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Many people have kids more out of the urge to have sex than the urge to reproduce anyway.And that said, having kids is definitely not for everybody. (Actually, it wasn't particularly my mother's thing.)
It's more of a consequence for some than a goal.
Many people have kids more out of the urge to have sex than the urge to reproduce anyway.
It's more of a consequence for some than a goal.
Guess that's why you call it "family planning".
Mamu:
I know you would be welcomed in the social group "wrecked & Bonkers". The name might seem off-putting but you will find many supportive people who are learning to survive "brain disease", which is really what it is. Chemical imbalance, neuro misfiring whatever.
There's probably someone who's been down the road your son and you are on now who can offer you some insight into what might possibly lie ahead.
Another website that I would like to recommend is No Kidding, Me Too! Removing the Stigma from Mental Illness.
It is devoted to educating the public on "brain diseases". There are links there to national organizations that might provide more information for you.
While you may feel that your son's psychiatrist (MD) is not doing enough, his function is to fine tune the medications that your son is taking, hence the questions about his meds. That's why it's so important for you and your son to be a thorough and specific as to how they are working. The psychologist is the counselor who is probably helping your son process and deal with the emotional and psychological burden of his disease.
From someone who spent 10 years trying to fine tune medications and receive the right type of counseling in order to become functional again, I urge you not to let this situation get the best of you and your son. Please know that it will take time but everyone involved needs to be proactive.
If you feel that you are getting inadequate treatment from your providers, speak up. If they are not responsive, find one who is. They are out there. They can help!
God bless you and never give up.
Gep
I know you would be welcomed in the social group "wrecked & Bonkers". The name might seem off-putting but you will find many supportive people who are learning to survive "brain disease", which is really what it is. Chemical imbalance, neuro misfiring whatever.
There's probably someone who's been down the road your son and you are on now who can offer you some insight into what might possibly lie ahead.
Another website that I would like to recommend is No Kidding, Me Too! Removing the Stigma from Mental Illness.
It is devoted to educating the public on "brain diseases". There are links there to national organizations that might provide more information for you.
While you may feel that your son's psychiatrist (MD) is not doing enough, his function is to fine tune the medications that your son is taking, hence the questions about his meds. That's why it's so important for you and your son to be a thorough and specific as to how they are working. The psychologist is the counselor who is probably helping your son process and deal with the emotional and psychological burden of his disease.
From someone who spent 10 years trying to fine tune medications and receive the right type of counseling in order to become functional again, I urge you not to let this situation get the best of you and your son. Please know that it will take time but everyone involved needs to be proactive.
If you feel that you are getting inadequate treatment from your providers, speak up. If they are not responsive, find one who is. They are out there. They can help!
God bless you and never give up.
Gep
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Perhaps you need to expound on that comment, deity. It's sounds a bit "$h1tty" if you'll pardon the expression.
Really, it's crap like this that gives you a bum rap and you'd think by now you'd have learned better.
It saddens me actually. And the fact that you "hit and run" is disheartening as well.
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Awww... thank you gep! Oh no..I'm sitting here boo hooing...
It's just the absolute overwhelming total misery and suffering I know my son goes through that touches me so deeply. Sometimes it's as if I can see into his very being and feel the torture he is going through. He tells me the spirits and demons won't leave him alone. They talk to him, they bother him when he's trying to sleep, they won't let him in his words "be normal or think normal". This is his reality. It took me awhile to realize this is real for him, as real as me sitting here at my computer.
He's on a new medication that has definitely improved not necessarily his anxiety but how he is able to function and interact with people. He's learned, and us too, who he can safely talk to and who he can't. I have a brother who said that my son was just pulling our leg and acting this way on purpose and he'd stop when he felt like it. So many stooopid people in this world!
The nervous times for my husband and I are when my son has insight into his condition and he realizes his illness. Those are the worst of worst times. Those are the saddest of saddest times. It's nervous because that's when the suicidal thoughts start and we have to watch him closely.
We have books and the internet that we've poored through to help us understand and help us help him. We are doing a lot better these last few years than the first years because we have adapted. I think one of the things that has helped us understand what my son is experiencing is the movie "A Beautiful Mind".
I didn't mean to rant against the psychologist - sorry. I know what his job is. He refuses to let me or my husband in the room when my son has an apt with him. He has that policy - patient only if they're over 18. When my son comes out after the office visit, we ask how did it go? OK. What did he tell you? Nothing. What did you tell him? Nothing. My son is in and out within 5 minutes. Sometimes we give him a note (yeah, a note) to show the doc. that has a list of the side effects that my son is experiencing or what the meds are doing.
Ah well... such is life!
What are you talking about? It's a PDF file. You can get the books in the library.
Your local grocery store sell's God's stuff. I guess God's got you there. You don't believe in him but you buy his stuff........
I'm sure that was a collective "you".
So John Lennon is also disgusting? "Money Can't Buy Me Love".
