Aspire Nautilus has a Chromed Brass chimney.

[kkay59]

I think it matters, but there is nothing I can do about it, at this point. If I start to see something, I will quit using it. This was supposed to be stainless steel. If it is not stainless steel, they have used false advertising as far as I am concerned. I am very perturbed about this whole thing. If I find that they flat out lied, they will lose my future business on tanks. Stainless steel is not that expensive. Those tanks are not cheap. They risked losing a huge customer base, if they have not been honest. I am new to vaping, and I feel like I have been burned on it. I am so thankful I didn't get the other mini tanks I had planned on ordering.

So can we assume that as long as the coating is intact, it doesnt matter if it is brass or steel?

 

[jdrewry]

Is the issue with the chrome chimney involve all the Nautilus tanks, or just the clones? I like the Nautilus tank, but have no problem putting it aside if the chrome chimney is on all of them, clones or authentic.

 

[fogging_katrider]

Is the issue with the chrome chimney involve all the Nautilus tanks, or just the clones? I like the Nautilus tank, but have no problem putting it aside if the chrome chimney is on all of them, clones or authentic.

Authentic Nautilus tank chimney Is chrome plated brass, Fully documented in this thread by and confirmed by Aspire !

Chrome fully covering inside bore ? not likely imnsho

 

[Jake67]

I ran a Q tip in throughout the entire chimney. Thankful that the Q tip had nothing other than juice residual. No green residue that would be evident if it was just brass.
I also sent a message via the Aspire page on Facebook. I have yet to receive a reply.
I'll update if, and when I do.


Sent from my iPhone

 

[Racehorse]

Sorry. I don't own one yet--I've been waiting for an answer from Aspire regarding that fiberglass... since August.

Answered, then unaswered? Gosh.

Well, let's give them some time to do some damage control.

The reason I never bought one is because 2 of them cost as much as a PV.......so I held off. If they are THAT expensive now, can you imagine what the prices would be if they were using real surgical stainless steel? Or maybe they were that expensive "because" that is what they said we were getting.....




Sometimes I feel like old school was better, I still feel "safe" using my old stash of cartos.

 

[Katya]

Answered, then unaswered? Gosh.

Well, let's give them some time to do some damage control.

Yup. My 6 emails to date went unanswered (since late August), my inquiry on the website was censored, and now their own old answer (and the lab test result attached) are all gone. All that's left is the OP from August. The post count still shows 2 posts though--they should fix that.

Do I smell a rat?

Aspire Support: •View topic - bvc wicking material

Aspire lab test results (now deleted--yes, I saved the file) stating clearly that the material tested is fiberglass.

http://kn100.info/hosted/scs.pdf

About fiberglass:

http://srs.unm.edu/industrial-hygiene/media/docs/silica.pdf

Multiple studies have found amorphous silica to be biologically inert when
ingested and inhaled, with the exception of extruded fiberglass and ceramic fibers (which have been
designated as carcinogens by the National Toxicology Program), which are hazardous due to their
very small size and their high length to width aspect ratio. Because of this inertness, the US Food
and Drug Administration permits the use of amorphous silica (not fiberglass or ceramic fibers!) in food
and medicine.

 

[Fattlestar]

Not sure what to make of all this really. As far as the drip tip thing goes, I know that mine haven't rusted, so a non-issue.

Brass and Fiberglass is an issue, but there isn't enough testing going on with these products to give me any kind of information that is in the least bit solid.

Will be sad to throw away 100$ of equipment though. And what to replace it with is another mystery to be solved if I have to. Kanger comes from the same place.

 

[DPLongo22]

Considering the fact that I sucked down smoke for thirty-some-odd years, I'm not throwing away anything just yet.

To be continued...

 

[Racehorse]

Yup. My 6 emails to date went unanswered (since late August), my inquiry on the website was censored, and now their own old answer (and the lab test result attached) are all gone. All that's left is the OP from August. The post count still shows 2 posts though--they should fix that.

Do I smell a rat?

Aspire Support: •View topic - bvc wicking material

Aspire lab test results (now deleted--yes, I saved the file) stating clearly that the material tested is fiberglass.

http://kn100.info/hosted/scs.pdf

About fiberglass:

http://srs.unm.edu/industrial-hygiene/media/docs/silica.pdf

Katya, I *think* they may (in china) refer to silica as fiberglass, although they are not the same thing.

I'll let somebody else come along to discuss, but I believe silica is safe and fiberglass isn't.

OTOH, if one wanted to get technical, here is used silica wick under a microscope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWO5n3M335k

I am not a scientist so I don't know answer.

 

[gerrymi]

Thanks for the info, I just threw all of my Nautilus tanks in the trash.

Well...after a little over a year into my vaping adventures...I've found the perfect vape to be a Nauty Mini (1.8 Ω BVC) on an iStick (at 10.5 Watts).

So now I'm going to throw all of my Nauty's into the trash.

And I may as well throw all my iSticks into the trash too. (They do, after all, use Mean Voltage rather than RMS Voltage )

So...back to the ol' NJoy's.

Or...back to my 2 PPD of analogs. Instead of brass??? or fiberglass???...tobacco only contains 4,000 chemicals, 400 of which are poisonous and 40 of which cause cancer.

 

[bigbells]

Authentic Nautilus tank chimney Is chrome plated brass, Fully documented in this thread by and confirmed by Aspire !

