Are Mechs Dead?
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They're still great to have around as backups and/or out and about devices that you might bang around or drop.
But with higher wattage regulated devices ... the need for them has dwindled substantially. Still, the simplicity and sleekness of them are cosmetically appealing to most people. And again, they can take a beating.
Are they dead? No
Are they falling out of fashion and back into their old "niche" market? Probably
But with higher wattage regulated devices ... the need for them has dwindled substantially. Still, the simplicity and sleekness of them are cosmetically appealing to most people. And again, they can take a beating.
Are they dead? No
Are they falling out of fashion and back into their old "niche" market? Probably
For reasons I can't fully elucidate, I prefer using my mechanical and unregulated mods more than I do my regulated devices. Perhaps it is the simplicity of mechs which appeals to me. Pick one up, hit the button, and vape - no fiddling with menus and displays.
With that said, I am very fond of my SX Mini. Enough so that I'll likely purchase the upcoming M class version... which may also be the last regulated device I buy in the foreseeable future.
With that said, I am very fond of my SX Mini. Enough so that I'll likely purchase the upcoming M class version... which may also be the last regulated device I buy in the foreseeable future.
After every regulated mod other than my Provari as eventually broken, nope.
Mechs will always be around.
The newer the vaper, the less likely they are to use mechs.
Heck, most reg mod users think you still have to subohm on them to get power.
Also, a lot of the reg box users that I know never could build very well. A high powered box takes any skill or knowledge out of the equation.
All you have to do is put any old coil on it, stuff a wad of cotton in it, and turn it up until you are chucking clouds.
The main thing to me, though, is durability. I bought an authentic Hana. Lasted 4 months.
Segelei 100 watt - intermittently wont fire.
Couple of billet boxes laying around - dont work.
My first mech that I bought - works perfectly.
Also, i can roll all day with my Silver Dog Hybrid genny wrapped at one ohm, in 18650 mode, blows plenty of vapor and lasts 9 hours or so before I get a truly noticeable drop in performance.
In short, I dont think that very many new vapers are going to learn how to set up mechs properly, and at least half of current vapers dont want to be bother with what it takes to make a me h mod shine.
Therefore, mechs will use a smaller market share, but never go away
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Mechs will always be around.
The newer the vaper, the less likely they are to use mechs.
Heck, most reg mod users think you still have to subohm on them to get power.
Also, a lot of the reg box users that I know never could build very well. A high powered box takes any skill or knowledge out of the equation.
All you have to do is put any old coil on it, stuff a wad of cotton in it, and turn it up until you are chucking clouds.
The main thing to me, though, is durability. I bought an authentic Hana. Lasted 4 months.
Segelei 100 watt - intermittently wont fire.
Couple of billet boxes laying around - dont work.
My first mech that I bought - works perfectly.
Also, i can roll all day with my Silver Dog Hybrid genny wrapped at one ohm, in 18650 mode, blows plenty of vapor and lasts 9 hours or so before I get a truly noticeable drop in performance.
In short, I dont think that very many new vapers are going to learn how to set up mechs properly, and at least half of current vapers dont want to be bother with what it takes to make a me h mod shine.
Therefore, mechs will use a smaller market share, but never go away
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For you maybe, op.
I started on Egos and moved to Regulated. Expanded to Mechanical mods. Expanded more into newer Regulated mods.
I like ALL my Vape gear and see no reason to think any one type is outdated.
I carry a Regulated to work, and 3 mech Mods. I know even if a Regulated mod decides to puke a chip, I can count on my mech to get me through.
I started on Egos and moved to Regulated. Expanded to Mechanical mods. Expanded more into newer Regulated mods.
I like ALL my Vape gear and see no reason to think any one type is outdated.
I carry a Regulated to work, and 3 mech Mods. I know even if a Regulated mod decides to puke a chip, I can count on my mech to get me through.
Rather redundant thread Someone else beat you to this one a good week and 154 posts ago. ~> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/mechmods/647986-mechanical-mods-going-way-dodo-bird.html
(The answer is: no.)
