between different units all day, but I can't help the fact that I keep going back to the 808. I just ordered some diff mods to try and increase the fluid, flavor, and basically longevity of my 3-pieces. I just find that no matter what I do, I cannot get as good of a balance as I do with the 808. I am more than happy to take any suggestions you may have to make me turn from the dark side (heehee). No offense was intended, but I am always up for a good debate if you're in. You are a month ahead of me, so I think that you might get me the first couple of rounds, but don't count me out if you like a little challenge. I look forward to hearing more from you, I like your style!!!!
I know, its scary how much I could sleep. My eating is the same or less, weight loss, not gain. I don't want to smoke, haven't really come close, I'm happy with vaping. Just wish I had my energy level back. I'm going to have my thyroid checked as advised.
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