Anyone interested in a review pool? other ideas in here too

[RatInDaHat]

A few of us were talking and the idea of a review pool came up.

We have enough members that a small contribution from many would allow honest reviews of the new products as they come out.

Anyone interested in this concept? reviews would be video documented. Items would be tested with original carts as well as cheaper liquid(if possible) to determine reliability.

Just a thought. Hopefully this is the correct forum to put this in.

-Dusty-

 

[NerdyCinderella]

Don't companies usually offer free samples to professional reviewers. We should assign a member as "our" professional reviewer and solicit the companies to participate thru submission of a free sample. An additional incentive for them could be offerring them free advertisements thru publications of our positive reviews on YouTube and major Electronic Review websites.

Secondly, I'm not understanding the math. Twenty people would have to donate $5 for a $100 item. And we all know $100 is a low estimate for the better makers. I'm not sure you would get twenty that easily.

I'd be willing to donate depending on what the final plans look like. However, I wouldn't be a reviewer cause I couldn't do videos - lol.

Just some ideas IMHO

 

[RatInDaHat]

same post as in other topic.

when i say a few, i don't mean 1 or 2. if 10% donated $5 that would be $150. that would cover most of the cost for almost any unit. problem is that with each new unit, there would be a new cost. I think it was good in theory, but probably not easy to do with the economics standpoint.

I was just thinking about the professional reviewer idea. I can donate my camera, writing skills, and e-cig destroying capabilities to the cause. All we would need is the endorsement of this forum for the "professional" or official reviewer position. User reviews would still be encouraged, but the pro guy would do an in-depth and methodical review. First impressions, longevity, possibly even dissection for dead or unusual units.(like the G300 cart)

Maybe that is the better way to go.

-Dusty-

 

[kodye57]

Drats, already purchased almost every brand out there... i'm in for like $500 on these things!

Maybe we could just setup a logical poll review threads for each brand/model. And we could all try to agree on the most important aspects of ecigs. For example a single review poll thread would look like:

Super cigarette
(photo)
Vapor volume (8)
Cartridge longevity (3)
Build quality (6)
Overall Quality (6)
Battery Life (3)
Looks (9)
--------------------
TOTAL (35)

Then everyone could just submit their scores based on their own experience, and the lead post would show the aggregate average. Of course, everyone could leave their own subjective opinions on them.

Might be a bit advanced for PHPBB, but this would be the ideal method. All we have to do is agree on the most important traits...

 

[RatInDaHat]

i was kind of thinking that if they survive for someone like me, then they should survive for a much less demanding user. I haven't found a single one that'll last more than 1 or 2 weeks with me.

So yeah... not sure what to really do, but i still like the official reviewer idea.

 

[leaford]

I've been thinking about doing comparative reviews, since I've gotten so many of them to compare. The thing is, how to rate these things objectively? Take smoke production; how do you rate the smoke volume in an objective manner that can be applied evenly across the board. I'd like to go all Consumer Reports on them, and have some kind of machine that draws in a regulated amount of air, and measures the amount of vapor in it. But that's not realistic. So maybe something simpler, like a background with some sort of scale, which the reviewer can blow across, taking a pic of the cloud of vapor, and measuring the volume visually. Mythbusters style. Same with battery/cartridge life. I'd like a robot that could keep puffing at regular intervals until the battery or cartridge is completely spent. Not having that, the reviewer would have to be disciplined and use the subject e-cigarette steadily, regularly, and exclusively.

Looking back at my earlier reviews, I see I was overly enthusiastic about some of these. Having truly objective stats to compare between them would help.

 

[RatInDaHat]

all of it is subjective, but so are most reviews when you look at it. The goal is that the reviewer needs to be objective.

Also where video can help. granted no scale, but a general impression. Trust me, you would be able to see a major difference between all of my pieces right now.

-Dusty-

 

[karenwest1961]

i was kind of thinking that if they survive for someone like me, then they should survive for a much less demanding user. I haven't found a single one that'll last more than 1 or 2 weeks with me.

So yeah... not sure what to really do, but i still like the official reviewer idea.

And that's an idea too. Review the product "2 weeks later." I'm with you...I start to get disappointed after about a week or two because the smoke diminishes (and some products it's substantially!)...and battery stops holding a charge.

I'm at the point that I consider them all "disposables" and considering just buying a pen-style from e-cig and when I do my monthly cartridge and liquid buy, just buy extra batteries and atomizers since they're all cheap enough through e-cig anyway. And I'd still be saving money over cigarettes. When technology gets better, then I'd sink more money into the device. At this point in my waiting game, I'd rather read, learn and keep smoking with the best hit and vapor I can get.

So yeah, Dusty...I vote you be the "man"....and there might be something to that free sample thing...we should check into it for you. That would be very cool. Otherwise, I don't mind donating to the cause if it will save me money in the long run.

