Are cig looking PV devices only for the entry level?

[wv2win]

I am not all that old to this stuff yet but I like the cig sized batteries. I also like the ego sized stuff too but thats as big as I plan to go. I look at these mods and stuff and can see cops around here messing with some one puffing on some of these things. Maybe it does not help that I work in a place that sells items for smoking other stuff and those items remind me of some of the mods I see on here but I just can't see my self ever wanting a mod. I like the cig sized batteries because they fit in my pocket well, I can pull it out take a few puffs and slip it back in my pocket.

The vast majority of cops could care less what you vape. I give more information to cops/sheriffs on what PV to buy than any other sub-group. I vape in front of cops/deputies all the time with no problems. And you must have very strange pockets if you can fit a regular pen in them but not a sharpie pen. I don't see the logic here.

 

[wv2win]

Great feedback everyone and boy does it all ring true.
I really don't have a frame of reference of what may be better, since I've only tried the KR808 cig styles.
They aren't even LR, since the cig style batteries won't take the load I've always gone with 3.0.
Sailorman, your reply made me laugh out loud. I glanced over at my collection of eight different KR808 batteries and thought about the PCC's and so on that I've tried.... The only constant thing I've learned to stick with is Backwoods Brew ejuice. If Don ever retires I'll be lost... I've got the SD Keyrings and LR510 cartomizers on the way to me now so I'll be stalking the mailman for the next few days Thank you all for the responses. I'll post my honest opinion of if I notice a difference from using the bigger battery with low resistance cartomizers vs the standard KR808 stuff.
I also confessed to my wife that I had ordered even more ecig stuff. I thought she'd ban me from the internet, but instead she reminded me about how much money I used to spend on cigs. Even through the KR808 stuff hasn't completely gotten me off cigs, it has still cut my smoking down to less than half of where I was. Even the indoor smoking bans didn't have this big an effect

The fact that you are still smoking should tell you quite a bit about your model PV. Once I moved up to a better battery model, I was able to quit completely. The more you can simulate the "inhaled feel" of smoking (warmer vapor, more consistency, less hassle = better batteries), the much better chance you have to transitition completely.

 

[N rustica]

i started out on an ego/riva and if the battery didn't last as long as that, i think i would've given up on it.

that said, i want to try out different things and have spares, i want to backward trek from the ego and see what it's like to use an automatic. halo offers one that is switchable between auto/manual. it's more expensive price than an ego setup and makes it a deal breaker.

i want my first cig sized one to be the best i can find and not waste any time with garbage. i've seen a couple of sub $10 ecigs get positive reviews like the mystic from walmart and the square 6 disposable. these newer less expensive devices can be game changers and get many many more people into vaping nicotine and not feeling that ripped off.

 

[djwyman]

The vast majority of cops could care less what you vape. I give more information to cops/sheriffs on what PV to buy than any other sub-group. I vape in front of cops/deputies all the time with no problems. And you must have very strange pockets if you can fit a regular pen in them but not a sharpie pen. I don't see the logic here.

so sorry that the cops in my area don't know much about this stuff, so sorry I like a small ecig in my pocket instead of a big one, so sorry for giving my opinion in a forum were it was asked. As I said before i like the ego sized stuff as well in fact I just ordered the firefly kit from Liberty flights and it should be in monday or so. Even after receiving my firefly kit I still plan to use my 510 stuff...I mean heck I bought them so I might as well get all of the use I can out of it and again I like the size and in the end that is what matters. if you like your big strange looking mods and want to walk around with such then fine I am happy for you and in the end thats what you like but don't bash me for it not being what I like.

 

[wv2win]

so sorry that the cops in my area don't know much about this stuff, so sorry I like a small ecig in my pocket instead of a big one, so sorry for giving my opinion in a forum were it was asked. As I said before i like the ego sized stuff as well in fact I just ordered the firefly kit from Liberty flights and it should be in monday or so. Even after receiving my firefly kit I still plan to use my 510 stuff...I mean heck I bought them so I might as well get all of the use I can out of it and again I like the size and in the end that is what matters. if you like your big strange looking mods and want to walk around with such then fine I am happy for you and in the end thats what you like but don't bash me for it not being what I like.

I'm fine with you using with whatever works for you. I just don't want some new person to read this thread and then think the police are on the prowl for people vaping because they are not regardless of what their PV looks like. And the more people are upfront and open about vaping in public, the more everyone will learn about vaping and the many positive aspects. I'm glad my PV looks nothing like a cigarette. The last thing I want is for people to think I still smoke which is the problem many have had with the cig look alike models.

