ASH seekd to Regulate E-cigs

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Skad

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Okay I might get yelled at for this but I think you cant scorn a individual group for using there rights to want a ban. I think instead of attacking these groups why dont we form some kind aliance if you will to get them to understand ow this works and how it could save millions.

The problem with this is you can't reason with individuals like this. They aren't interested in anything other then what they believe, and nothing you say or show them will change their minds.

To these people, this is like a religion, and you can no more reason with them then you can the guy who knocks on your door at 7AM on a Saturday morning to tell you about Jesus.

They were given an inch years ago, and now they're trying to take a light-year.
 

Kate51

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I have scanned through the legal rational submitted by ASH, and the only conclusion I can make is that e-cigs should be banned, and All tobacco cigarette companies be shut down and closed forever for our own good, halleluhia! BAN EVERTHING TOXIC and NOT IN OUR BEST HEALTH INTEREST IMMEDIATELY.
That means no more ALCOHOL, no more SNUS, no more TAMPAX (which causes SEPTICEMIA) Amen
 

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I have scanned through the legal rational submitted by ASH, and the only conclusion I can make is that e-cigs should be banned, and All tobacco cigarette companies be shut down and closed forever for our own good, halleluhia! BAN EVERTHING TOXIC and NOT IN OUR BEST HEALTH INTEREST IMMEDIATELY.
That means no more ALCOHOL, no more SNUS, no more TAMPAX (which causes SEPTICEMIA) Amen

I can agree with no more Tampax. Keeps me from having to go to the store and buy it for my wife. :evil:

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I have scanned through the legal rational submitted by ASH, and the only conclusion I can make is that e-cigs should be banned, and All tobacco cigarette companies be shut down and closed forever for our own good, halleluhia! BAN EVERTHING TOXIC and NOT IN OUR BEST HEALTH INTEREST IMMEDIATELY.
That means no more ALCOHOL, no more SNUS, no more TAMPAX (which causes SEPTICEMIA) Amen
And dont forget, no more gasoline, nor diesel fuel. When they took the lead out of gasoline in the United States, they replaced it with benzene, which causes leukemia. And, diesel has all that pollution it puts out when it's burned. So, we need to ban both of 'em.
 

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All that's needed to understand the mindset of this group is the following quote, commenting on whether or not e-cigs are less harmful than smoking tobacco and whether or not they are an effective way to give up smoking:

"Moreover, it must be remembered that, even if these claims were proven to be true, their truth or falsity is irrelevant."

It's not possible to reason with people who have this mindset. We're dealing with true believers who will disregard facts and use every spurious legal argument to outlaw something they personally disapprove of. Treat them with the contempt they deserve.
 

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All that's needed to understand the mindset of this group is the following quote, commenting on whether or not e-cigs are less harmful than smoking tobacco and whether or not they are an effective way to give up smoking:

"Moreover, it must be remembered that, even if these claims were proven to be true, their truth or falsity is irrelevant."

It's not possible to reason with people who have this mindset. We're dealing with true believers who will disregard facts and use every spurious legal argument to outlaw something they personally disapprove of. Treat them with the contempt they deserve.
Agreed. That's the same sort of argument used by all sorts of bigots. To people like that, if you dont look like them, dress like them, eat the same foods as them, pray to the same diety, worship at the same church, have the same type of sex and in the same frequency and positions, and mindlessly agree with everything they say, then you're worthless in their eyes.
 

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iiimathman24iii

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I love how that ASH petition says that the vapor in ecigs is full of chemicals and deadly nicotine and then a few sentences later says they don't know whats in the vapor...idiots.

kinda summed up this whole thread... :lol:

i did not read the entire petition....however i did read the entire thread:D the parts i did read make me think this "group" is little more than angry people who have run out of things to hate... so they hate the guy smoking in HIS car next to them at the stoplight, etc...

these people will never get over the fact that our vapor LOOKS like smoke... they are the same idiots who see fog and call it smoke... then start up their SUV's, and give no thought to the toxic chemicals spewing out of it.... "well I cant see anything must not be nuthin' cumin' out that cud hort nobudy!"
 

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It's not possible to reason with people who have this mindset. We're dealing with true believers who will disregard facts and use every spurious legal argument to outlaw something they personally disapprove of. Treat them with the contempt they deserve.

I just wish polyticians would do just that.
 
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