Asking Store Owner / Customers Permission to Vape

[Chas F.]

I went to a local brew pub yesterday afternoon. While the bartender was pouring my beer I asked about c-cigs. She said they don't allow it. I said 'not even the patio?' and she said no, they don't want any confusion then said I could go outside 'beyond the fence' and use it there. I didn't use it the entire time I was there and didn't miss it, but still...

Oh well, I'm sure they won't miss my business, but it's sad. If I ever do go back, I won't be walking out the back door and 50 ft away to vape. I'll take the front door and vape outside. E-cigs have not yet caught on in Colorado, much less Monument but I'm hoping it does soon.

 

[Intervap]

If I'm at a coffee shop (just for example) I'll ask one of the employees if they have a policy on e-cigarettes. If they don't know, I'll ask for a manager.
If all is good and I have the green light to vape, I ask the other customers around me if they mind. Nine times out of ten they don't care, and are usually intrigued. If they do mind, I step outside whenever I want a vape.

 

[Johnny101]

The more we can be positive about getting vaping/ecigs out in the world the better it will be for us what will kill our attempts are the obnoxious people that even after there told not to use there pv in an establishment and continue to do so will put us in a bad light

 

[Mrs C]

Up until the days of smoking sections in restaurants I didn't lite up at the table, breakfast after hitting the bar excepted. I never liked having others blowing smoke at me when I ate so I refrained until the plates were cleared and it was coffee time. When smoking ares were established I did after a meal, but not until those I was with had finished eating.

I always did ask if those close to me minded inside or outdoors. So far I haven't been in the position of needing to ask, but I won't hesitate when the time comes and I'm in a place where I would have not been uncomfortable smoking. I don't think I'll use the term "e cig" as the c word seems to trigger spastic reactions from people who don't know what they are. Calling it a personal vaporizer leaves the door open to educating the curious uninformed. If they say "no" a simple smile with an ok no problem and I'll step outside if I need to.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, but the nail that sticks out get hammered down.

 

[dice57]

Saw someone take a vape while walking through Wal-Mart the other day, and thought, dang, left my Provari in the car. lol. Don't really see a problem with it. There is nothing offensive or risk to others with taking a quick vape imo. You don't tell someone who needs an inhalant while in a public place to not vape, do you?

If asked adamantly, not to vape in store, would ask why? maybe explain what I was doing, or just say I that it was a just a personal vaporizer that I needed for my lungs. And ask if it was against store policy to use a vaporizer...

I think that we should not be shy to vape in public. That exposure is best and not hide or be ashamed that we vape. If our actions look like we are sneaking a smoke, that implies negatives about vape. If shown pride, and we are positive about what we do, this will have a positive impact on the public.

Was asked by a co-worker, if I was trying to stop smoking, said I don't smoke, I Vape.!!! I refuse to be classified as a smoker or allow any negative beliefs about vape go unchallenged . By vaping I am do something positive and healthy for myself and my environment and my actions should reflect that, shame and guilt like actions just increase the negative vape hype.

Vape on!

Vape the World!!!

 

[Texaslimo]

ROFL! 'bout choked on my coffe when I read that! @

Completely agree. By the way, your avi makes me think... 'i can haz facechew?'. Just sayin'

 

[Mohamed]

Be careful with vaping in elevators, some have smoke detectors that can, in some cases, pick up vapor and react. Bad mojo.

I agree that I try to avoid the issue by going outside. I stick to the "if I couldn't smoke..." frame of mind. Pushing limits is a great way to get more people against vaping. Fear is a powerful motivator.

It was my understanding that smoke detectors don't react to vaper. I've read several posts about going to lavatory on a plane and the smoke detectors don't detect "vapor" as "smoke".

I appreciate all the I don't vape in public crowd...as stated this is covered in many many threads. My intention of this thread was how do you go about asking permission in a respectable way. Other alternative is just don't ask and vape or go outside and vape. My main question is how do other vapers ask permission and explain any follow up questions?

If store owner says no...so be it...I don't mind...it's his establishment. I'm just wondering how is the nicest way possible to ask someone if I can vape in their establishment.