 

[wv2win]

........i want my first cig sized one to be the best i can find and not waste any time with garbage. i've seen a couple of sub $10 ecigs get positive reviews like the mystic from walmart and the square 6 disposable. these newer less expensive devices can be game changers and get many many more people into vaping nicotine and not feeling that ripped off.

Unfortunately many of the mini-battery models have poor and inconsistent performance that turns people off of vaping and back to smoking. I've run into so many people who tried a Blu or SE or Mistic and told me they were a hassle, didn't work well, were inconsistent and the batteries quit on them so they went back to smoking. When I told them there were better models available, most just said: been there, done that, it's just a scam. I actually could understand their point.

 

[T-Mac]

I think if it works for you and you're satisfied you dont need a mod. Whatever keeps you off ciggs and happy.

This says it all IMO.

 

[SABOTEUR]

I know a couple of vapers who use, and are very happy with "cigarette style" pvs. What they both have in common is that they're unaware of the existence of the vast online vaping community. In short, they haven't been exposed to anything else.

Reminds me of a funny incident that occurred 2 weeks ago. One of the cig style vapers excitedly shared a NEW DEVELOPMENT her ecig company had introduced.

She can now refill her cartridges!

Didn't have the heart to tell her this was hardly a new development. I merely smiled and told her how wonderful this "new development" was.

She's happy with her purchase. As long as her pv performs for her, she'll probably never use anything else.

 

[SABOTEUR]

I never thought I would move beyond the eGo myself, but purchasing the HH.357 Cisco Spec Hybrid Atomizer (Avid Vaper) changed that. I burned out 2 new eGo batteries on this atomizer before I was forced to FOLLOW THEIR INSTRUCTIONS to only use the atomizer with 3.7 volt devices.

Purchased a box mod to go with the atomizer and I haven't looked back.

 

[jjcordone]

To update everyone.
I did purchase some LR510 vertical coil cartomizers and an SD Keyring.
The difference between this combination and the KR808 stuff I had been using was tremendous.
I had a pair of all the best KR808 batteries and vertical coil cartomizers.
The vapor they put out was pretty much equivalent to the amount of smoke a cigarette produces, so I thought I was onto the best combination I could find. After trying the 510 low resistance vertical coil cartomizers, I lost interest in my KR808 stuff completely. Luckily I was able to pass it all on using the classifieds here on ECF. I gave another member a great deal and got back some funding to move forward. I've been using the SD Keying when I'm someplace where I want to blend in with the other smokers. I picked up an eGO and I've been using it while driving and such. I also picked up an eGo that has the built in charger/pass through capability and I've using that one at home. I now have my eye on a DCT tank with dual coil cartomizers from Liberty Flights, so I guess that will be my next step. The bottom line is you guys were right. The bigger batteries and low resistance stuff is a huge improvement over the cig looking stuff. They produce more vapor than a cigarette produces smoke. The vapor is thicker and warmer than the KR808 stuff. The flavors of the ejuice come through much better, especially with tobacco flavored juices. Thank you all for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience. It really helps with the vast amount of stuff out there to chose from....

 

[Bullwinkle]

I started with some KR8s. And the burned polyfill from the cartos almost sent me back to smoking full time. They were not enough to actually quit the stinkies. Then I bought a bunch of 510 mini batts and chain-vaped, dripping with 36mg, until I killed them. Still sucked.

At least all that led me to here. And that is a great thing but about all they were good for.

My opinion is that analog lookalikes are pure junk and a waste of money. That doesn't mean they don't have some good attributes for some people, just that if you are truly addicted to nicotine and want to switch they aren't the best option or the best value and probably turn as many people away from vaping as they convert. Getting people to give up combustion for vaping is tough. I've been dealing with it for years with my friends and if the first few vaping experiences aren't good, folks tend to fall back to their accustomed habits.

Just the thought of quitting with patches or gum or cold turkey scared the crap out of me. One day with a true 3.7, LR atty, and the appropriate juice turned that upside down and now I would rather DIAF than ever puff an analog or chew some Skoal again. The combustion that I used to love became repulsive overnight, all thanks to the right vaping setup.

 

[John Phoenix]

Most people get cigarette like e-cigs as entry level devices because that is what they are first most exposed to. This is the type you see on lots of TV commercials and sold in malls. Then they learn whats out there and find better.

I have a few e-cigs that are larger than a cigarette type - Riva 3.7 volt, Old Goad 5 Volt regulated box mod, LavaTube variable voltage 3 to 6 volts - Because I wanted an e-cig with more power for a better hit and has more e-liquid to last longer.

If they made a cigarette size and style e-cig that did have at least 5 volts and a larger e-liquid capacity, I would buy and use it. Sadly, we cannot make the more powerful battery's small enough to do this yet.

