Are nicotine e-cigarettes a tobacco product?
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It depends on the insurance company, but from what I can tell most consider it the same.
They generally test for nicotine instead of carbon monoxide, which treats all nicotine users as smokers.
If you find an insurance company that does it differently, make sure to get it in writing.
And make sure they aren't simply testing for nicotine.
You do know that coffee beans aren't the only natural sources of caffeine?
The FDA is classing nicotine and e cigs as a tobacco product for a reason.Have you ever seen signs that say no tobacco use instead of no smoking.
a lot of people did its the FDA's way of toying with peoples ignorance.I seen right through it the day they said they were going to regulate it as tobacco product
Yes, I know that. The point is, Tobacco=plant. Coffee bean=plant. Make sense now?
Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Nearly all of the consumed nicotine in the U.S. is extracted from tobacco, because extracting it from other plants is cost prohibitive and synthetic nicotine hasn't been approved for human consumption (as far as I was able to find.) Also, as far as I could find, caffeine has one classification - a natural food ingredient and additive. It isn't being used as a drug treatment as the sole active ingredient, so it doesn't have the 2 different classifications like nicotine has. People aren't using caffeine as a treatment to end caffeine addiction.
Additionally, the health advocates have convinced the public and legislators that tobacco is ONLY used for the nicotine and all tobacco is bad. Caffeine doesn't have that stigma and the perception is that people just enjoy coffee, tea and soda for the taste and don't drink it ONLY to get caffeine. (Note that energy drinks, which ARE dedicated to delivering caffeine, are getting push back from health groups.) Caffeine is also available in large amounts in cocoa, sunflower seeds, yerba mate and guarana. So, it's a lot harder to peg caffeine as a "coffee product." On the other hand, nicotine is strongly tied to tobacco, because it has been the ONLY source of nicotine for hundreds of years.
So, what seems like a clear comparison really isn't.
That's interesting - I haven't been able to find info on where pharmaceutical companies get their nicotine. Can you give me a supporting link?There have been advances since then. Look at the inhalers from the pharma companies. They aren't using tobacco extracts to get their nicotine.
Just because every now and then i like to poke the fire
google'd the below
http://www.livestrong.com/article/293186-list-of-foods-that-contain-nicotine/
highlights of food that contain nicotine
Eggplant
Potatoes
Green Tomatoes
wonder if the FDA will start regulating those to
google'd the below
http://www.livestrong.com/article/293186-list-of-foods-that-contain-nicotine/
highlights of food that contain nicotine
Eggplant
Potatoes
Green Tomatoes
wonder if the FDA will start regulating those to
Yeah, but it takes over 20 pounds of eggplant (the vegetable with the highest reported mean nicotine content) to equal the amount of nicotine in just one cigarette.
Yeah, but it takes 20 pounds of eggplant (the vegetable with the highest reported mean nicotine content) to equal the amount of nicotine in just one cigarette.
yep i know but if nicotine is so evil they might as well banish it completely (imagining a theoretical battle of sorts)
So, it would take about 600lbs. of eggplants to extract enough nicotine to make a 30ml bottle of e-juice...
It's just more proof of ANTZ hypocrisy. They claim there is no "safe" level of nicotine, but apparently the level in those vegetable is considered "safe."
link found on ECF but very interesting
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.co.uk/
read the july 25th blog
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.co.uk/
read the july 25th blog
I can't give you a direct link, but you might try contacting Wizard Labs, who say on their front page:
They might be willing to direct you to the "providing lab."
Thanks Ania, but I was really hoping to see retired1 back up the claim that pharma gets its inhaler nicotine from non-tobacco sources. I presume he has the source?
Thanks Ania, but I was really hoping to see retired1 back up the claim that pharma gets its inhaler nicotine from non-tobacco sources. I presume he has the source?
OK. Active ingredient for the Nicotrol Inhaler is S-3-(1-methyl-2-pyrrolidinyl) pyridine. Whip over to nist.gov and we see that ingredient listed as nicotine.
Pyridine, 3-(1-methyl-2-pyrrolidinyl)-, (S)-
This would leave me to believe that they're not using a tobacco extract, but rather are synthetically making their own nicotine.
So theoretically if i was requested to stop vaping on the grounds that my juice contained tobacco derived nicotine i could counter with 'actually this is eggplant derived nicotine and is not covered under any tobacco legislation' ?
I know it's a lie but prove it.
I know it's a lie but prove it.
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