 

[RatInDaHat]

janty probably won't go for a free sample, but you never know. They have been getting plenty of positive hype.

I'm really curious about all of the greencig models. And anything else that is new or generally unheard of. Ruyan is a good example. we all know about them, but don't really have any kind of reviews or info about the products.

Anyone have any ideas about the proper way to approach some of these companies?

-Dusty-

 

[TropicalBob]

We're in an era where the consumer's voice can be found on the Internet and actually seems to have more weight than the opinions of many professionals. There are arguments to be made favoring either approach.

There's a site I visit at least once a week, heavily trafficked by pipe smokers. To me, it has a setup we could use for e-smoking devices and materials. Take a look at it and imagine what we could ask of an e-cig, in the same way each reviewer addresses a particular tobacco. Since I'm puffing Frog Morton tonight, here's the link (scan down the reviews to see how fast one item can build up opinion): http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend_detail.cfm?ALPHA=F&TID=768

Neat, huh?

 

[Mr.Darcy]

now thats impressive.

 

[Klaue]

How about coupling this with a tipps&tricks area where they're explained with lots of pictures in a standardised format?
Something like http://www.instructables.com or http://www.5min.com.. Or, to keep it simple, something like http://www.howtopedia.org. Including a wikimedia how-to section would probably be the easiest

 

[Oliver]

Hi guys,

I'd love to be able to implement something similar to what the tobaccoreviews.com does, but that is a little outside of the capabilities of forum software. There may be a way of doing it with a CMS program such as Joomla, although this will have to run separately to the forum.

I will, however, be installing some wiki software so we can build up the knowledge base on e-cigarettes.

SJ

 

[karenwest1961]

Would one of you who already have the Janty Kiss mind doing a video and review at 2 weeks and 4 weeks...maybe another at 6?

 

[bill]

Drats, already purchased almost every brand out there... i'm in for like $500 on these things!

Maybe we could just setup a logical poll review threads for each brand/model. And we could all try to agree on the most important aspects of ecigs. For example a single review poll thread would look like:

Super cigarette
(photo)
Vapor volume (8)
Cartridge longevity (3)
Build quality (6)
Overall Quality (6)
Battery Life (3)
Looks (9)
--------------------
TOTAL (35)

Then everyone could just submit their scores based on their own experience, and the lead post would show the aggregate average. Of course, everyone could leave their own subjective opinions on them.

Might be a bit advanced for PHPBB, but this would be the ideal method. All we have to do is agree on the most important traits...

Hi, first post, and although I have had a good browse though the forums, forgive me if I mention things already covered.

With so many devices out there now, I think the idea of detailed reviews (as mentioned above) would be a great addition, and alongside that, reviews of the various stores/online sellers, as well as a link to their site, would also be good. If using eBay the feedback can be helpful in deciding which seller to go with, so a similar customer based review table in the forum for all the other non-eBay sellers/shops as well, would be good. An indication of the location would also help, because the shipping costs can play a big part, so grouping them based on region (e.g. USA, EU, Far East, etc), could help.

All that said if you spend long enough browsing these forums you start to get a good sense of what the various companies and products are like, I just think it would be good to have it summarised in one place.

Wish I had found this site earlier!

 

[Machina]

How about coupling this with a tipps&tricks area where they're explained with lots of pictures in a standardised format?
Something like http://www.instructables.com or http://www.5min.com.. Or, to keep it simple, something like http://www.howtopedia.org. Including a wikimedia how-to section would probably be the easiest

We need something. Non-standardization of the reviews here makes every review either a 'this sucks' or 'amazing!' review. Which i know is not the case, since the mini I use exclusively was one of the bare bones 'this sucks' cigs 'reviewed' here.

It's less I think making a board mod, and just having people willing to go all out in a review an post pictures, videos, in depth reviews ect. If i am spending 150 on a damn chinese electronic I want gadget pron! Show the damn thing taken apart, what a cart looks like, ect.

 

[TropicalBob]

Everything here today is an opinion. And that works (somewhat) for flavors, but not hardware. I want Consumer Reports to standardize testing and then rate these devices. Anything else remains just opinion, varying by reviewer and the amount of time the device has been in use.

 

[NerdyCinderella]

I've been rethinking this Review Pool idea. Before we get so technical in our analyses, I'd like to hear of an ecig of any style lasting at least 2 to 6 months without replacement parts first.

 

[bishybob]

Klaue: I like the idea of having a Wiki-style site with user contributed material. Different brands, where you buy them, reviews, etc... I use Wikipedia a lot and I like the interface.

 

[kessel113]

I've been rethinking this Review Pool idea. Before we get so technical in our analyses, I'd like to hear of an ecig of any style lasting at least 2 to 6 months without replacement parts first.

my thoughts exactly
we need to know for how long the e-cig works with their genuine parts
not only a simple review of the first test
also the differences between the minis and the pen style