Anyone interested in Zenith RDA V2 Pre-orders?

[5cardstud]

I'm not going anywhere either and will wait however long. Might have to compensate myself by buying some kind of high wattage device!

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One thing you know. Your money is at least safe as I've seen him take money out of his own pocket to cover losses. His customers come first. Period. Know one likes to wait and as a matter of fact patience is one of the problems I spend a lot of time on.
He just wanted to bring a great device opportunity to his customers if they wanted it and is caught up in the same dilemma as everyone here. But rest assured you are safe from anyone ripping you off.

 

[Aawa]

I'm definitely glad that IKE is a very trustworthy vendor. I have sat through several pre-orders only to see them delayed. My APO by Ghetto Customs Inc was delayed 3 weeks, my Enigma was delayed almost 2 weeks, my Copper Quasar is delayed, my CHana mod was delayed, and the Zenith V2 is delayed.

Unfortunately delays are very much the norm when it comes to pre-orders. The Manufacturers need to have better estimated timelines for their products. Under promise and over deliver is the saying. Customers start getting antsy and anxious if the expected delivery date comes and goes and they do not have product in hand or a firm delivery date. The only protection that consumers have is knowing they have went through a trusted vendor, and thankfully Ikenvape is very trustworthy.

 

[5cardstud]

I'm definitely glad that IKE is a very trustworthy vendor. I have sat through several pre-orders only to see them delayed. My APO by Ghetto Customs Inc was delayed 3 weeks, my Enigma was delayed almost 2 weeks, my Copper Quasar is delayed, my CHana Mod was delayed, and the Zenith V2 is delayed.

Unfortunately delays are very much the norm when it comes to pre-orders. The Manufacturers need to have better estimated timelines for their products. Under promise and over deliver is the saying. Customers start getting antsy and anxious if the expected delivery date comes and goes and they do not have product in hand or a firm delivery date. The only protection that consumers have is knowing they have went through a trusted vendor, and thankfully Ikenvape is very trustworthy.

Very very well put.

 

[Marc411]

You folks are fortunate, I picked mine up from Vaperize Vapors and the communication has been awful. Unless I contacted them I got no updates on the delays which there have been three since the promise date. I tried to call them, phone disconnected so I had to file a claim though my bank.

Sad but they appear to be a little shady. It will give me a chance to buy from a reliable vendor on the next run.

 

[5cardstud]

You folks are fortunate, I picked mine up from Vaperize Vapors and the communication has been awful. Unless I contacted them I got no updates on the delays which there have been three since the promise date. I tried to call them, phone disconnected so I had to file a claim though my bank.

Sad but they appear to be a little shady. It will give me a chance to buy from a reliable vendor on the next run.

After all the vendors come through and the people have their units keep your eye on the classifieds. I'm sure there will be a couple there.
BTW I like your avi.

 

[Marc411]

After all the vendors come through and the people have their units keep your eye on the classifieds. I'm sure there will be a couple there.
BTW I like your avi.

LOL.... Thanks, self portrait.

My bigger concern is that they had production/manufacturing problems which normally results in pushing production to make up for lost ground. I work as an analyst in a production environment and this almost always leads to quality issues.

Hopefully the consumer won't pay the price on this first run with a product that has issues. It will all depend on the quality control people they have in place when they went back into production. I will most likely wait until the second production run just to be safe and find a reputable vendor.

 

[5cardstud]

Well luckily there's not a lot they can mess up on except design because these aren't complicated. Piece of metal with a hole, a couple screws, and then threads to screw it together. If it was an electronics or something like that then I would worry.

 

[Marc411]

Agreed! It been more on the clone side but poor threading, drilling and threading of posts have been talked about. I hope it doesn't for all the people that bought them because it's a great looking dripper. And I'm just a little OCD.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Well luckily there's not a lot they can mess up on except design because these aren't complicated. Piece of metal with a hole, a couple screws, and then threads to screw it together. If it was an electronics or something like that then I would worry.

