Anything that will blow the Vamo out of the water?(at a decent price)

[Buzzsaw46]

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How is the Evic currently? With the latest firmware. This one seems pretty intriguing. I don't really like the one button operation devices. It sounds like that would be a bit of a hassle.

One button devices are not as bad as it would seem. At least the ProV isn't a hassle, I find myself accidently making adjustments to my Vamos power output leading to more frustration from a multi button device.

 

[Oktyabr]

I started reading this thread hoping that someone had just discovered the "vamo killer"!

The Vamo V2 isn't perfect, by any means. I wish the center pin was spring loaded and/or adjustable and the 510 threading was stronger too. I wish the drip well had a removable cap for ease of cleaning and to make up for not being wide enough for Kanger T3s. I wish it had a couple of holes punched in it for some sort of a lanyard, etc.

That said I love mine. It's a "game changer" in the sense that the bar has really been raised (lowered?) in packing that many features into a reasonably well built mod at an extremely attractive price. I've only had mine for a month but it was a BIG part of the equation that got me off of the old smokies... and if it broke tomorrow I'd happily shell out another $36 for a new one (or two, for a backup) AND still feel like I got "my money's worth" out of it.

I'm skeptical of the single button devices as well. Even watching Phil's videos it seems like an awful lot of steps to go through (on a screen with a funny position) just to check resistance, etc. I think the Vamo is well laid out and can only think of two improvements to the software... being able to check VV/VW setting *without* having it go up or down and being able to lock it so only the fire button works. That's it.

I've pulse oxidized SS coils with it, it's replaced my DMM for building coils, likes my elcheapo 2.6 ohm clearos AND I can still hit 1.5 ohm drippers with it, and it comes with everything you need to run a myriad of battery configurations, no extra tubes to purchase involved.

I like some of the features of the SVD, only wish they would have put the screen perpendicular to the tube length, vamo style. If the price of it ever hits the $40 mark I'll probably make one of them my next vamo replacement but until then? The vamo has no equal in the "bang for buck" department... YET.

 

[Sarl K]

...being able to check VV/VW setting *without* having it go up or down...

Hold the + or - button down instead of clicking it. Before it switches to show atty ohms or battery volts, it will tell you the current volt or watt setting.

 

[wv2win]

There "might" be a better VV/VW PV but the Vamo is pretty much alone on all 'round bang for buck.

I have the Darwin and Vamo and the Darwin is built better. BUT, as you said, when it comes to "bang for the buck", the Vamo can't be beat, IMO. Plus a variable wattage PV just has it over variable volt.

 

[Buzzsaw46]

Being able to lock the output would be a big improvement for me, another thing that bugs me is the power down with battery change. I had my Vamo running in VV mode set to 3.7v the last time I changed a battery. So it took 12 button pushes to turn it back on and reset the voltage. Not the end of the world, but none of that is required to continue vaping after a battery change with my ProV. The ProV does require 13 button pushes to check ohms, but how often do you need to check your resistance?... I know I change batteries more than I check resistance.

The Vamo really does seem to hit the sweat spot between features, price, and quality.

 

[wv2win]

I like my vamo, but I think of it more as novelty than anything. It's a China made mod. I would be extremely surprised if I get 6 months out of it. I got because it was cheap ($35) and I wanted to play around with VW. I put a R2D2 wrap on it as a gag and pull it out just as a conversation piece.

I have no clue why you would think it is a novelity. You can knock it on the cost and the probable less than steller workmanship. But variable watt is just a better means to regulate power than variable volt. VW should be the future of variable vaping not VV.

 

[Nitrust]

I can tell you this, I got the Evic, and I preordered the Vamo on the same night. When my Vamo arrived, I sold my Evic.

The Vamo is a superior device, and since then, the Evic I sold to a buddy, was dropped once and now its dead!

 

[ibezee]

Just bought a Sigelei Vmax V3 from here ElectronicStix.Com · Sigelei Telescoping ZMax V3

I also own a Vamo V2 black chrome. I'll see how they stack up against each other.