 

[patkin]

I've only done it once. I was waiting for a loved one having a lengthy medical procedure and needed to be close by in case of any problems with it so I couldn't leave. There was only one other person waiting also. We had been conversing so some temporal relationship had already been established when I took out my cigalike and asked if she had ever seen an ecig/PV and if she would have a problem if I used it on the other side of the room. I explained how it worked and what was put in the air. She was a non-smoker and said she wouldn't. When I was finished vaping, I moved back near her and she said she was going to tell her doctor son in Australia about it.

 

[madqatter]

When vaping I am exposing others around me to the "smell" of my juice. I try to keep in mind of how I fell when I smell a person that has on too much cologne or perfume or a fragrance I don't like the smell of.

Yes. Some aromas and odors make people nauseous, either generally or contextually, and some people are allergic to some fragrances. I have a friend-- fortunately in another state-- who would break out in hives if I vaped near her. If I was unavoidably close to someone to whom vaping was obnoxious, making them sick, I would gladly refrain.

I was a 2 pad smoker for nearly 40 years. Even so I managed to get through a meal in a restaurant or shopping without collapsing because I couldn't smoke there. I'm addicted to nicotine but was never that addicted.

Yes!

So I don't exactly agree with the "in your face vape" mentality exhibited by many.

Nor I. I think we should respect other people's property and rights.

The more we can be positive about getting vaping/ecigs out in the world the better it will be for us what will kill our attempts are the obnoxious people that even after there told not to use there pv in an establishment and continue to do so will put us in a bad light

You don't tell someone who needs an inhalant while in a public place to not vape, do you?

My sister does not enjoy using an asthma inhaler, she uses it because she has no choice. I enjoy vaping, but I do not need to vape. People using inhalers, furthermore, do not expel clouds of aromatic vapor. Vapers often do. My sister's inhaler, which no one can smell, will not spoil someone's dinner, but a cloud of banana menthol vapor really might-- it certainly would spoil mine, and I'm a vaper myself. There are people to whom our vapor can be nauseous, and I do think we should respect them.

I think that we should not be shy to vape in public.

I'm not shy or ashamed. I do vape in public (until recently, I also smoked in public). Respect for other people and their property does not require that we be shy or hidden.

 

[DasBluCig]

I went to a local brew pub yesterday afternoon. While the bartender was pouring my beer I asked about c-cigs. She said they don't allow it. I said 'not even the patio?' and she said no, they don't want any confusion then said I could go outside 'beyond the fence' and use it there. I didn't use it the entire time I was there and didn't miss it, but still...

Oh well, I'm sure they won't miss my business, but it's sad. If I ever do go back, I won't be walking out the back door and 50 ft away to vape. I'll take the front door and vape outside. E-cigs have not yet caught on in Colorado, much less Monument but I'm hoping it does soon.

They're probably more occupied with "other stuff" that makes clouds.....
And I ain't talkin' 'bout the WEATHER!!

 

[Jcdew67]

I still vape everywhere but I just stealth vape. Of course I hold my vape in long enough to where no vapor comes out,I get my Nicotine fix. Sometimes I do ask but I never say Electronic Cigarette,it instantly gets most non smokers offensive,I say Personal Vaporizer.

If noone sees anything that looks like smoke nothing is ever said.

 

[irwink]

smoked[/I] in public). Respect for other people and their property does not require that we be shy or hidden.

Ahhh, new people.

It's not a matter of being shy or wanting to hide. It's a matter of discretion in the face of the perception of vaping by the non smoking, non vaping public that are being inundated with anti ecig propaganda. Subtlety seems to be a lost art these days.

Want to make a statement about supposed rights? Walk down the street with an AR-15 slung over your shoulder. It's your right but probably won't garner much positive pr for your cause.

 

[madqatter]

It's not a matter of being shy or wanting to hide.

I just agreed with you.

 

[Mohamed]

I was a 2 pad smoker for nearly 40 years. Even so I managed to get through a meal in a restaurant or shopping without collapsing because I couldn't smoke there. I'm addicted to nicotine but was never that addicted.

Fortunately I can vape in my workplace. Even so I keep a low profile. Too many people are still ignorant about vaping. The negative press doesn't exactly help with that either. I can easily see myself whipping out a dildo like mod merrily blowing clouds in my wake being just the kind of distraction that HR just comes in and says "no more vaping for anyone."

