anything better than the ego line?

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DaveP

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For the money you spent on the ecig you bought, "You coulda had a Provari!". Right now, they are selling blem Chrome Provaris for $140 (reg $179.95) and the Satin model (which I have) is $159.95. You have to buy a couple of batteries and a charger, but the total is a one time purchase with a one year warranty from a stateside vendor, Provape. 18650 IMR batteries are best but you have to buy the extended battery cap to use them. That's $24.95 that's a good option, although I think it's overpriced. Still, everything Provari that Provape sells is great quality made of stainless steel, not aluminum.

The Twist is a good option if you want to stay reasonable in price, but it's a disposable battery when it dies and you will spend $25 over and over again instead of buying $7 batteries for a mod.

Boge cartos are my daily vape. Yes, you have to toss them after about 3 days of use, but a box of 5 costs about $7 to $8 dollars. That's 15 days of vaping. I also like the Smoktech DCT dual coil carto tank. Either will give you great vapor and taste. The tank is good for at home use as well as out and about. Cartos are easy to fill and you can carry two or three in a pocket for a full day. I carry a 3ml sample bottle of juice that I refill when it's empty.

There are lots of options to save money over buying prefilled cartos. You can choose your juice if you buy empty cartos and fill them yourself. 100% PG works best, but you can vape 70pg/30vg and some use 50/50 mixes.
 
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Right now I'm turning my vape converts on to this:

Crystal Clear Vaping
They got the regulator fixed. It works great at 1.5 ohms.

and this:

Crystal Clear Vaping

I run these cartos on my provari at 4.4v. Lots of heat and flavor without burning the juice.

But you could do the same thing on Twist for $26 bucks instead of $200. Carl Sagan would save the money, bud.
 
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Wuzznt Me

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Don't know where $200 came from but those links totaled less than $70 with free shipping and a lot of extra cartos. CCV puts a lot of extras in there as well. Not discrediting your love for the twist but if you know where to get one with two batteries, something to charge it with,20 cartos and 30ml of juice for $26 please post a link. You've also got to have cartos and liquid which come with the CCV kit as well as two batteries. I don't like the E-Power I have because Ego stuff doesn't fit the propriatary cone threading. Maybe they've changed that by now. I don't know.
 

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I would like to just drip but I'm a maintenance supervisor for 3 apartment complex's I'm on the run 12hrs plus no time to even blow my nose... Guess i gotta deal with carts... Lemme know if you find one that works cuz sounds like you have had the same experience as me with them. lol

I use a bottom feeder mod, no need to drip anymore, just squeeze the bottle let it feed the juice into the atty and vape away. No more hassel of direct dripping with all the greatness of it. I use the ReoGrand bottom feeder, but there are others out there. The Old Goat, the Vmod, Bogger's Box, Hog's Mod to name a few. I use the HH.357 atty and the Cisco 306 both at 1.5 ohm on the Reo, and if I want a Variable Voltage eventually I will get the VVReoGrand, but right now I am perfectly happy with the 3.7 volt battery and the low resist atty.
 
Honestly, to answer your question, NO, not really. The EGO line is slowly dominating the market. Before the EGO Twist you had to pay over $100-200 to get a VV PV or bust out the soldering iron and lead free solder and make your own mod from scratch. NOW you can get a more sensible VV PV for MUCH MUCH much less. 20-26 bucks, to be precise.

The thing that is win about the EGO Twist is that, at 6v like on a Provairi you need a 4.5+ ohm atomizer (which is is pretty uncommon). With an EGO Twist you need only a 3.0ohm which is VERY common. At the end of the day it is for this very reason that so many provari users vape just above 4v. Why pay 8x + for something you'll never use (6v)? Plus, please tell me that pushing dozens of button combos is easier than simply twisting up or down to your sweet spot of voltage. I dare you. The EGO C Twist dominates the market; both in price, ingenious design, and in performace.


Well Said. I started off with the ego c twist and am loving every minute of it.
 

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Read the whole thread thus far and watched your video. First off, I want to say that I am very glad you decided to come ask for suggestions here instead of heading out to Circle K. I feel like we're still missing some pieces that could solve this for you.

I have a bit for you to consider, mostly points I didn't see covered in the other replies thus far (sorry if I missed any posts and info repeats itself here), suggestions, and questions:

1. Juice

You comment in the video that the ejuice is very thick. It does look thick, thicker than my 100% VG juice and as thick as my straight vegetable glycerine. Instead of modifying your devices, try adding a couple drops of distilled water to your juice to thin it out. If it's not wicking properly then modifying your clearo will not help, so far as I see it. The liquid is not travelling up the wicks properly because it's so thick, so what wick will be the lighter weight portion leaving even thicker juice behind. Once the juice is a bit thinner due to distilled water it should start wicking right; then you can start playing with the battery voltage and coil resistance to find the best flavour. Flavours come out differently at different voltage/resistance combinations, even burnt tasting if too hot an equation. If it tastes burnt, turn the Twist down.

I checked the ejuice you're using and it appears to be advertised as a PG juice on their site. I've not seen a PG juice as thick as it looks in your video which makes me suspicious; I don't have experience with altsmoke juices though. Either way, distilled water introduced drop by drop should thin it out. You may wish to do this either in a separate small bottle or just in a syringe (draw some air into the syringe after the juice and water, then shake to mix).