(The answer is: no.)
True but to be fair the newer vapor (me) has pictures of people with blown off hands shown to them like it happens all the time. Then the B&M's are pushing regulated mods with the pitch of venting batteries etc. It's no wonder. There is a ton of intrepidation and fear that comes with it. I understand the caution but there is a ton of it. Then there is the other side telling you "oh you want to try a mech what you want to cloud chase only now? Why don't you get a beanie to go with it...hipster" So with all that its easy to be shy concerning mechs.
But give us newbies time =) I myself have been slowly evolving. I am appreciating everything about vaping. Even more now that I have been building my own coils on a RDA. I didn't think I'd touch a RDA now I am comfortable. I love the hands on part of vaping...to me its what its all about....its the soul of vaping. But Its a process for me. I can't wait to try using a mech. They are so beautiful but I want to be smart about it and appreciate what I am doing.
I guess my main point is with all the negative press about mechs given to new vapors it has been almost regulated to a niche "veteran" group anyway. We are almost encouraged to stay away. But some of us do want to get in and play =)
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What are you using now? =)
Accidents can happen when people are not careful or not educated or both....
Things you need....
1) an ohm reader (or multi meter) which you should and hopefully do already have....preferably one that reads to hundredths. You want your build to read stable ohms during build and after wicking. Hard shorts can rapidly discharge a battery. You don't want shorts.
2) some high quality high drain imr 18650 batteries that support a continuous discharge rating of 30 amps (preferably) . The higher the better, lol like a safety net.
3) a mod with a locking firing pin and good vent holes (these are important safety measures) you don't want a mod accidentally firing in a pocket or purse and if something does go wrong with a battery the mod will be able to vent without exploding.
4) a good ohms law calculator so that you can calculate the resistance of the build in relationship to the amount of amps it will draw. This way you know you are within the safe limits of your batteries.
http://www.ohmslawcalculator.com/ohms_law_calculator.php
And this one is good for building and battery life... http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp
5) a good battery charger that does not over charge batteries...I have an I4 nitecore. As soon as you notice your vape quality decreasing, charge your batteries.
6) read the baditude blogs on batteries and running a mech. They are really helpful.
Mechs are a great vaping experience and with a little care, knowledge and common sense can be a terrific addition to your vape gear. =)
That's a whole lot to explain to a brand new vaper who is going through cig withdrawal and learning so many new things. Many people grow into mechs. We want people to be safe. Being safe requires an understanding of how ohms law works with regard to vaping.
So I think you can see why vets encourage people to walk before they run.....
(sent from an alien device which translates English into Klingon without my approval)
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And why so many of us cringe to hear about shops setting newbies up with mechs and building their coils for them...
Andria
I actually appreciate all of these "mech vs. regulated" threads that keep popping up. They are all a very strong sign that mechs are in fact still quite viable and desirable to a portion of the vaping community. It's also good to see the consistent addition of "safety first" that accompanies the threads.
Good stuff
Good stuff
I am running:
Istick 30Watt with a Kanger Sub Nano
IVP 70 Watt with a Delta II and sometimes Ill drip on that with a mutation X v2
I have read most of baditude blogs they are so helpful. I have read a few of them several times especially the batteries and ohms law ones.
Thanks for all your help Bassnorma very much appreciate it.
My pleasure Zazoie! Let us know when you pick up a mech and if you want or need any tips or guidance beyond the above. =)
Bassnorma since you asked 
1) I know this belongs in the battery section but I don't see my batteries on Batitude's list should I be concerned? I run them in my 70Watt IVP. I got them from a local B&M who said they carry nothing but good batteries nothing with "fire" in the name etc etc I believe they're Samsung.
2) Given this "3) a mod with a locking firing pin and good vent holes (these are important safety measures) you don't want a mod accidentally firing in a pocket or purse and if something does go wrong with a battery the mod will be able to vent without exploding."
What mech would you recommend? There are so many gorgeous mechs out there I just love looking at them all.
