if you like that go over to catfish and hop in his list for the stumpy. it is much better flavor and vapor than the derringer.
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if you like that go over to catfish and hop in his list for the stumpy. it is much better flavor and vapor than the derringer.
For me, it's easier to position coils- no bending the wire before hand. And with 3 posts you still have to get 2 leads in the center, so it's not any easier than 2 posts.
In thinking about the airflow characteristics of the two post atty.....one must ponder what the affect of the center post not being there to provide turbulence to help mix the vapor. Hmmmm......is that what is causing the good flavor in the manta/stumpy or is it the shape of the top cap/chamber size?
the room is needed for the temp control. you should give it a try. i use both mech and temp control. just 2 completely different vapes. its kinda fun to play with something new. thats why i got it
i think its the shape of the top cap and reduced chamber. some people are doing a single coil in the stumpy. but in the center in between the 2 posts. leaving both afcs open. i havent tried it like that yet but it is supposed to rock.
I saw that single coil stumpy build but....i cant see getting good flavor out of that build. There is no way airflow is hitting the entire coil. Way too far from the air source and really out of the natural path of airflow through the atty. If the centered coil is mounted high enough though I guess it would work.
Sorry I'm a pilot so I'm always concerned with the "aerodynamics" going on[emoji15]
i agree. and the guy who likes it like that vapes unflavored. i use it it the traditional way right in front of the airholes. it does have killer flavor tho.
Yeah if you are a flavor junkie like me, you never take advice on an atty from someone who vapes unflavored. 
Seeing how I'm a flavor junkie, I never take atty advice from a guy who vapes unflavored.
Seeing how I'm a flavor junkie, I never take atty advice from a guy who vapes unflavored.
i hear ya. but i will prob try it anyway cause it only takes a couple minutes to coils up a new build.
I tried it and it was meh... of course, I MTL only, and get the best flavor from anything with the coils almost touching the airholes (necessary, I'm guessing, because of the restricted airflow) I could see it working a little better with lots of air from both sides. But not for me
I will pass. Too rich for my blood. I try to spend my vape funds on building inventory to provide for you guys. Maybe down the road I will.
The stumpy is a great little atty. I'm running one with a single 26g 2mm ID, side mounted (close to the air intake) on a Sunbox. The thing screams vapor and flavour, both of which surprised the heck out of me.
The build couldn't be easier, and the results put many another atty to shame. I tried the overhead monocoil that Russ and others champion and it's very good, but not appreciably better than the simple single side coil.
Is it better than the Derringer? I'd say slightly, in terms of flavour, dead tie for vapor production, and definitely with respect to build flexibility (more deck space to play with). There's also a reduced chance of post loosening/rotation due to the design.
The build couldn't be easier, and the results put many another atty to shame. I tried the overhead monocoil that Russ and others champion and it's very good, but not appreciably better than the simple single side coil.
Is it better than the Derringer? I'd say slightly, in terms of flavour, dead tie for vapor production, and definitely with respect to build flexibility (more deck space to play with). There's also a reduced chance of post loosening/rotation due to the design.
How is vapor density and throat hit in your opinion? The center post on the D leaves a lot to be desired for sure. I find the derringer more of a dry vape than say a manta or the forge v2
Well, I'm looking forward to trying the Forge, as you know, so no idea there.
I find the Manta to be a good "percolated" vape, like I used to get out of, say, a kayfun (or, at least, as I remember them). I get what you're saying about the derri being a tad scratchy, and I'd say the Stumpy is more like the vector in terms of intensity - more wet with plenty of TH. I'm doing about 25W (5.1-ish V) through the single 26g coil and I can do full-on lung inhales with plenty of wallop and clouds to fill a room. It definitely delivers the air without the immediacy of the derri.
That said, we're talking "great" to "super great" comparisons, not "bad" to "good".
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