anything better than the ego line?

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Cartos vs clearos. It's so subjective, and you will find plenty of people who love or hate them , either one. But if you're not liking clearos, and I think that's what I understood. The try a cartomizer. I know people love them and maybe ill figure it out one of these days, but i have nothing but bad experiences with clearomizers, i've come to hate them. For a couple of bucks at least you will know if you like it/or it's right for you. I started vaping in 2009, ran into a wall kinda like you after spending a bunch o money, having no real success and getting monumentally frustrated, I DID run to the circle K a d vanished from the vaping world for a few years. I'd love to see that NOT happen to you. And I'm thinking it wont because youre already showing you are smarter than me by coming here and asking for help. There are so many people here who can and will help you over this "hump", violetsoda's post being an awesome example. You can definately do it if you want to make it work. There has already been a ton of good advice tossed your way, I'll share what did the trick for me and why. It was these ego mega batteries and some ego mega dual coil cartos. It could basically get me thru a whole day with no hassle. And hassle is the death knell when your trying to switch over in my opinion. I'm not telling you to go buy this, but for me it was the watershed moment. Egos seem to be a great starting off option, and there are enough options with them that you can find one that will work for you. I'm getting off track, there are plenty of people better to give you technical advice. I just wanted to encourage you to not give up on it. Even if you are still smoking while you work the kinks out, doesn't mean it's a failure. Just keep working through and you will find a solution that works for you! I so wished I woulda just slowed down a bit 3 years ago, but that's just water under the bridge and I'm not beating myself up for it. I'm now 30 days without a cigarette for the first time in 25 years.
I know it's frustrating as all get out at the moment, but stick with it, you'll be glad you did.
 

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Don't know where $200 came from but those links totaled less than $70 with free shipping and a lot of extra cartos. CCV puts a lot of extras in there as well. Not discrediting your love for the twist but if you know where to get one with two batteries, something to charge it with,20 cartos and 30ml of juice for $26 please post a link. You've also got to have cartos and liquid which come with the CCV kit as well as two batteries. I don't like the E-Power I have because Ego stuff doesn't fit the propriatary cone threading. Maybe they've changed that by now. I don't know.

A Provari, even on sale(@$160), after you buy extra batteries ($26 for 2), a charger ($16.95 - it's already over $200), and then pay for shipping will be well over $200...
 

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I'm at a loss then. The T2 Kangers have worked flawlessly for me right out of the package on my eGo-C Twists both 650 and 1000mah. For $4.50 I think they might be worth a try for you. just sayin

I gave away all my ego batts LOL only use the Reo and a tank on a Reo would be rather redundant LOL
 

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Cartos vs clearos. It's so subjective, and you will find plenty of people who love or hate them , either one. But if you're not liking clearos, and I think that's what I understood. The try a cartomizer. I know people love them and maybe ill figure it out one of these days, but i have nothing but bad experiences with clearomizers, i've come to hate them. For a couple of bucks at least you will know if you like it/or it's right for you. I started vaping in 2009, ran into a wall kinda like you after spending a bunch o money, having no real success and getting monumentally frustrated, I DID run to the circle K a d vanished from the vaping world for a few years. I'd love to see that NOT happen to you. And I'm thinking it wont because youre already showing you are smarter than me by coming here and asking for help. There are so many people here who can and will help you over this "hump", violetsoda's post being an awesome example. You can definately do it if you want to make it work. There has already been a ton of good advice tossed your way, I'll share what did the trick for me and why. It was these ego mega batteries and some ego mega dual coil cartos. It could basically get me thru a whole day with no hassle. And hassle is the death knell when your trying to switch over in my opinion. I'm not telling you to go buy this, but for me it was the watershed moment. Egos seem to be a great starting off option, and there are enough options with them that you can find one that will work for you. I'm getting off track, there are plenty of people better to give you technical advice. I just wanted to encourage you to not give up on it. Even if you are still smoking while you work the kinks out, doesn't mean it's a failure. Just keep working through and you will find a solution that works for you! I so wished I woulda just slowed down a bit 3 years ago, but that's just water under the bridge and I'm not beating myself up for it. I'm now 30 days without a cigarette for the first time in 25 years.
I know it's frustrating as all get out at the moment, but stick with it, you'll be glad you did.

