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prof beard

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I remember a time when people stood up for what they believed; whether right or wrong it somehow seemed more honorable than all the wishywashy dribble. The Japanese (I think) had a thing called bushido. Do we have anything resembling that today?

Although I'm a hard-line atheist (and an left-wing libertarian) - I'm with you on this point - nowadays we have more bul****o than bushido
 

Kate

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People tend to be more politicised now too with mass communication. We're getting exposed to and maybe picking up a lot more of the new 'management' styles:


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Sexi

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I'm Still trying to deal with Santa not being real...:cry:

Kate, Say it isn't so...:confused:

Oh Grooovn, santy claws iz real, I was confused when I wrote that, my alien friends keep giving me psychedelic drugs. :hubba:[/quote]

Thank goodness if Santy Claws wasn't real it would ruin my day completely!
 

prof beard

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People tend to be more politicised now too with mass communication. We're getting exposed to and maybe picking up a lot more of the new 'management' styles:


song-chart-memes-politicians-answer.jpg

When I can find a window of opportunity to run that one up the flagpole and see who salutes we may be in position to synergise our mutual interests and leverage it as a unique selling point....
 

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I'm reminded of something Rev. Lovejoy once told Ned Flanders when Ned was being more of a pain in the ... than usual. In that sing-song televangelist tone of his ---

"Ned, Have you given much thought to any of the other major religions? They're all pretty much the same".

Richie
 

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Nope, afraid not VaporPete, if you believe in the God of Abraham, because the bible is inclusive of all people - Jew and Gentile. The Old Testament reveals the character of God the Father, The New Testament (up to Acts) the Son (Jesus) and the rest (under the New Covenant) reveals the Holy Spirit. All point to Jesus as the Paschal Lamb, atoning for sin of all that believe and receive the Holy Spirit. That is why there is so much evangelizing (the Great Commission). Far more learned men can explain this much better than I but you can see why the great concern is there for others. I think this is one reason Christianity, compared to other "religions" is so active on the mission field. I saw in some posts on the forum a comparison of all the bad things religions had done. Sure there are plenty. But compare the good that they have done and see where each falls in regard to providing food, medicine and education to people around the world. I think Martin Luther said faith without works is dead. If someone asks to see my faith, how can I show them?
 

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I hope not from me. I never tried to be disrepectful and if I have please accept my apology.

Nope- not you. And what I have seen wasnt done with malice. I just always find it ironic- I am so willing to let peolple take their own paths and I take mine, but many are willing to try to force me on theirs. And when i say no thanks, I get sent to hell. lol
 

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Nope, afraid not VaporPete, if you believe in the God of Abraham, because the bible is inclusive of all people - Jew and Gentile. The Old Testament reveals the character of God the Father, The New Testament (up to Acts) the Son (Jesus) and the rest (under the New Covenant) reveals the Holy Spirit. All point to Jesus as the Paschal Lamb, atoning for sin of all that believe and receive the Holy Spirit. That is why there is so much evangelizing (the Great Commission).

So you answered "afraid not..." but infact, you have just affirmed my question. In your attempt to refute my statement, you used biblical doctrin to do so. So, by default, one would have to believe the bible in order to believe what you just said. Which was my original question, "wouldnt that only apply if you believed in the bible?" You said "no", when infact, by your own reply, the answere is indeed "yes".



Far more learned men can explain this much better than I but you can see why the great concern is there for others. I think this is one reason Christianity, compared to other "religions" is so active on the mission field. I saw in some posts on the forum a comparison of all the bad things religions had done. Sure there are plenty. But compare the good that they have done and see where each falls in regard to providing food, medicine and education to people around the world. I think Martin Luther said faith without works is dead. If someone asks to see my faith, how can I show them?

I can show you many examples of groups, people, and organizations, that do the same things you are talking about. And not one will have anything to do with being christian. So that argument is a moot point. But if you would really like to discuss the good vs. bad thing... well all I can say is the Twin Towers.... whether you like it or not, that was because of religious beliefs. And that I think trumps providing food.

My best,
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GrimmGreen

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I often see people with more respect of someones rights to have their own beliefs than repect of rights not to. I wont disrepect your beliefs, but already on this thread have seen disrepct for those without them.

Don't you get it Tallgirl... if you don't believe in the god of the bible , then you are instantly part of the worlds most distrusted minority :)

for some reason it's ok to bash on atheists , i can't even recall how many times i have been told i'm going to hell.

but if you speak up against faith , you are instantly labeled as a bigot
 

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Can anybody tell me how to quick reply without being timed out?

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I have found that prayer to every known God works well. <g>


Btw, not getting caught up in the fine print works well too. The Gods and I have an understanding, Wander. I'm simply not bright enough to understand the intricacies of detail, nor to commit to memory, the scriptures or the other forms of historical religion. I don't hold my dimness against them for making me a near idiot and they don't expect much from me as a student.

I'm covered, dude. If I may coin a term of my own. Ignorance is blessed.
 

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Don't you get it Tallgirl... if you don't believe in the god of the bible , then you are instantly part of the worlds most distrusted minority :)

for some reason it's ok to bash on atheists , i can't even recall how many times i have been told i'm going to hell.

but if you speak up against faith , you are instantly labeled as a bigot

I dont really agree Grimm,
I havent seen anyone bashing me, an Atheist, at all. And I have not been told Im going to hell by the people Im debating with here.
And honestly, being labled a bigot by a chritian is immediatly arguable since they are to "Not judge, lest they be judged themselves". Call me a bigot based on my denial of faith, and I shall tear you apart based on you acceptance of it. In a friendly way of course!;)
My best,
-VP
 

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VaporPete you have an inside argument and an outside argument. I placed my response in context to the inside argument to answer the question you posed and took care to do so as to demonstrate the Christian perspective. The outside argument was not really addressed by me. If you don't believe in God then of course this would be a moot point.
 
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