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Atchafalaya

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You in trouble now! Prolly somewhere, but not here I think.
Prolly? Really? Well now. You know you prolly know dis Cajun know wat u be sayin. an.... u be sayin who dat. we happy chat (prounouced, Shaa). we all happy. omg I'm goig to sleep now. Sorry if I offended anyone. :)
 

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Wow. Maybe the only place to have this discussion is the internet. I found out that I have Asperger's late in life When my grandson was diagnosed I immediately got a bunch of books on the subject (clue 1) and started reading. I wasn't very far into the research when I said "Hey, this is my biography." Doing more research and some online testing, I figure that I'm probably a little further down on the ASD scale, but I've never bothered with a formal diagnosis since I'm 64 now and a diagnosis isn't really going to change anything.

As an online quiz I strongly recommend Aspergers Adult AQ Test Quiz Online: Autism Spectrum Quotient since it is relatively detailed, no strings and gives an immediate result. It seems to be fairly accurate.

I've already had most of the problems in life that Asperger's/Autism (I think that Asperger's has now been officially folded into Autism Spectrum Disorders scale) and I've adapted to some of them (staring at a point just over the nose makes people think that you're looking them "in the eye" for example) and been functionally disabled by others, but I'm in a fairly comfortable spot now.

I live alone and most of my contact with the outside world is now by computer - I actually like Facebook, probably because I have a small assortment of friends, most of whom were part of my life in the past and a few I've "met" through my other friends "liking their posts" or suggesting them to me. I also belong to two closed groups of people with the same odd physical problem I've had for the last five years - also a great use of the internet, since we are scattered all over the world and would never meet someone with the same diagnosis otherwise.

Back to ASD there is definitely a genetic component. My daughter has been formally diagnosed after her son was, there's me, and I strongly suspect one of my brothers, my mother, an uncle, and my grandfather on the maternal side.

Please note that going on and on in text is one of my symptoms - that and I'm the queen of parenthetical remarks. I had started with a bunch of multi quotes, but I could have done most of the thread that way. Here are some that especially got my attention.



That was me until after my grandson's diagnosis - see above. Knowing isn't going to change anything now but it is such a strong validation. Just the fact of not being alone in this is a major relief/help. We're fairly close to the same age, and when we were young Autism was only diagnosed for people with the most severe problems. We were just told to buck up, buckle down, try harder, get along better, etc.

It has been amazing to see how much help early diagnosis has been for my grandson. He has gotten training in how to develop (or at least fake) some of the social skills, has had IEPs in school and been on that list of kids that teachers get, so at least they have known what his issues were and how to best react for some of them. There's no cure, but he learned skills at a very young age that I had to figure out very slowly as an adult.



But it can take a lot of luck and/or trials to get there. I had a very hard time getting and holding jobs before I figured out which areas worked for me and which didn't.



It took a lot of fairly disastrous attempts for me to figure out what I could and couldn't deal with. Oddly enough, some very people oriented jobs did work, and I finally figured out hat it was the ones where I had the knowledge or ability and they were asking me for help. I absolutely couldn't do any type of cold call work where I had to start the interaction.

Things I could do were specialty sales (I once managed and then owned a garden center) and bar-tending. Where I came into my own was working with computer software, before formal computer degrees even touched on PCs. I started with databases, got into doing formal tech support and some web design.



A professor friend of my mother's once confessed that while he did go pheasant and quail hunting he never shot at any birds. It was just a great and socially acceptable way for him to take long autumn walks with his dogs.

When I was in high school I did quite a lot of "fishing" after I discovered that I could take a boat out on the lake to read by myself, and if I had a fishing pole out people would quit bugging me about whether I was okay. I even did catch some fish inadvertently.



I even do okay with Facebook. Asynchronous communication is great. I don't have to participate, but when I do there is no need for back and forth. I can consider what I'm going to say and, unlike verbal communication, I can edit before I "say" it.



Mine is olfactory. One thing I don't like about not smoking is that my sense of smell is much better now. That was an issue on previous quit attempts, but not as much with vaping. Maybe vaping reduces the sense of smell somewhat, too.

Okay, a long enough book. I'll be back though. Asperger's/Autism has become one of my intense interests now.