Yes, you are the poster child for doing things the right way the first time. Unfortunately for you, back then your choices were so limited and so it is completely understandable why you failed the first time. Glad to have you back. Now you get a fancy schmancy ECF Veteran tag too.

Now, to address your argument that Cartos and Clearos are subjective as to which is better. Here are my thoughts on this. Cartos or Clearos, fact is, you're going to have to clean them every few days to get the best performance out of them. With a carto this entails boiling them for 15 minutes, then washing them out with a flavor injector syringe (put em inside and work the crap out of the thing with hot water till your arm falls off - then repeat for each carto...), then drying them out in the oven on 250f for 15 minutes, let them cool and then another 15 minutes so that you can use them again right away. Then you have clearos which you can take apart and wash them out (easy) and then dry them and then dry burn the coil (easy), let it cool, refill and use immediately. After say 30 days on the first coil you need to rewick it (easy) or buy a new one (waste of money). So couple those arguments together with the fact that cartos taste like polyfill and have inferior flavor to a clearo and I say it's no competition at all; clearos win. You can't rebuild a cartomizer for pennies.

I still have my Boges but honestly I use them to vape my junk juice (failed DIY experiments, remnants from my clearos that gets cooked until it's dark...cuz I'm frugal like that) and I dread when I have to clean them yet again. That said, if you must use a carto I do recommend Boges because they never seem to die. I call them the Lazarus (since smoktech stole Resurrector for a nice carto that dies like a dog after a short period of time lol). I mean if you got money to burn and you can afford to throw cartos away every 3 days or so then it's not a bad vape, but I gotta look at maintenance and frugality. I've spent more than enough on my habit to buy a nice truck or SUV brand new, with cash. I'm done doing that and I'm enjoying going out more.
 
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Thoughts on teh Smoktech VV gripper for an inexpensive option? I agree that juice/carto/clear/whatever is going to have to be figured out by the user, but ther are a good number of options for VV devices under 100 dollars. The gripper wont break the bank, reads atty resistance, shows battery charge, and will power a 1.5 ohm DCC all the way to 6 volts.
 

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A Provari, even on sale(@$160), after you buy extra batteries ($26 for 2), a charger ($16.95 - it's already over $200), and then pay for shipping will be well over $200...

That's true. But the links in the quote you were replying to weren't for a Provari. They were for an Epower from CCV. Didn't know the Vari was in the equation. I would agree the twist is about as good as it gets for a vv entry level device as far as I'm concerned.
 

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The ego will flash a few times when screwing it into a charger that is plugged in already, does it flash at that point?

Yeah, it'll flash like 10 times or more. More important is the charger's LED. Mine personally blinks red until it goes solid green and then I know I'm done charging. What I like about that feature is that it is colorblind friendly. Even if I think the red is fuschia I know when it goes solid we're good.
 

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How is the Ego Twist an entry level device when the Provari drops error codes like no one's business at max volts (6v) and the Lavatube secretly lowers your voltage (which is not accurate btw: check a meter) on a dual coil whenever it wants? If you ask around you will quickly find that with VV most people (like 90+%) lock and vape at just above 4v.... the Ego Twist does that. To vape at 6v you need a 4.5ohm coil to not melt it or get a reckless throat hit in the process. The only devices that come in 4.5ohm suck. All the popular devices DEFINITELY come in 3.0ohm though. That, besides price, is what makes the EGO Twist reign supreme.
 

