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Naw he doesn't, he's an actually a pedigree mini pinscher with a genetic mutation that made him all black. He's oversized for show quality at 18lbs, and he is a straight up killer. I was walking him once and he saw a bird on the ground and just as the bird was taking off, he quick sprinted (on a 6 foot leash) and jumped and caught the bird mid-takeoff. So badass lol. He's 7 now, I rescued him when he was 1 & he's lived with me where ever I go, he lived with me at my frat house and moved out to LA with me when I lived there & now he's back in jersey with me
Excellent, it's settled, if the internet bites Robert on the .... Baxter and Sadie will bite it back. :D
 

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I got all excited until I backtracked thru the thread and found out who/what Sadie is :)
Baxter now had me a bit worried.
It's okay I trained Baxter well. He's got a Napoleon complex (aka big dog complex) but once he warms up to you he's a lap dog. He just has strong hunting instincts.
 

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I think there is also a tendency of dual diagnosis that you are missing. I'd assume that many of us here were still diagnosed or going by the "old" definition of aspie that wasn't changed until the DSM-5 came out in 2013. BUT, as with many mental health issues, there is a tendency of dual diagnosis. Very few issues are so cut an dry and many humans tend to have more than one issue at a time.

For instance, I have a friend who is a female aspie. She was abused as a child. (probably because many abusers go after the "weakest link" and aspie children often already have social issues. Thus, when she was abused the symptoms of her abuse were written off as being a part of her aspergeres and as a child she was unable to understand and communicate what was happening. As an adult she now has PTSD, generalized anxiety as a symptom of the PTSD, depression, also a symptom of the PTSD, and aspergers. But it was only recently that her anxiety and depression wasn't included as a symptom specific to aspergers but rather as a symptom related to PTSD.

I think in many cases kids with aspergers grow up to be adults with anxiety and depression for reasons not necessarily BECAUSE of the aspergers, but rather BECAUSE of the way society treats those with aspergers.

For instance, my anxiety is generalized which is it's own whole issue, but it's also MOSTLY social based. I know for a fact that it's because I've felt so out of the loop with how society functions and what they expect from us. A lot of my social anxiety has been borne out trying to cope with aspergers before understanding what was going on and not being able to function the way I was told I should be.
Ex. I'm absolutely horrible at eye contact. I can't do it. Forcing myself to do it is a struggle. Now, I know that it's not "normal" to not make eye contact and I have anxiety over meeting new people because I'm worried that they'll find out I'm not "normal" because I'm incapable of such a small detail of life. The more I try to remind myself to make eye contact, the worse my anxiety becomes. For example, my brain when meeting new people goes like this: "Will they notice if I don't look them in the eyes, ...., look them in the eyes, am I doing this right? it feels so weird, maybe I'm making TOO much eye contact, ...., I'm supposed to say something here. OH NO, now I went off onto a diatribe. Rein in the conversation. Oh jesus, what do I even say here. Damn, you got distracted and haven't made eye contact in 10 minutes. And they really didn't care what you said because you did that fact dropping thing again and talked to them for 10 minutes straight about some random topic."

Thus, my anxiety isn't a symptom of being an aspie so much as it is my brain creating a constant fear of being "found out" and trying to force myself to obey common etiquette. It's caused BY the aspergers but not a symptom OF aspergers. . .

if that made any sense.
It makes about as much sense as anything else with regards to psychiatry. ;)

:D

I was just diagnosed based on the old definition. Single interest, very high function, very low drive to socialize, very low emotional response, low empathy for others.

I really like critters though.

I have no desire to be unkind but I can be quite blunt at times which most people seem to view as harsh. It takes a while for people that I associate with to understand that I don't consider feelings when answering a question.
 

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    It makes about as much sense as anything else with regards to psychiatry. ;)

    :D

    I was just diagnosed based on the old definition. Single interest, very high function, very low drive to socialize, very low emotional response, low empathy for others.

    I really like critters though.

    I have no desire to be unkind but I can be quite blunt at times which most people seem to view as harsh. It takes a while for people that I associate with to understand that I don't consider feelings when answering a question.