 

[Trilly]

Honestly this topic is personal preferance, taste and budget (the purse strings for many of us will play a big part in this)

I started with 808s and was happy with them, it was actually my hubby that bought me my eGo, why? because he thought it would be easier than having to keep recharging all the time, for about 6 weeks I tried using the eGo as my main pv but while it was ok and I admit the battery life was good it was the same effect as my 808's. For me at least I didn't care what it looked like (as long as it wasn't too outrageous) as long as it kept me away from the stinky sticks so guess what, I'm still on the 808's and perfectly happy with them, I keep my eGo's charged and in good working order but tend to use them as back ups or if I'm on a night out and not taking a handbag with me (easier to just stick a small bottle of juice and an eGo in my pocket than my pcc).
DH keeps saying I would be better off with an even larger battery or even a box mod (can't you tell he's the gadget geek in the house) but my argument has and always will be, why change something that is working just fine and waste a lot of money of some pretty pretty shiney shiney thing that like a lot of other things will end up collecting dust in a drawer (hmmm let me think, pda, several gps units, countless phone covers spring to mind here).
Some of the posts on here indicate that cig lookelikes are either entry level or at worst, a bad representation of pv's and vaping but it worked for me and the fact that I am getting close to 6 months now is testiment to that, I don't care, for me it has worked and I know a fair few others that it has worked for too.

 

[MrLunatic]

There is a man that comes to our local meets every month and he has all pen styles, hes been vaping a year and a half i believe and has no interest in a mod at all. he actually won a mod in a raffle we had a few meets back and he either ended up giving it away or keeping it for very rare use.

Bottom line is that if your not smoking cigarettes and your happy with what you have then thats all that really matters.

 

[jwtaylor27]

Been vaping for a little over a year now and all I use is smaller style pv's. I have a Halo G6, Joye 510 and yes I still use the dreaded blu which I love. This is talked about on here daily and in the end it boils down to finding a pv that fits your lifestyle.

 

[BiffRocko]

I think I found a compromise and today I placed an order for an SD Keyring and a box of low resistance 510 catomizers. The SD is so small it will be easy to not stand out with it. I'll report back how it goes with the device.

Most LR attys recommend that you use a battery with at least 450 mAh. The SD Keyring is 350mAh. It will probably still work, but it's going to stress the battery and shorten its life significantly.

 

[jjcordone]

Another update.... I bought an eGo and it's worked so well that I ended up losing interest in the SD Keyrings.
I sold one in the classifieds and I just listed the second one I had. Once you get used to them, manuals really do work better than automatics. More control etc... I'm really liking the eGo's. I went with the smaller 650's. The size really isn't really that much different from the cig looking PV's, fatter but about the same length. Actually more comfortable to use IMHO. The battery life is perfect for me, lasts the whole work day for me. Just for variety I picked up one of the pass through eGo's too and I just ordered a DCT tank from Liberty Flights. My plan is to have two eGo's in my daily rotation and use the longer pass through with the tank at home. I'm still torn between the cartomizer selection. I had bought some 3.0 ohm ones after reading exactly the same thing that BiffRocko states above. The 3.0 ohm ones are completely different on the eGo's than they were on the cig looking PVs. Warmer vapor, maybe because of the manual battery?
This stuff is addictive for us impulse buyers I bought too many eGo's during my test and select process, so I'll be selling a couple of them. It's great having the classifieds section here on ECF. Instead going to waste, I'm able to pass along things to other members, saves folks money and helps recover some of what I spent. Cost wise, the eGo's are out there at about the same price as the cig looking PV's. Anyway, I'm going to settle into my three eGo solution for the time being and stop buying stuff for now before my wife kills me

 

[wv2win]

Being in and out of Quiktrips and Racetrack gas stations frequently, I've asked employees in three different locations how well their cig style PV's sell. In all three locations, I was told they sell well but 90% of them are returned for a refund because the buyer was not satisfied with how they performed. One employee told me the most common comment was that the vapor was cold and weak. One employee told me he tells some customers not to waste their money and that "e-cigs" are just a fad.

I know that some mini's are better than others (like the Volt which I recommend to light smokers), but I contend that most of these models keep people smoking, viewing it as a scam, more than it gets them to look for better models and switch to vaping.

 

[tica02]

I actually had an e-power 14650 and I sent it back and ordered a Halo G6 in it's place. The large size was really just not for me. Some people were sort of apalled that I didn't even take it out of the box before I sent it back but I really wasn't interested in it. I'm planning on exchanging it for a kGo but I don't know if that will ever get used either. I'm excited about the Halo, it should be here tomorrow. It's got really good reviews for a smoke size pv. If by some chance it doesn't work for me, then I'll have the kGo to fall back on.