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Ego's are great for a newbie. I used an Ego-T for over a year, I've been through type A & B and now Ego-C. I just got my first VV mod (The lambo from My Freedom Smokes) which I absolutely love. I vape for days without running out of power and the hits are consistent the whole time Plus I'm able to use all of my ego atty's. I'm currently waiting on my first tank to arrive for it, the Cartomator VV from vaperfexion.
 

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Yes, you are the poster child for doing things the right way the first time. Unfortunately for you, back then your choices were so limited and so it is completely understandable why you failed the first time. Glad to have you back. Now you get a fancy schmancy ECF Veteran tag too.

Now, to address your argument that Cartos and Clearos are subjective as to which is better. Here are my thoughts on this. Cartos or Clearos, fact is, you're going to have to clean them every few days to get the best performance out of them. With a carto this entails boiling them for 15 minutes, then washing them out with a flavor injector syringe (put em inside and work the crap out of the thing with hot water till your arm falls off - then repeat for each carto...), then drying them out in the oven on 250f for 15 minutes, let them cool and then another 15 minutes so that you can use them again right away. Then you have clearos which you can take apart and wash them out (easy) and then dry them and then dry burn the coil (easy), let it cool, refill and use immediately. After say 30 days on the first coil you need to rewick it (easy) or buy a new one (waste of money). So couple those arguments together with the fact that cartos taste like polyfill and have inferior flavor to a clearo and I say it's no competition at all; clearos win. You can't rebuild a cartomizer for pennies.

I still have my Boges but honestly I use them to vape my junk juice (failed DIY experiments, remnants from my clearos that gets cooked until it's dark...cuz I'm frugal like that) and I dread when I have to clean them yet again. That said, if you must use a carto I do recommend Boges because they never seem to die. I call them the Lazarus (since smoktech stole Resurrector for a nice carto that dies like a dog after a short period of time lol). I mean if you got money to burn and you can afford to throw cartos away every 3 days or so then it's not a bad vape, but I gotta look at maintenance and frugality. I've spent more than enough on my habit to buy a nice truck or SUV brand new, with cash. I'm done doing that and I'm enjoying going out more.


It appears to me that my thoughts on this may have disconcerted you, I'm sorry that that seems to be the case..

As for being the poster child for doing things right , I am the opposite. I've got more wasted money and time than I care to think about to back that up. Having done it wrong so many times, and so many ways yeah I have an opinion. I might have one anyway.

I wasn't trying to make an argument, I was merely, mildly suggesting than if the OP isn't liking clearos he might consider "trying" a $2-3 carto. For a couple of bucks I figured no harm no foul. Especially since I vastly prefer the cartos I have tried to the clearo's I have tried. I'll retract the recommendation and bow to your superior wisdom in this matter. Even though I am apparently wrong, and you have declared clearos to be superior ,I'm still not going to use them because cartos work better for me and I like them better..

I don't retract my sincere hope that the original poster figures it out, and finds something that works better for him. Nor my opinion that this is a great place to help him do that..

Just to be clear since you brought it up, I am no "veteran" of the forums, just look at my post count:) I just happened to have made my account several years ago..
 

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Seemed like the main focus of this thread was for one individual to kind of rudely argue with everyone who had an opinion that didn't agree with his lol. I'm sure the OP will get this figured out, different strokes for different folks and all that jazz. If you want some really good input I'd suggest checking out Igetcha69, Pbusardo, and Grimmgreen on youtube...it's like vape porn lol, and you can see what's out there without dropping multiple months of pay.
 

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Seemed like the main focus of this thread was for one individual to kind of rudely argue with everyone who had an opinion that didn't agree with his lol. I'm sure the OP will get this figured out, different strokes for different folks and all that jazz. If you want some really good input I'd suggest checking out Igetcha69, Pbusardo, and Grimmgreen on youtube...it's like vape porn lol, and you can see what's out there without dropping multiple months of pay.

That seems to be the biggest problem for many around here, failure to realize that not every solution will be the favorite of everyone.
 

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