So I don't exactly agree with the "in your face vape" mentality exhibited by many.

I vape at my workplace...but have never asked permission. The clouds are small as I keep it in a bit. No one has ever complained of smell either. I don't think we have official policy but I'd rather it not come to the fore front. I think only one person knows that I actually vape at work. I figure I'm more productive as I'm not taking a 5-10 min break every hour to get my nic.

I guess being at cubicle and being in auto-body shop somehow are different with respect to asking permission.

 

[Mohamed]

If I'm at a coffee shop (just for example) I'll ask one of the employees if they have a policy on e-cigarettes. If they don't know, I'll ask for a manager.
If all is good and I have the green light to vape, I ask the other customers around me if they mind. Nine times out of ten they don't care, and are usually intrigued. If they do mind, I step outside whenever I want a vape.

Yeah 90% of it is just getting the courage to ask. I've never asked so was curious how you all go about it. Most of the time I can wait it was just that I was stuck in oil change place for about an hour...so was really close to asking

 

[madqatter]

I figure I'm more productive as I'm not taking a 5-10 min break every hour to get my nic.

I guess being at cubicle and being in auto-body shop somehow are different with respect to asking permission.

I think it depends on the work. When I was a smoker, I always took my work with me when smoking outside. The change of environment often helped.

 

[Mohamed]

Ahhh, new people.

It's not a matter of being shy or wanting to hide. It's a matter of discretion in the face of the perception of vaping by the non smoking, non vaping public that are being inundated with anti ecig propaganda. Subtlety seems to be a lost art these days.

Want to make a statement about supposed rights? Walk down the street with an AR-15 slung over your shoulder. It's your right but probably won't garner much positive pr for your cause.

LOL reminds me of incident here that happened about a year ago. A 30 year old vet was "training" jogging down highway in full gear. He just so happened to pass within 2 blocks of a school...apparently there is law against that. So apparently you can "train" as long as you are not close enough to a school. It's legal until they tell you it's not.

Hate to use that as an analogy but being stealthy probably is a good thing.

 

[MrStik]

Umm.. Just ask. If they say no, I am sure they appreciate the fact that you came up to ask versus having them come over and asking you to stop.

 

[jpargana]

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I stick to the "if I couldn't smoke..." frame of mind. Pushing limits is a great way to get more people against vaping. Fear is a powerful motivator.

I do not follow that rule always. Bacause, as you know, some of the cigarette bans are already insane, even for cigarettes. Not ot mention vaping... besides, we should not give people the wrong idea, that 'vaping is just another way of smoking'... that's only helping the ANTZ,'s really...

IMHO, the only way to "get more people against vaping" is being obnoxious about the e-cig. On the other hand, if we hide in corners, people in general will never know (firsthand, not just by 'hear-say') the real difference between vaping and smoking. By not knowing better, people will keep fearing the e-cig, with no real reason. And you're quite right: fear is a powerful motivator...

So, I do believe we need a balance here: we should not push limits to the point of having people turned against us, but we should also seek reasonable opportunities to let people experience vaping first-hand, and to let them know about the truth behind it... always remember the reason why the 'big crowd' is being deceived by ideology/false science sprouted by the media and small groups of ANTZ's: Mainly , it's not because people are stupid... it's only because those people do not know better.

The battle now is to make the e-cig 'socially' accepted, and detach it from the already de-normalized/de-glamourized tobacco cigarettes.

As I have stated on another post: We need the support of a large, properly informed crowd to win this battle...!

 

[CommaHolly]

IMHO, there's a difference between vaping respectfully in public places,,,,,,,

and vaping in places where it would be difficult for others to move away from my Juicy Peach vape.

Vaping in a restaurant when someone is having a meal at the next table just doesn't do it for me,,,,,,,

vaping in a public park where someone might walk by me is different,,,,,,,

I do think it would be nice to vape in bars, and I'd DEFINITELY give my business to a bar that allowed vaping as opposed to one that did not,,,,,,

but to answer the OP's question,,,I usually whip out my PV and say something like "Do you guys allow us to use these fake, no smoke vapor cigarettes here??"

usually they either know what they are,,,,,,or the "fake, no smoke, vapor" thing gets them to ask questions,,,,,,,,