2. Tipping

You shake your device a lot in the video. When we talk about tipping, we are trying to describe a gentle tipping motion. Shaking the battery may worsen a short/loose wire if there is one in the battery. YMMV but I don't carry my top coil clearos in my purse or pocket any more because of the potential leaking when they get shaken. I also check my battery for juice on the connection every few hours when using those clearos and wipe with a q-tip as needed.

3. Flashing

If you press the eGo Twist button enough times it will flash. If there is a short circuit it will flash repeatedly and shut down. Is this the batteries fault or the clearomizers fault that yours is flashing? Check all your posts and be sure the battery is locked off before you fiddle with the post at all. You say your wife vapes; perhaps your wife has a 510 threaded carto or clearo filled with her own ejuice that you can test to see if the problem originates in the particular clearo you are currently using.

If what happened was a short then the Twist is doing what it is supposed to by flashing and shutting off the battery. This is good. You didn't just have a battery explode in your face. Score!

4. Power

You received your Twist 2 days ago. Have you charged it since then? How have you charged it? I have a 1000mah Twist and find that it needs charging nightly when using it as my main battery since I like to use it in it's upper range of voltage. The higher the voltage you use the faster it will use up it's energy and need charging. It doesn't seem like this is what the issue is but thought it worth mentioning.

5. Quality

It is entirely within reason that you may have a faulty battery and/or a faulty clearo and somehow your PG ejuice is way thick when it's not meant to be. Quality control is not perfect, even in the most wonderful manufacturer/retailer's stock. Just as there is a chance you'll hit jackpot on a slot machine, there is also the chance that at some point in your shopping you will receive faulty merchandise.

I have a black Twist and it seems like the dial at the bottom of yours has some kind of space between it and the tube. It should be a tight near flush fit. Hard to see in the video.

If your Twist is faulty then I imagine the site you bought it from will take it back. I'd suggest contacting them directly, including a link to the video you posted.

6. Patience

Not just for reading my novella here! :p I have had clearomizers that I unwrapped, filled, then tried vaping immediately that just refused to vape. After some frustration, instead of tossing them I now leave them overnight, filled with juice, then try the next day. Some cartos and clearos may also take up to a day to really get going and you have to almost baby them through it. I don't have this often but it happens. I've also had clearos that would play the game you seem to be describing: they will wick a tiny bit then taste burnt. Usually I find that those ones are closer to DOA than the aforementioned type that do nothing then vape fine the next day.

So be a little patient with new gear. It sucks, but it's the same as when you buy a handful of lighters for a roadtrip and discover a day into the drive that each one only lasts a few flicks. Does the Circle K carry the disposable cigarette shaped ecigs? Maybe pick one up as backup. Or ask the wife for a boost in that dept if she has her own gear. This can be figured out.
 

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We bought almost the identical setup from Altsmoke with clearomizers and their RY4 juice with ego twist batteries. We still have the 2 batteries and the juice is all gone....John loved it. We have changed over to Texas Tuff Tanks from Vapedudes.com and the taste is so much better. The twists are great batteries for traveling and wandering around with. I'd say order a 2nd battery and try a tank. You couldn't pay me to go back to clearomizers. I was over them in a week.
 

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We bought almost the identical setup from Altsmoke with clearomizers and their RY4 juice with ego twist batteries. We still have the 2 batteries and the juice is all gone....John loved it. We have changed over to Texas Tuff Tanks from Vapedudes.com and the taste is so much better. The twists are great batteries for traveling and wandering around with. I'd say order a 2nd battery and try a tank. You couldn't pay me to go back to clearomizers. I was over them in a week.

You don't like clearomisers why? have you tried the T2? That's the only one I've tried so far but I really like it. What do you prefer?
 

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You couldn't pay me to go back to clearomizers. I was over them in a week.

Took me less than a week although I did try about 8 of them, and all were junk in my opinion, they were all weak in flavor, some never worked properly, some didn't work at all, never got one to work longer than 3 days (and that was with flavorless juice from ecblend at 70/30 pg/vg), some were like trying to suck a strawberry through a straw among other things. I had to fiddle with the ego-t system and the ego-c system to make them work well, I didn't feel like fiddling around with yet another system. I wanted something at worked when I put it on my battery without having to go hunt up a video or a thread to tell me how to get it to work properly. Yeah, you couldn't pay me to go back to clearomizers or anything resembling them either :D

For me if it doesn't work properly out of the package it is junk. My atomizers have worked every single time straight out of the package, and any burnt flavor from the atty has always been user error when I was first learning to direct drip and again when I got my ReoGrand.
 

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Took me less than a week although I did try about 8 of them, and all were junk in my opinion, they were all weak in flavor, some never worked properly, some didn't work at all, never got one to work longer than 3 days (and that was with flavorless juice from ecblend at 70/30 pg/vg), some were like trying to suck a strawberry through a straw among other things. I had to fiddle with the ego-t system and the ego-c system to make them work well, I didn't feel like fiddling around with yet another system. I wanted something at worked when I put it on my battery without having to go hunt up a video or a thread to tell me how to get it to work properly. Yeah, you couldn't pay me to go back to clearomizers or anything resembling them either :D

For me if it doesn't work properly out of the package it is junk. My atomizers have worked every single time straight out of the package, and any burnt flavor from the atty has always been user error when I was first learning to direct drip and again when I got my ReoGrand.

I'm at a loss then. The T2 Kangers have worked flawlessly for me right out of the package on my eGo-C Twists both 650 and 1000mah. For $4.50 I think they might be worth a try for you. just sayin
 
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