Thanks again
1) I know this belongs in the battery section but I don't see my batteries on Batitude's list should I be concerned? I run them in my 70Watt IVP. I got them from a local B&M who said they carry nothing but good batteries nothing with "fire" in the name etc etc I believe they're Samsung.
2) Given this "3) a mod with a locking firing pin and good vent holes (these are important safety measures) you don't want a mod accidentally firing in a pocket or purse and if something does go wrong with a battery the mod will be able to vent without exploding."
What mech would you recommend? There are so many gorgeous mechs out there I just love looking at them all.
Thanks again
Bassnorma since you asked
1) I know this belongs in the battery section but I don't see my batteries on Batitude's list should I be concerned? I run them in my 70Watt IVP. I got them from a local B&M who said they carry nothing but good batteries nothing with "fire" in the name etc etc I believe they're Samsung.
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2) Given this "3) a mod with a locking firing pin and good vent holes (these are important safety measures) you don't want a mod accidentally firing in a pocket or purse and if something does go wrong with a battery the mod will be able to vent without exploding."
What mech would you recommend? There are so many gorgeous mechs out there I just love looking at them all.
Thanks again
Looks like Samsung 25r's, which are generally considered great batteries. Might struggle with very low builds though, as they have a little lower amp limit (think below .3, since most reports say 25r's have around 22 amp limit)
There are so many great mechs, you may want to pick a few that you love the looks of and then ask about each to find which is right. Plenty of great performers out there, but also lots that have little issues that may make you want to consider something else. Budget is also a consideration you should set!
I own both mechs and reg mods. Each has their own use for me. I run tanks on my reg mods and take them to work or when out and about. I use my mechs at home with RDAs (Hobo & Derringer). I'm not supposed to vape at my desk at work but am able to stealth vape with tanks and reg mods. No way I could do that with my mechs and RDAs.
I own several Vapor Flasks and am a member of the VF group on fb. A lot of the pix that people post are their Flask with an RDA. I gave an RDA on one of my Flasks a shot yesterday. It was a very different experience compared to an RDA on a low sub-ohm build. I much prefer the mech/RDA vape.
So no, my mechs aren't dead and never will be.
I own several Vapor Flasks and am a member of the VF group on fb. A lot of the pix that people post are their Flask with an RDA. I gave an RDA on one of my Flasks a shot yesterday. It was a very different experience compared to an RDA on a low sub-ohm build. I much prefer the mech/RDA vape.
So no, my mechs aren't dead and never will be.
The StingrayX always catches my eye but its a clone version...how about that one
The Infinite/SXK clone of the Stingray X is magnificent both in looks and performance, but I'm biased and I'm always talking it up. IMO you wouldn't go wrong with one
Still, literally dozens of other options!EDIT: Also, the Stingray X has plenty of venting and a locking ring, if that was the original question. Many of the newer crop of mechs use recessed switches without locking rings though. Possible issues with the SRX include: Crunchy button and copper threads (softer metal).
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Gosh I hope not I just ordered one the other day. Unfortunately it will be my last order from Super-T Manufacturing.
I'm sure it will get lots of use and my regulated mods will be gathering dust for a little while.
I'm sure it will get lots of use and my regulated mods will be gathering dust for a little while.
Fattlestar or Bassnorma,
Let's see if I got this right. I could get a mech put my 18650 2500mAH 3.7 battery in it, attach my Delta II .5 ohm to it and according to the ohm calculator lets say fresh off the charger I pull 4.2 v straight from battery I would be pushing 35 watts through the Delta II which is well within its range. So I would be good right? Then when I notice performance drop off charge batteries. Do I understand how that works?
Let's see if I got this right. I could get a mech put my 18650 2500mAH 3.7 battery in it, attach my Delta II .5 ohm to it and according to the ohm calculator lets say fresh off the charger I pull 4.2 v straight from battery I would be pushing 35 watts through the Delta II which is well within its range. So I would be good right? Then when I notice performance drop off charge batteries. Do I understand how that works?
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