I think you and I read many of the same books.
(I stare just under the eyes, and smile and say " really? _____ and repeat the last thing they said"
And oh my..... am I ever fun to talk with? )
In listening to them, that's just my way of keeping up the conversation.
If I didn't do that, I'd just nod dumbly and mumble "oh. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. "
My wife loves to tell me how "social" I can be.
I.e. at work, meeting people at a store, etc.
But that just is not how it actually feels. Right?
Too many strings of thought, plus sensitivity to movement, sound, inner thoughts (is he mad at me? What did I do? )
The inability to read social cues.
(I'm the "king" of the 20 min goodbye)
Blurting out whatever thought is in my head,
Wanting to run away from people and places and obligations.
And apparently bring oblivious to the emotions, wants and needs of those around me. (Again, Mrs. Theddead helps me. And I try to help her)
Oh, picky? Yeah. I have people who refuse to watch movies with me (it seems I am insufferable) books, music. .... food.
(Hate red meat (Texture). Pork? Bleh....)
And knowledge?
Want to know what I know?
I hope so, I'm gonna tell you either way.
And judgemental? Ooooooooo boy.
Even I think I am a judgemental jerk.
But I learnt to try to keep my opinions to myself. ( sad face. Lol)
I am loyal as red tick hound though....
So, ye know?
I had a point. Had. A. Point.

Can't remember.
Jeesh.
 

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I think you and I read many of the same books.
(I stare just under the eyes, and smile and say " really? _____ and repeat the last thing they said"
And oh my..... am I ever fun to talk with? )
In listening to them, that's just my way of keeping up the conversation.
If I didn't do that, I'd just nod dumbly and mumble "oh. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. "
My wife loves to tell me how "social" I can be.
I.e. at work, meeting people at a store, etc.
But that just is not how it actually feels. Right?
Too many strings of thought, plus sensitivity to movement, sound, inner thoughts (is he mad at me? What did I do? )
The inability to read social cues.
(I'm the "king" of the 20 min goodbye)
Blurting out whatever thought is in my head,
Wanting to run away from people and places and obligations.
And apparently bring oblivious to the emotions, wants and needs of those around me. (Again, Mrs. Theddead helps me. And I try to help her)
Oh, picky? Yeah. I have people who refuse to watch movies with me (it seems I am insufferable) books, music. .... food.
(Hate red meat (Texture). Pork? Bleh....)
And knowledge?
Want to know what I know?
I hope so, I'm gonna tell you either way.
And judgemental? Ooooooooo boy.
Even I think I am a judgemental jerk.
But I learnt to try to keep my opinions to myself. ( sad face. Lol)
I am loyal as red tick hound though....
So, ye know?
I had a point. Had. A. Point.

Can't remember.
Jeesh.

The whole thing. I loved it. You hit so many notes, pitch-perfect.
 

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Just ordered several more flavors.

Your Order Contains:
  • 2 x Honeydew Melon-Cap
    (Size: 13ml Original Packaging)
  • 1 x Lemon Meringue Pie-Cap
    (Size: 13ml Original Packaging)
  • 1 x Vanillin 10% PG-TFA
    (Size: 10ml)
  • 1 x Lemonade-FW
    (Size: 10ml)
  • 1 x French Vanilla-Cap
    (Size: 13ml Original Packaging)
  • 1 x Custard-FA
    (Size: 10ml Original Bottle)
  • 1 x Virginia-FA
    (Size: 10ml Original Bottle
Just noticed I messed up and ordered 2 of the Honeydew Melon... Ohh well.
They were out of several of the CAP V1 flavors.... Need to check Wizard labs for them I guess.
 
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    Just ordered several more flavors.

    Your Order Contains:
    • 2 x Honeydew Melon-Cap
      (Size: 13ml Original Packaging)
    • 1 x Lemon Meringue Pie-Cap
      (Size: 13ml Original Packaging)
    • 1 x Vanillin 10% PG-TFA
      (Size: 10ml)
    • 1 x Lemonade-FW
      (Size: 10ml)
    • 1 x French Vanilla-Cap
      (Size: 13ml Original Packaging)
    • 1 x Custard-FA
      (Size: 10ml Original Bottle)
    • 1 x Virginia-FA
      (Size: 10ml Original Bottle
    Just noticed I messed up and ordered 2 of the Honeydew Melon... Ohh well.
    They were out of several of the CAP V1 flavors.... Need to check Wizard labs for them I guess.

    You must experiment lots?
     

    theddead

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    Most of us with these conditions are pretty smart with great memories. Not to tune my own horn. I'll have to take that test to see what I get

    Most.
    I hit 44 on the test.
    I like to think I'm smart, my memory sucks.
    But, I lived a little too good for too long.
    Wink, nudge, something something.
     

    Robert Cromwell

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    You must experiment lots?
    yep. I have Flavoritis.
    I make all of my juice. Have to since I have the bitter gene and most bought juice tastes horrible to me. I also cannot tolerate artificial sweetners and many artificial flavors. I wind up trashing about 25% of the flavors I buy but am building up a base of ones I like.
     
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