 

[Buzzsaw46]

I haven't been sold on VW, I prefer VV for the most part thus far. I wont say your wrong for preferring VW, but it is not all that for everyone. It's good to have options

 

[wv2win]

I haven't been sold on VW, I prefer VV for the most part thus far. I wont say your wrong for preferring VW, but it is not all that for everyone. It's good to have options

I think the majority of people in general want their vaping to be as close to automatic as smoking was. They aren't tinkerers and fiddlers but just want to be able to vape and not have to fool any more than necessary with it. They want consistency. That is why I see VW being a better long term vaping platform for the majority. Mech PV's and RBA's for example will always be around for those who like to tinker. But the majority, based on human nature, want consistency, fill and forget vaping.

 

[Nitrust]

If you look up "bang for buck" in the vaping section of the dictionary. You will see the Vamo V2

 

[Oktyabr]

The ProV does require 13 button pushes to check ohms, but how often do you need to check your resistance?... I know I change batteries more than I check resistance.

You might check it more often if you only had to hold down a single button for 3 seconds! Actually I wonder about that... I change devices *a lot* on my Vamo. I rarely take more than 10 puffs in a row out of the same tank, dripper, whatever. I am quite compulsive about checking the resistance, especially if I run VV mode. Maybe if it was more difficult to find out I wouldn't bother to check it so often?

 

[ibezee]

I don't really notice any difference in VV vs VW other than the fact that when I change batteries when it's in VW it won't reset to the default 3.0 like when its in VV. So in that sense I prefer the VW, so I can change batteries and continue vaping like normal. Just my $0.02

 

[Oktyabr]

I think the majority of people in general want their vaping to be as close to automatic as smoking was. They aren't tinkerers and fiddlers but just want to be able to vape and not have to fool any more than necessary with it. They want consistency. That is why I see VW being a better long term vaping platform for the majority. Mech PV's and RBA's for example will always be around for those who like to tinker. But the majority, based on human nature, want consistency, fill and forget vaping.

Seen this VW e-cig for beginners of the future yet?



I imagine we'll be seeing 510 connection VW "Twist" and "Spinners" in the next couple of months too.

 

[mogium]

Yes evic will run evod

 

[Buzzsaw46]

Fill and forget is what my ProV provides. Much more so than my Vamo. My Vamo seems to be more inconsistent as the battery dies, while my ProV gives very consistent performance till the low battery light flashes. When I used carto tanks I would go months without adjusting voltage or feeling it necessary to check resistance. Now that I'm using mostly genesis attys I check the resistance once the coils seem stable, set my voltage to taste and forget about it. I just don't see an advantage to VW in my rutine, if you do that's fine, but it is not the be all, end all for everyone.

 

[Stephenst4470]

It's really hard to beat the Vamo for the $. I have a lot of more expensive PV's (including two Provaris) and my Vamo still gets regular use. I also like it the best for building RBA's, as the menu is so easy to navigate.

 

[wv2win]

Fill and forget is what my ProV provides. Much more so than my Vamo. My Vamo seems to be more inconsistent as the battery dies, while my ProV gives very consistent performance till the low battery light flashes. When I used carto tanks I would go months without adjusting voltage or feeling it necessary to check resistance. Now that I'm using mostly genesis attys I check the resistance once the coils seem stable, set my voltage to taste and forget about it. I just don't see an advantage to VW in my rutine, if you do that's fine, but it is not the be all, end all for everyone.

Well my Darwin, being exceptionally well made and VW, will do the same to your Provari. But it is electronically impossible for any VV PV to automatically adjust to changes in resistence which is what a good VW PV does. I've always stated that the provari is an excellent PV, one of the best. But it doesn't do what an equally well made VW PV can do. I do like that the Vamo has a 5 amp switch whereas the Provari only has a 3 amp switch if I'm not mistaken. I would rather have all options available to me.

 

[withravenoushunger]

By the way what is the difference with mechanical mods and in what ways are they better? I'm also gonna look into things like the Tesla, Lavatube, and Silver Bullet.

 

[Jeremy Evans]

Well my Darwin, being exceptionally well made and VW, will do the same to your Provari. But it is electronically impossible for any VV PV to automatically adjust to changes in resistence which is what a good VW PV does. I've always stated that the provari is an excellent PV, one of the best. But it doesn't do what an equally well made VW PV can do. I do like that the Vamo has a 5 amp switch whereas the Provari only has a 3 amp switch if I'm not mistaken. I would rather have all options available to me.

Evic adjust Volts to hit a target Wattage when you change attys and they have different resistances