My sister's boy has multiple issues from birth, yet she calls him her greatest blessing. Sure, she freaked out when he was born but she soon realized (in the maternity ward) that he could only be born to her. That kid is now 7 and elicits more love, respect and gratitude than any "American Idol".
One of my college girlfriends always used to say, "I'll never bring a kid into this horrible world." So far she has three and when I remind her she says, yeah, yeah - but it's the only chance I have to create the world I want and I hope they'll continue. At least she has a chance. Those beautiful kids don't seem to mind at all.
Time for little Lennon, like "Imagine". Where's my guitar?
Please go away trolls and spammers, we're trying to have an intelligent discussion here.
Mamu, much love to you and your family. I can relate to your son's condition, it sounds very similar to how my own was for a few years. Luckily I'm now more stable and my mood has improved a lot - there is hope, it might not always be the way it is now. Coping strategies were the key for me, learning to survive with the level of functioning you have and recognising danger signs.
I thought I was being persecuted for being god for a while and I was expected to be martyred. The most desperate point in my life was when I cut my throat trying to cut a major blood vessel. That was complete desperation and I'll never forget it.
My heart goes out to anyone who is suffering for any reason. People who arrogantly tell us that suffering is worth it and for a purpose have a disorder and can't empathise.
Mamu, much love to you and your family. I can relate to your son's condition, it sounds very similar to how my own was for a few years. Luckily I'm now more stable and my mood has improved a lot - there is hope, it might not always be the way it is now. Coping strategies were the key for me, learning to survive with the level of functioning you have and recognising danger signs.
I thought I was being persecuted for being god for a while and I was expected to be martyred. The most desperate point in my life was when I cut my throat trying to cut a major blood vessel. That was complete desperation and I'll never forget it.
My heart goes out to anyone who is suffering for any reason. People who arrogantly tell us that suffering is worth it and for a purpose have a disorder and can't empathise.
Okay. It's Sunday morning/afternoon (depending upon where you are).
Why aren't ALL of you in church???
Why aren't ALL of you in church???
Here's one of my star "trolls and spammers".....
Man's Search for Meaning: An Introduction to Logotherapy
by Viktor Emil Frankl - 2000 - Psychology - 196 pages
Based on his own experience and the stories of his many patients, Frankl argues that we cannot avoid suffering but we can choose how to cope with it, find meaning in it, and move forward with renewed purpose. Frankl's theoryknown as logotherapy, from the Greek word logos ("meaning")holds that our primary drive in life is not pleasure, as Freud maintained, but the discovery and pursuit of what we personally find meaningful.
"One of the great books of our time."
¯Harold S. Kushner, author of When Bad Things Happen to Good People
"One of the outstanding contributions to psychological thought in the last fifty years."
¯Carl R. Rogers (1959)
"One of the ten most influential books in America."
Library of Congress/Book-of-the-Month Club Survey of Lifetime Readers
Viktor Emil Frankl
Born: March 26, 1905, Vienna
Died: September 2, 1997, Vienna
Academic titles
M.D. (1930), Ph.D. (1949), Dr.h.c.mult.
Family
First marriage (1941) with Tilly, b. Grosser (died in Bergen-Belsen 1945);
second marriage (1947) with Eleonore, b. Schwindt; daughter Gabriele; 2 grandchildren, Katharina Rebekka and Alexander David; 2 great-grandchildren, Anna Viktoria and Paul David
Viktor Emil Frankl, M.D., Ph.D. was Professor of Neurology and Psychiatry at the University of Vienna Medical School.
1940-42 Frankl was director of the Neurological Department of the Rothschild Hospital
During World War II he spent 3 years in various concentration camps, including Theresienstadt, Auschwitz, and Dachau.
1946-70 he was director of the Vienna Neurological Policlinic.
He was Visiting Professor at Harvard and at universities in Pittsburgh, San Diego and Dallas. The U.S. International University in California installed a special chair for logotherapy - this is the psychotherapeutic school founded by Frankl, often called the "Third Viennese School" (after Freud's psychoanalysis and Adler's individual psychology.) He received 29 honorary doctorates from universities in all parts of the world.
The American Psychiatric Association bestowed upon him the Oskar Pfister Award.
Frankl authored 32 books which to date (2009) have been published in 34 languages. His last two books are "Man's Search for Ultimate Meaning" and "Viktor Frankl - Recollections" and , both published in 1997. Up to 1997 the book "Man's Search for Meaning" had sold over nine million copies in the USA alone. According to a survey conducted by the Library of Congress and the Book-of-the-Month Club it belongs to "the ten most influential books in America." (New York Times, November 20, 1991).
Frankl held lectures at 209 universities on all 5 continents.
The American Medical Society, the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association have officially recognized Dr. Frankl's Logotherapy as one of the scientifically based schools of psychotherapy.
According to the American Journal of Psychiatry, his work is "perhaps the most significant thinking since Freud and Adler."
