Are Zens worth all that money...

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JimzDogz

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I just received a new Richman Atty today. It's the same as the AGA T2 but a little more stylish and for $35.00 it can't be beat. The internal parts for the AGA t2 are interchangeable with the RichMan except the cap O rings. That makes parts more easily found. What's cool is it's a US made clone of a Chinese clone. RichMan Rebuildable Atomizer

So all that said, what rba - under $75 USD, will give me mad clouds, great flavor, and is clean and easy to work on? I'm skilled with my hands, so I don't see working with wicks and wire being difficult for me. I'm expecting a #19B mod either today or tomorrow, and I have AW 18650 batteries and a quality charge I typically use for my tactical flashlights. So I'm pretty well set on that front.

Suggestions?
 
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Wow what an entertaining thread. All I want to add is that the AGA-T2+ with two wicks and coils and a tanks full of Copper Creek HB is one of my all time favorite vapes.

I'm trying to track down a Zen (ZAG), and I hate the price, but I'm fixated on having a GG native connection. So that's got me pulling my wallet out.
 

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Wow what an entertaining thread. All I want to add is that the AGA-T2+ with two wicks and coils and a tanks full of Copper Creek HB is one of my all time favorite vapes.

I'm trying to track down a Zen (ZAG), and I hate the price, but I'm fixated on having a GG native connection. So that's got me pulling my wallet out.

Why not a synthesis then?
 

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Take a look at the richman rba it has the same quality and look at 1/4 the price
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this is a verry god alternitive to the zen it is just as well built with the same quality materials as the zen but cost 1/4 as much
 

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One fact missing is take a look at k-fun products, notice the intergrated machined buss connectors on the bottom coil types, now notice how that design eliminates the long "Legs" that are infamous for causing trouble. This setup cuts the possability of hotlegs out of the picture, It also makes re winding a coil systematic and simple cutting down on errors and tinker time making the setup almost idiot proof [I'm the idiot that can prove it] So all systems created equall? NO, all systems work the same IF the wick and coil is good=YES, the difference in design just makes it easier to achieve a GOOD coil in under a minute instead of fid doodleing around with cheap designed systems. I am through with center posative post designs and LONG wicks and LEGS.
The bottom feeder hooked up to a drip tank with only a short wick DRIPPER up top or a VV/VW electronic MOD with a K-Fun bottom element / Tank is my next move.
LONG wicks and LONG legs are a show stopper if you want to make a good coil in less than 5 minutes instead of 4 hours of wooops!!! redo Awww$#@$t Wick broke off, and so on.

I'm going to have a hard time hearing "Super X Drifter" telling me "I told you so" in these threads. But he's right. REO_Naughts are NOT nuts!!!!!!

YES good design and engeneering IS worth the money, just make sure the design is there and NOT just the high price. Look for NO centerpost connections and LONG wick systems, walk away from them.
 
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Hey guys. I have a Zen 2 the Cenis and the RSST. Like how they function but the flavor to me is off. Everyone says you get better flavors out of a SS mesh and coil than a carto but not finding that to be so. Maybe it is user error but I can build everything fine no hot spots good ohms just like a muted flavor. I don't know if it is the juice I am using or just my setups but frustrated.rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
any suggestions on what I may or may not being doing wrong
 
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