Are Mechs Dead?

[Bassnorma]

Absolutely, that's why I said...



Incidently, because I know Ohms Law and battery safety, I am curently running a .24Ω build and have built as low as .18Ω.

Thanks...Yeah me too but I don't care to run below 0.5 on my mech. Not saying that an expert builder can't or shouldn't. Being informed enough to understand the risks is wise, imo.

Now the dna 40s are a whole other matter....with nickel build on a regulated temperature control device you really have no other choice but to build in the very low subohm range. Of course, I am not saying anything here that you don't already know, oh king of vapor flask.... that part is more for the people who don't.

The scary part is jax that there are folks that have builds made by a shop or by themselves but are sorely lacking in the understanding of ohms law. Also, we can never really be certain of what process that people are using to build subohm attys. Iow, how are they checking builds for stability?

Then there is the accidental firing possibility.

I would venture to guess that when you run that low, you are very much heads up to your battery life and lock status of your firing button.



(sent from an alien device which translates English into Klingon without my approval)

 

[jaxgator]

Coming from kanthal builds, nickel builds had me a bit confused at first because of their very low resistance. Since I only use them on my TP regulated mods (king of vapor flask ) I feel pretty safe in their use.

Believe me, I have seen and heard of the scary builds that you are talking about. I certainly don't suggest that anyone build as low as I do, especially anyone new to building. I built 1.0+ ohm builds and studied for a couple of months before venturing into sub-ohm land and when I did, I gently slid into it taking baby steps.

I still own 4 Kick 2s because I wanted to be safe. 3 of them are still in their boxes and never used. Need to sell those someday.

I only vape my mechs at my house so there's no chance of them misfiring in my pocket or anything of the sort. The mechs I use to sub-ohm with are both recessed switch (Tamerlan and SMPL) so no locking but I am definitely safe. I have to admit that I once shorted a battery in a 4nine. It was my fault as the atty that I was using had a 510 that would go flush with removal and reattachment to the mod. The 4nine is in a drawer somewhere and the RDA went in the trash.

 

[Bassnorma]

Well we got a bit off track...Lol...not like that never happens.

Are mechs dead?

I equate this to manual transmissions vs automatic in cars and conceptually for similar concepts of controlling your experience.

There will always be people who want to shift and feel the driving experience....are manual transmissions dead?

(sent from an alien device which translates English into Klingon without my approval)

 

[Bassnorma]

Bassnorma since you asked

1) I know this belongs in the battery section but I don't see my batteries on Batitude's list should I be concerned? I run them in my 70Watt IVP. I got them from a local B&M who said they carry nothing but good batteries nothing with "fire" in the name etc etc I believe they're Samsung.

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2) Given this "3) a mod with a locking firing pin and good vent holes (these are important safety measures) you don't want a mod accidentally firing in a pocket or purse and if something does go wrong with a battery the mod will be able to vent without exploding."

What mech would you recommend? There are so many gorgeous mechs out there I just love looking at them all.

Thanks again

Sorry Zazoie...just saw this. Sounds like you got answers by the time I read it though.

My mech is a Reo. I can't with any conscience comment on Mech tubes as I own none.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Ive been vaping with box Mods now for the last few months and my mechs are collecting dust,is the Mech Mod finished?

In my opinion mechs will never die. They may be feeling some pain as regulated mods get more popular and offer a better build quality, accuracy and safety than they once did. But, I think while higher wattage regulated mods are seeing a larger following other people like myself, who started in on regulated are getting mechs for certain applications and just because its a nice addition to the collection.
I normally use a DNAmod for my all day needs, but, sometimes the simplicity and artful beauty of a much is nice. Something about metal on metal and the sleek simplicity is just a nice change from time to time.

 

[Chelonian]

What i dont understand is the people who have at the most a 100 watt reg mod, state that they vape around 40-60 watts, and talk about mechs not being as powerfull....whaaaaaat?
Also - while I am a HUGE proponent of vaping what you like - I vape my Provari at .85 and looooow volts, I found that my Hana vaped the best at 9 wraps of 26 gauge around a 3/32 mandrel. That's around 1.2 - 1.4 ohms. I would them set it to 50- 60 watts.

One of these folks at a B&M was dissing a 150 watt billet box because it wouldnt fire below .5 ohms. Errrrmmm....ohms law, anyone?
If I have any bone to pick with reg boxes, its that they seem to promote ignorance.

I am not saying that all box users are ignorant, of course. It seems to be a pretty even split - either they are expert vapers that have progressed from 306 drippers and and flashlight mods with a screwdriver switch, or flat out tattooed noobs who introduce themselves to you by asking "what watts are you pushing bro?"
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[Augmented Dog]

If I have any bone to pick with reg boxes, its that they seem to promote ignorance


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Have to mostly agree. Reg boxes are too easy for relative beginners to pick up and use without having learned the "ropes" first. Some folks who go that route live in instant expert land. That's a dangerous place to be, IMO.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Just got my first mech mod yesterday so therefore they are alive.

I now like Mech mods and Reg mods, others can have their opinions as to what they like.
Don't care for people who say a product is no good based just on their opinion and if that product has no faults.

 

[anavidfan]

Im a mech person, I have 8 of them. As you can see there are some old tech atties in there too.

Here are my dinosaurs..... I love the simplicity and with my wimpy vape style of 1.2 -1.5 resistance it "suits" me. I use AW 18490's and try not to use them lower than 3.7 but dang if they dont perform so well, that I dont notice a drop and they're down to 3.2 or less sometimes. I like that they are low maintenance, easy to take apart and clean. If something wears out, I can just replace a part.