Sorta. Actually, due to the simplicity of the design, any slight off-ness and we could be looking at real problems -- there's a lot that can go wrong. Just like that ever-so-slight issue with the first run of the Strata driptip being a hair too long and making contact with the center post of the Starta RDA -- no bueno! With mechanical devices, instead of something just not working, it may still "fire" but with issues you don't want (assuming the electronic devices on the other side have shut-off protection). It's a trade off for sure and one that needs to be really inspected before putting that tip up to the face and taking a drag.

 

[Iken]

Haha No Whammy's! Just kidding. We have many of them here and in time learned to accept them and treat them with delicate care such as offering cups of coffee in the morning

I love you guys so much. Thanks a ton for hanging in there and more importantly the good words. I'm glad you guys know that I have your back in anything and would do anything I can for you. It might take some time to get a good reply back to you and sometimes I may miss it, but I am trying my hardest guys. We're in that phase where we're too small to afford further employees and too big for us to handle. I would never leave you guys in the dark.

There is sound reasoning for the delay. Carlo CmII bit off more than he can chew this batch.He really is trying to appease everyone and anyone here. When you have a product that ignites like a firecracker beacon everyone wants in on it. Little did he know that the American market is vast. Land of possibilities? He took on so many orders, way more than the production department can handle and when the main machine broke down it halted everything. Customers just like you and I went from excitement to anxious, to angry awfully quick. Carlo didn't anticipate that customers such as us went full in by making the full cost of orders which led to even more pressure upon discovery. The latest batch that went (group-buy) out were rushed after the break down which led to imperfections such as driptips not fitting etc. Now he's back peddling making all replacements for them. This as I know personally is difficult to manage and maintain. It is certainly not easy to have a high demand just to have production screw everything up. The pressure is enough to break someone. If it wasn't for my friends, I would never have been fixed and set straight. If you guys are reading this. I cannot say thank you enough.You guys did allot more than you think. Back on track, Carlo is getting buried out there trying to set things right. He made promises that due to the circumstances he cannot keep no matter how much he wished otherwise. No one wants to be in this position ever. It's not about making money or having greed, it's about serving a quality product. We came far in this industry to the point were imperfections and duds are not acceptable regardless of the scenario or who is the supplier. It's easy to get to blinded in the rage and judgments taken in this fast pace market that has a flooding array of manufactures and vendors alike.
Inshort, We are getting delayed like KP to the 2nd week of June because they're trying too hard. Now, I can rush him but we can see the result of applying more pressure. We are the first in line to get produced and shipped however he wants to take special care of us to ensure we receive nothing but the best the Zenith can possibly offer and the perfection that it is known for. If you guys do sincerely want to cancel, I totally understand, but if you guys are going to cancel and still have that desire to own one of these. Please review this post carefully before making a sincere judgment. I relate to Carlo in so many ways and if he is taking the right precautions to ensure we have a flawless product, then I'm willing to wait for him. Nothing is better than seeing someone blow up so huge, then get knocked down to reassert themselves back into their former position. I know to him things are looking bleak, but I have that feeling that he will overcome this obstacle with flying colors. It's a golden magical moment that doesn't get to be experienced often.

Carlo, Here’s an excerpt from an email from a customer today. For feedback purposes.

Hi Isaac,

Apparently a number of people have already received the Zenith on a group buy, and according to their comments on FB, there are a number of quality control issues that have made them less than happy with their purchase. Drip tips not fitting are amongst the issues reported.
On that basis, and given the cost of the Zenith, I'd like to cancel my pre-order after all for a refund.

From Carlo Hello Isaac,

This is exactly the reason why there are delays, the last batch came out bad so they were scrapped and then the next one was rushed, Tell your friend who received a bad zenith to inform the retailer, we spent the last week replacing bad items.

