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I haven't see @Robert Cromwell on here lately --- Hope he is okay?

He's around. I think he's hanging with the Tootle-puffers. Had to got stir supper. I guess I missed your streak through the thread.

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I wouldn't expect a single conversation to make everything better. It's a process, and having people in your life who care and are willing to listen is going to be an important part of that journey -- as long as you let people help or at least be honest with them about how you're doing. Thinking about how you feel when you can help someone might make it easier for you to accept help. It feels good to know that someone trusts you and that you have something to offer them. Looked at that way, it's almost selfish to not accept help when offered. And, EVERYONE needs help sometimes.

I encourage you to consider @Atchafalaya's suggestion regarding medication. Therapy and medication are two tools that can be very helpful in dealing with depression. Take inventory of what's available in your life that can help and take advantage. Not only are you going to feel better, but you're going to be a better friend, a better boyfriend, a better worker as your depression improves.
I just saw this.
It did help alot now that I am feeling better and gave me some clarity. The issue is I am always the one who is helping and I am having a hard time excepting that I am the kit who needs the help in a major way. I am against meds and therapy because I don't want to change how I feel by altering my chemicals I want to stabilize and normalize my self. Therapy seems like I will just get told what I should hear to. Normalize and not reality.
I think I can pull through this but dunno for sure.

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Therapy seems like I will just get told what I should hear to. Normalize and not reality. I think I can pull through this but dunno for sure.

I think you can and will pull through this. As for meds and/or therapy, I respect your decision, but I can share my experiences with both. First, I've seen a few therapists, and in my experience they're more about listening then they are suggesting what you should do -- sometimes irritatingly so. I found that the process can help uncover some pretty unhealthy or "magical thinking," such feeling responsible for things you logically could have no control over. I've found that sometimes just saying something aloud can be enough to loosen the stranglehold of some pretty nasty feelings.

As for meds, they're not for everybody. A good psychiatrist will work with you to find what works better/best. Ideally, you should feel more like yourself, not less. Feeling like you're struggling through thick mud or an endless black tunnel is usually off-kilter brain chemistry, not your true self. Sadness can be a normal, natural response to real events, but when it goes on too long, it can cause more permanent or at least tenacious changes to your brain. Meds can help reset things, and help get you into a better position to make some of the longer-term changes you want in your life.

I guess I'd just like to encourage you to keep an open mind and do some research. If you have insurance that would cover it, it might not hurt to try seeing a therapist and be upfront about misgivings. Ask questions. Hear what they have to say, see how you feel about the interaction. If you still want nothing to do with the process, you're not out anything more than 50 minutes of your time.
 

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I think you can and will pull through this. As for meds and/or therapy, I respect your decision, but I can share my experiences with both. First, I've seen a few therapists, and in my experience they're more about listening then they are suggesting what you should do -- sometimes irritatingly so. I found that the process can help uncover some pretty unhealthy or "magical thinking," such feeling responsible for things you logically could have no control over. I've found that sometimes just saying something aloud can be enough to loosen the stranglehold of some pretty nasty feelings.

As for meds, they're not for everybody. A good psychiatrist will work with you to find what works better/best. Ideally, you should feel more like yourself, not less. Feeling like you're struggling through thick mud or an endless black tunnel is usually off-kilter brain chemistry, not your true self. Sadness can be a normal, natural response to real events, but when it goes on too long, it can cause more permanent or at least tenacious changes to your brain. Meds can help reset things, and help get you into a better position to make some of the longer-term changes you want in your life.

I guess I'd just like to encourage you to keep an open mind and do some research. If you have insurance that would cover it, it might not hurt to try seeing a therapist and be upfront about misgivings. Ask questions. Hear what they have to say, see how you feel about the interaction. If you still want nothing to do with the process, you're not out anything more than 50 minutes of your time.
I have forgiven my self. It hurt to do but I did it. I still don't feel better It almost feels like I am trying to pick up broken glass. I dropped it and then it shattered now picking up the shards I keep getting cut. I would say that is a fair analogy. But today I am gonna go wheeling I thinks

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I have forgiven my self. It hurt to do but I did it. I still don't feel better It almost feels like I am trying to pick up broken glass. I dropped it and then it shattered now picking up the shards I keep getting cut

One of the things I've heard from therapists is that it can feel worse before it feels better. If you pull out a shard of glass, it's going bleed a bit before it starts to heal.

A day outside sounds great.
 
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