Are You really in TC Mode

[WharfRat1976]

I think one of the big problems with the threads and comments about TC is posters are giving views of wire in TC mode and in reality they are not in TC mode.

The only way to really know is to dry fire or semi dry fire your wicks. If you don't get a dry coil message you are not in TC mode. It seems nobody or very few actually do this.

I think "feeling" the temp kick down or any temperature idle is not a very accurate way to tell.

Most TC mods will fire in "joules mode" on a Ti or Ni or SS setting or with the dna 200 a TFR curve adjustment making the user think they have to be in TC mode when they actually are not. Then they post a review of the wire in TC mode. I think there is a ton of bad information and reviews here.

 

[Darkly spectr]

honestly I personally do the cotton test to see how accurate it is.

though its hard to see how accurate since different types of cotton start discoloring at different temperatures.

 

[KenD]

Hmm. DNA chips and many others don't do joules but watts, and they don't have a dry coil warning. They simply give a temperature protected warning and bring down the watts to almost nothing.

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[edyle]

I think one of the big problems with the threads and comments about TC is posters are giving views of wire in TC mode and in reality they are not in TC mode.

The only way to really know is to dry fire or semi dry fire your wicks. If you don't get a dry coil message you are not in TC mode. It seems nobody or very few actually do this.

I think "feeling" the temp kick down or any temperature idle is not a very accurate way to tell.

Most TC mods will fire in "joules mode" on a Ti or Ni or SS setting or with the DNA 200 a TFR curve adjustment making the user think they have to be in TC mode when they actually are not. Then they post a review of the wire in TC mode. I think there is a ton of bad information and reviews here.

I think a mod that has you unsure what mode you are in (and worse - a mod which switches mode on you) is a bad mod.

 

[WharfRat1976]

I think a mod that has you unsure what mode you are in (and worse - a mod which switches mode on you) is a bad mod.

This misses the point I was trying to make for discussion.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

With a DNA200 mod, if you fire and the temperature readout is active (changing temperature on the readout), you're in TC. If when you fire this (---F) is displayed, you are not. It's not really rocket science.

I've set up profiles for Ti1, Ni200, a few for the different grades of SS, and one for Kanthal (can also be used for SS in power mode) where I disabled TC. Also l generally run a tank dry after setting up a different TC profile to make sure it's working as it should.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit I almost forgot, in Escribe you can go into the device monitor and see exactly what is happening as you take a puff (how quick you reach set temp, how much power is being used to keep you there, etc). I have no issues knowing whether or not I'm in TC mode.

 

[jasonculp]

I think one of the big problems with the threads and comments about TC is posters are giving views of wire in TC mode and in reality they are not in TC mode.

The only way to really know is to dry fire or semi dry fire your wicks. If you don't get a dry coil message you are not in TC mode. It seems nobody or very few actually do this.

I think "feeling" the temp kick down or any temperature idle is not a very accurate way to tell.

Most TC mods will fire in "joules mode" on a Ti or Ni or SS setting or with the DNA 200 a TFR curve adjustment making the user think they have to be in TC mode when they actually are not. Then they post a review of the wire in TC mode. I think there is a ton of bad information and reviews here.

I think I am following you here. Is this what you mean: If I have a mod set on 20watts/joules and 600 degrees, and it never hits temperature, it is basically like using a variable wattage mod.

I also agree with the bad information out there put out by reviewers that don't take the time to learn how the mod works. It can give a good mod a bad reputation before anyone gets a chance to use it.

 

[Eric Auer]

Useless conversation really.
If you don't get how TC works, I cant help.

Mine works just fine.

Eric

 

[WharfRat1976]

Useless conversation really.
If you don't get how TC works, I cant help.

Mine works just fine.

Eric

Cannot help and missed the point. All good.

 

[WharfRat1976]

I think I am following you here. Is this what you mean: If I have a mod set on 20watts/joules and 600 degrees, and it never hits temperature, it is basically like using a variable wattage mod.

I also agree with the bad information out there put out by reviewers that don't take the time to learn how the mod works. It can give a good mod a bad reputation before anyone gets a chance to use it.

Absolutely part of the problem.

 

[Eric Auer]

Well, after thinking about it for a while, Maybe I can help.

My Cloupor Mini+ adjusts the Joules to keep the temp where I set it to be.

I had to do that Manually, as it does not have a SS430 mode. I set it in TI mode. 250f

It does NOT burn my wick and it is very consistent with the amount of "Joules" it sends to the coil.

Meaning: It never burns the wick. And if my coil is dry, It does tell me so.

I would call that TC.

Really not sure what you are chasing here OP.

TC is "Joules control" as it adjusts the Joules to give me certainty regarded to the temp of my coil.

And on this cheap ... mod it does not fail. Relax and vape on.

I never had to concider any parameters xcept temp.

Eric