 

[Chelonian]

I see a Piccolo and a Gus
I am soooo jealous of your Piccolo.

Me waaaaant

You sell?

Pweeeeeaaaase ?

If a manly demand would get the job done I can do that too

Or perhaps the wifey doing a jiggly dance?

Dang it, GIMMIE!


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[obiz]

I'll love my mechs 4ever

they're indestructible structure if u know what you're doin

 

[Fir3b1rd]

What i dont understand is the people who have at the most a 100 watt reg mod, state that they vape around 40-60 watts, and talk about mechs not being as powerfull....whaaaaaat?
Also - while I am a HUGE proponent of vaping what you like - I vape my Provari at .85 and looooow volts, I found that my Hana vaped the best at 9 wraps of 26 gauge around a 3/32 mandrel. That's around 1.2 - 1.4 ohms. I would them set it to 50- 60 watts.

One of these folks at a B&M was dissing a 150 watt billet box because it wouldnt fire below .5 ohms. Errrrmmm....ohms law, anyone?
If I have any bone to pick with reg boxes, its that they seem to promote ignorance.

I am not saying that all box users are ignorant, of course. It seems to be a pretty even split - either they are expert vapers that have progressed from 306 drippers and and flashlight mods with a screwdriver switch, or flat out tattooed noobs who introduce themselves to you by asking "what watts are you pushing bro?"
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Hahaha I cant help but find that 'what watts you pushing bro' hilarious !!!
I was at a b&m with my lolely vsdna when a youngin walked up with that exact statement. Instead of answering him I asked what he was using.
He was a proud lad, with a mech and a tobh, running a 0.2 ohm build with a 15a battery. So, I took it upon myself to give a crash course on basic electronic principles .
Dude left with 4 new decent batteries and a meter . And I left giving the shop a red ... for not teaching noobs basic battery safety, ohm law, general definition of ohm, watts and volts or at least a meter . That's the kind of foolishness that'll put us all back to modifying flashlights. .
How the hell, can they sell a package like that to someone that cant understand the concept of ohms law is beyond me.

To boxes, I actually prefer the c frame and box mods for regulated and tube mods for mechs.

 

[Chelonian]

You are a better man than I. I keep on expecting results from my efforts.

Zazoie:

You give me hope for the future
And also, please understand that I AM a proponent of vaping what you like - to me the idea of a "right way" and "wrong way" of vaping is abhorrent, once the proper safety measures are, of course, taken.

What I like to see is a proper understanding of Ohms Law. Once you have got that, there is nothing you cant do in the world of vaping.


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[Augmented Dog]

Hahaha I cant help but find that 'what watts you pushing bro' hilarious !!!
I was at a b&m with my lolely vsdna when a youngin walked up with that exact statement. Instead of answering him I asked what he was using.
He was a proud lad, with a mech and a tobh, running a 0.2 ohm build with a 15a battery. So, I took it upon myself to give a crash course on basic electronic principles .
Dude left with 4 new decent batteries and a meter . And I left giving the shop a red ... for not teaching noobs basic battery safety, ohm law, general definition of ohm, watts and volts or at least a meter . That's the kind of foolishness that'll put us all back to modifying flashlights. .
How the hell, can they sell a package like that to someone that cant understand the concept of ohms law is beyond me.

To boxes, I actually prefer the c frame and box mods for regulated and tube mods for mechs.

I love what you did!

 

[evgeny131]

Possibly my favorite hand check.
Nemesis Copper Matte 18500 - Nef'I SS Nemesis Caps - APO RDA - 2Puff DT
Glas Phantom 18650 - Origen Genesis V2 - Origen Short DT
Full Brass Chi You 18650 - Nef'I Copper LE Caps - Orchid V2 RDA - SoV Copper Top Cap - MLV DT
Mankos Slit LE Copper 18500 - Aqua V2 Hybrid - MLV DT

 

[Go4iT]

Provaris where the thing to have when I started. Now I feel the same as you. I would love to see a provape DNA40 though. That would be sweeet

I agree, though I'd rather see a Provari with a Ti chip or a proprietary chip rather than a DNA, personally. If Provari could make their proprietary chip in the 40 - 60 watt range and use a different method for changing the settings, it would be awesome, as Provape quality is second to none. Back on topic, I still love my mechs. They're a totally different animal than a regulated VV/VW device. It's nice to have options.

 

[Go4iT]

Possibly my favorite hand check.
Nemesis Copper Matte 18500 - Nef'I SS Nemesis Caps - APO RDA - 2Puff DT
Glas Phantom 18650 - Origen Genesis V2 - Origen Short DT
Full Brass Chi You 18650 - Nef'I Copper LE Caps - Orchid V2 RDA - SoV Copper Top Cap - MLV DT
Mankos Slit LE Copper 18500 - Aqua V2 Hybrid - MLV DT

My Glas Phantom will be here on Monday, and I can't frickin' wait! Nice collection there!

 

[Kaoself]

Those are both very nice collections! But I see no mention of the black King and Kayfun 4, evgeny.

 

[joeybear]

Not at all. I bring two box vw mods and two mechs to work everyday. I prefer the mechs over messing with the vw most of the time.

 

[joeybear]

Possibly my favorite hand check.
Nemesis Copper Matte 18500 - Nef'I SS Nemesis Caps - APO RDA - 2Puff DT
Glas Phantom 18650 - Origen Genesis V2 - Origen Short DT
Full Brass Chi You 18650 - Nef'I Copper LE Caps - Orchid V2 RDA - SoV Copper Top Cap - MLV DT
Mankos Slit LE Copper 18500 - Aqua V2 Hybrid - MLV DT

You can't forget the V2 King!! That's one of my favorites!!