Viktor Frankl was appointed Honorary Member of the Austrian Academy of Sciences.
Frankl held the Solo Flight Certificate and the Mountain Guide badge of the Alpine Club "Donauland". Three difficult climbing trails (on the Rax and Peilstein mountains) were named after him.
In 1995 Frankl received the Honorary Citizenship of his native city Vienna.
PROFESSORSHIPS
- Distinguished Professor of Logotherapy, U.S. International University, San Diego, California
- University of Pittsburgh
- University of Dallas, Texas
- Harvard University, Cambridge
- Loyola University, Chicago (1970)
- Edgecliffe College, Cincinnati (1970)
- Rockford College, Illinois (1972)
- Mount Mary College, Wisconsin (1984)
- Universidade do Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil (1984)
- Universidad Andres Bello, Caracas (1984)
- University of South Africa (1984)
- Universidad del Salvador, Buenos Aires (1985)
- Universidad Catolica Argentina, Buenos Aires (1985)
- Universidad de Buenos Aires (1985)
- Universidad Francisco Marroquin, Guatemala (1985)
- University of Vienna (1986)
- Universidad Nacional de Cuyo, Argentina (1986)
- Universidad Nacional de Entre Rios, Argentina (1986)
- Universidad Nacional de San Luis, Argentina (1986)
- Universidad del Aconcagua, Argentina (1986)
- Universidade de Brasilia (1988)
- University of Haifa, Israel (1988)
- International Academy for Philosophy in Liechtenstein (1989)
- University of Kopenhagen (1989)
- University of Pretoria, South Africa (1990)
- Universidad Gabriela Mistral, Santiago de Chile (1991)
- University of Santa Clara, Kalifornien (1991)
- University of Ljubljana, Slovenia (1992)
- University of Prague (1994)
- University of Lublin (Polen) (1994)
- University of Salzburg (1994)
- Semmelweis-University Budapest (1996)
- Ohio State University, Columbus (1997)
- Austrian Academy of Sciences
- Societies for Neurology and Psychiatry in Austria, Peru and Guatemala
- John F. Kennedy Star
- Oscar Pfister Award of the American Psychiatric Association
- Theodor Billroth Medal
- Albert Schweitzer Medal
- Cardinal Innitzer Prize
- City of Vienna Prize for Science
- Honorary Ring of the City of Vienna
- Honorary Citizen of the Capital of Texas
- Great Cross of Merit with Star (Germany)
- Lifetime Achievement Award of the Foundation for Hospice and Homecare
- Nomination for the Peace Nobel Prize by the Pontifical University of Porto Alegre (Brazil), a Texan university and the "Evolution of Psychotherapy Foundation" (Phoenix, Arizona).
- Viktor Frankl Catedra at the University of Caracas (Venezuela)
- Frankl received the highest honor the Republic of Austria can confer on a scientist; it is the membership (since 1981) in the "Curia of the Great Badge of Honour", an Order restricted to 18 Austrians and 18 citizens of other countries.
- Great Cross of Merit with Star of the Republic of Austria (1995)
- Great Badge of Honour of the Austrian Medical Society (1995)
- Maryland Psychological Association Outstanding Lifetime Contribution To Psychology Award
- Honorary Citizenship of Vienna (1995)
- Medicus Magnus Medal and International Golden Star "Merit for Humanism" (Polish Academy of Medicine, 1997)
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Miscellany
- At the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley a "Frankl Library and Memorabilia" was installed
- At the University of Caracas a "Viktor Frankl Chair for Medical Anthropology" was founded
- A "Viktor Frankl Chair for Philosophy and Psychology" was founded in 1994 at the International Academy for Philosophy in the Principality of Liechtenstein
- Near Hamburg a social-psychiatric institution called "Viktor Frankl House" was founded
- On Viktor Frankl's place of birth, Czerningasse 6, Vienna, a memorial plaque was unveiled by the Austrian Minister of Science
- On the Vienna University Campus (Altes Allgemeines Krankenhaus) a "Viktor Frankl Path" was opened in 2001
- In Frankfurt a School for the Handicapped was named "Viktor-Frankl-School" (2001)
- A "Viktor Frankl House" was been founded in the vicinity of Hamburg (Germany); it is an open mental health institution whose inmates recruit from former patients of psychiatric institutions.
- On the front of Viktor Frankl's home, Mariannengasse 1, a memorial plaque was unveiled in 2002
It was not a collective 'you'. It was directed at someone who would use an opportunity to promote new age crap merchandise while someone is sharing very real and very personal information.
It is no different that those religious vultures that see someone's pain, not as a chance to empathize or console, but as a opportunity to use the emotional vulnerability to their own ends.
The rest of your post made about as much sense at esmokee used to make.
That is disgusting Nuck, you're right.
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No Treece, I'll be more careful, I don't want to annoy anybody over something that isn't intended. I have become used to that word and it's lost any emotive value for me but I know that it's not necessarily a friendly one to use.
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