Hello Isaac,

Thank you, that's why we are being careful about this current (your) batch, its most likely going to be the last one because of the bad rap of the last one., its getting expensive replacing them,

Regards

Carlo
CMII

 

[ccv1]

Carlo CmII bit off more than he can chew this batch.

Just kidding man, I'm with you. I'd much rather wait and get an item that is of the highest quality possible than to rush it through and end up with junk. Thanks for the update! I really appreciate it.


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[havok333]

I appreciate the update too and am more than willing to wait out the delays with you guys. As ADD as this vaping hobby has made me it seems, I'm an incredibly patient person.

So we were hoping that the RDAs would be in he mail to us about now, but a few extra weeks to wait really isn't that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. As my wife likes to tell everyone, even with cash in hand I spent 9 months deciding what HD TV I wanted to buy, and the LG plasma we wound up getting has worked out great!

I contend our society's patience started going downhill rapidly after the invention of the microwave oven...but that's a whole other tangent.

Just thankful that Ikenvape did this preorder in the first place. If not for such a highly regarded company offering this Zenith V2 chance I would have done without.

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[beckdg]

patience is one of the problems I spend a lot of time on.

it's funny how that works...

 

[Mr.Mann]

it's funny how that works...

That line was quite funny.

 

[vojvodic0421]

Isaac,

I know I recently sent you couple of emails almost demanding this darn thing. As per our conversation, I'm leaving for vacation on June 21st and coming back week later and my mail box will be unattended for a week and that is concern to me, even though I was excited to bring this atomizer with me. I know in your post it states that it got delayed until 2nd week of June. 2nd week of June meaning they will be shipped to you or will you have them in your possession at that time. I know I'm eager to get one of these bad boys as many others, but at this point in time I have the opportunity to order one from another vendor. Can you please respond to my message or email(s) to let me know if I'll be able to receive this item by June 20th.

Thanks for bearing with me.

 

[vibaka]

I pre-ordered some time ago, and although I want my product as much as the next guy or gal, I've got plenty to use in the meantime. I appreciate the updates immensely and intend to wait this out.

 

[ukeman]

I am late to the party (Zenith2) and just caught an RDA bug... when i saw a poster, on another forum, put a link up for a vendor that had them in I think yesterday I jumped and bought one even hadn't heard of the vendor.

Right after I bought it I saw a follow up post saying that vendor gave bad CS regarding QC accountability; a Zenith... all I can do is cross my fingers and hope I get a decent Zenith.

I think this was from a newer batch so the odds are good, but in the case where you have the unfortunately "normal" % of glitches, were it to be a lemon, I could be in trouble.

All I can say is, from a long time ago, Ikenvape Isaac is awesome... so good to see he's still going strong. At least you're all in good hands here!

 

[Keynith]

I am late to the party (Zenith2) and just caught an RDA bug... when i saw a poster, on another forum, put a link up for a vendor that had them in I think yesterday I jumped and bought one even hadn't heard of the vendor.

Right after I bought it I saw a follow up post saying that vendor gave bad CS regarding QC accountability; a Zenith... all I can do i cross my fingers and hope I get a decent Zenith.

I think this was from a newer batch so the odds are good, but in the case where you have the unfortunately "normal" % of glitches, were it to be a lemon, I could be in trouble.

All I can say is from a long time ago, Ikenvape Isaac is awesome... so good to see he's still going strong. At least you're all in good hands here!

The newer batches were the ones with bad finishes on the attys. I'd be weary.

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[ukeman]

The newer batches were the ones with bad finishes on the attys. I'd be weary.

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thanks
Bad finish i can live with (?)... bad functionality, I can't.

Actually what followed in this post was that this was from a vendor who had to have a whole pre order group sent back, and he received these for that pre order, and had some left over - i guess from folks who dropped out.

 

[Keynith]

thanks
Bad finish i can live with (?)... bad functionality, I can't.

The newest ones were right before the machines broke down. Isaac said the manufacturer offered them to him with the blemishes but he declined. Honestly, I am glad he didn't.

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