    Yeah I understand and know what you mean ... I like most animals too... The problem with me is that I "assume" that I have high amounts of empathy for others. Maybe I really don't though and am only deluding myself? The two largest aspects I have noticed out of the ones that you mentioned is "very low drive to socialize" and "single Interest".... They say I am very high functioning but sometimes I wonder about that. Sometimes I do some pretty stupid things for sure. Things that even the NT's consider stupid. :eek:... I have never really had too much of a problem with face recognition that I hear aspie's often have problems with.

    Simply put, I annoy the h*ll out of most NT's that have ever had to live with me. Most of them want to run around and do varied things. I am completely content to stay in my home and never go anywhere. I hate changing my routines I suppose.
     

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    I enjoy a good song as much as most. Just like I appreciate Shakespeare. As a child I just thought songs about intense feelings were about people with obsession issues or other mental problems just like in literature. I have feels ;) they are just very muted compared to what I observe in NT's.
    Do you sense the full range of emotions expressed in instrumental music, with no vocals or words? Or perhaps, just some of them? If so, are they somewhat muted?
     

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    I think in many cases kids with aspergers grow up to be adults with anxiety and depression for reasons not necessarily BECAUSE of the aspergers, but rather BECAUSE of the way society treats those with aspergers.

    True of Tourette's, too. The rest of the message is really good,too, but I wanted to single that out.
     
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    I have a weird question about music: This will probably sound really weird but hey, I'm used to it...Anyway, most of my life I have listened to and enjoyed music like anybody else. But I have noticed that other folks can sing songs and such and they know the lyrics to each song that they like. The strange thing that I realized quite a few years ago is that I don't know the words to any songs that I ever listen to. In other words, I never pay attention to the vocals or singing of any song. I only listen to the instruments. Have any of you ever heard of someone who does this or is it just my own personal weirdness?
     

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    Usually, I find I know the words, but I have NO clue what the song is about. . . like I've never ACTUALLY listened to the words, they just get into my brain. . .
    generally speaking though, I just listen to instrumental music now, not much music has appealed to me, but that might be the depression talking. >.< Yay Classical radio!
     

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    Usually, I find I know the words, but I have NO clue what the song is about. . . like I've never ACTUALLY listened to the words, they just get into my brain. . .
    generally speaking though, I just listen to instrumental music now, not much music has appealed to me, but that might be the depression talking. >.< Yay Classical radio!

    yeah that's sort of what I was meaning.... I too hear the words but I don't ACTUALLY think upon the words.... People have always asked me what I thought about a certain songs lyrics but I can't answer them because I don't focus on the lyrics that I hear with my ears. It's weird because most NT people that I know focus and concentrate on lyrics as well as the instruments. Not me.
     

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    hahaha. Once in a blue moon I'll be mumbling along to a song I've heard 1000000x and I'll finally catch the meaning of the song. . .

    I've never really understood people who place some crazy deep meaning into song lyrics and act like it's the end all and be all of a song. I'm much more into the "feeling" of a song I guess. . . meh. Might be why I've never been super into music like a lot of people. . .
     

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    I have a weird question about music: This will probably sound really weird but hey, I'm used to it...Anyway, most of my life I have listened to and enjoyed music like anybody else. But I have noticed that other folks can sing songs and such and they know the lyrics to each song that they like. The strange thing that I realized quite a few years ago is that I don't know the words to any songs that I ever listen to. In other words, I never pay attention to the vocals or singing of any song. I only listen to the instruments. Have any of you ever heard of someone who does this or is it just my own personal weirdness?
    I don't think it's weird. A lot of people are oblivious to the words. I doubt many are oblivious to the singing, other than the words in it. But that in no way makes it weird.

    Maybe you have a hightened appreciation of the more abstract aspects of songs. Then again, maybe you were burned early on by hearing bad lyrics, which are very common, and are not willing to go down that road again, and therefore, just tune out the words, and the singer who's delivering them, altogether.

    My usual disclaimer:
    I could be wrong. You may be weird.
     
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