Chrome fully covering inside bore ? not likely imnsho

I have never done any chrome plating but I have the (possibly wrong) impression that it is done by immersion. If it is done by immersion then it would be difficult to avoid chrome-plating the inside of the chimney unless the inside was stuffed with something to keep that from happening.

Given the number of years that I've played brass musical instruments with brass mouthpieces, and the huge amounts of green corrosion that I've regularly removed from the guts of the instruments that I've played, I'm just not going to worry about vaping through a brass chimney. However, I'm 63 and may have less to lose than younger folk. I absolutely love my Nautilus tanks with BVC coils!

 

[nyiddle]

It starts out at 1.8 ohms. Then after a few puffs, it goes straight to a 1.9....

This is normal, and isn't a reason to have to replace the heads.. I hope you know.

Also, I just told a friend (who was considering a Nautilus) to hold off until Aspire gives some other word about this.. I'm not so "worried" about the brass being an alloy/potentially having other nasty metals in it. I just feel duped. I bought the Nauti when it came out, for about 40$. If you told me beforehand that the parts I'd be inhaling through WEREN'T stainless steel, I wouldn't have bought it.

 

[Phibes]

Or...back to my 2 PPD of analogs. Instead of brass??? or fiberglass???...tobacco only contains 4,000 chemicals, 400 of which are poisonous and 40 of which cause cancer.

I know what you mean and I agree. I believe that all vapers agree with that.
No one can be certain if brass can harm us. Either way, the main issue here is that Aspire didn't say that the chimney is brass until someone actually proved it.

And I'm pretty sure that they decided to go with the "All Stainless Steel", cause otherwise it would affect sales.

 

[kkay59]

Thank you for telling me that. So you are supposed to change the head at 2.0 if it was a 1.8 ohm coil? I know that number is probably not concrete. The taste goes down before it hits 2.0 on the MVP 2. Once it hits 2.0 ohms for the coil, the draw is harder as well. I did not taste burnt flavor, but it was bland before it hit 2.0, or soon thereafter.
I tried the same thing today with a new coil, on another type Aspire tank, the ET-S, it went straight to a 1.9 after several puffs. I don't want to waste money, but I want to have good flavor too. I have only been vaping a little over 2 weeks, so I am very new to this.

This is normal, and isn't a reason to have to replace the heads.. I hope you know.

Also, I just told a friend (who was considering a Nautilus) to hold off until Aspire gives some other word about this.. I'm not so "worried" about the brass being an alloy/potentially having other nasty metals in it. I just feel duped. I bought the Nauti when it came out, for about 40$. If you told me beforehand that the parts I'd be inhaling through WEREN'T stainless steel, I wouldn't have bought it.

 

[Pinggolfer]

Considering the fact that I sucked down smoke for thirty-some-odd years, I'm not throwing away anything just yet.

To be continued...

You more then likely smoked some brass in those Marlboros DP.

 

[Racehorse]

You more then likely smoked some brass in those Marlboros DP.

That is precisely why I gave them up.

I have an expectation that the ecig industry properly inform consumers if and when an avoidable risk is discovered, and to disclose that risk.

Otherwise, we are on the same path as we were dealing with the unethical shenanigans of Big Tobacco and their death sticks. And that is not a path I choose for myself.

I took up vaping for harm reduction in an effort to ameliorate years of damage to my lungs and body. I do not feel that my past smoking behavior sentences me to the same kind of future.

I ascribe to the concept of "cumulative harm", and that means that I want to vape as safely as possible. I can only do that if I have the knowledge of what I am vaping on, and what I am inhaling into my lungs.

 

[nyiddle]

Thank you for telling me that. So you are supposed to change the head at 2.0 if it was a 1.8 ohm coil? I know that number is probably not concrete. The taste goes down before it hits 2.0 on the MVP 2. Once it hits 2.0 ohms for the coil, the draw is harder as well. I did not taste burnt flavor, but it was bland before it hit 2.0, or soon thereafter.
I tried the same thing today with a new coil, on another type Aspire tank, the ET-S, it went straight to a 1.9 after several puffs. I don't want to waste money, but I want to have good flavor too. I have only been vaping a little over 2 weeks, so I am very new to this.

As your coils gunk up, the resistance is bound to increase. Depending on the VG/PG and what specific flavorings are used in your juice, this may take more or less time. Swapping out the coils for the purpose of flavor is one thing, but the change in ohms in itself is not a reason to swap the coil. Among other things, the difference between 1.8ohms and 2 ohms is very negligible.

I've noticed the BVC's do tend to get a bit "bland" after they have been used for a period of time. For me, it's after 4-8 refills of the tank (depending on the e-juice, thicker, sweeter, darker juices kill the coils much faster).

Do you clean your heads? Or do you just toss and replace?

 

[kkay59]

I do not clean the heads. I have been saving them though. That way if I do decide to rebuild them, I will have several. I will only try the larger Nautilus heads, because the regular size looks like too much to deal with, since they are smaller. I have not been saving them. Still, I want to know whether they are using fiberglass or not. I do not want fiberglass in my vaping products. I worked with fiberglass for a few months, and I literally hate the stuff.

As your coils gunk up, the resistance is bound to increase. Depending on the VG/PG and what specific flavorings are used in your juice, this may take more or less time. Swapping out the coils for the purpose of flavor is one thing, but the change in ohms in itself is not a reason to swap the coil. Among other things, the difference between 1.8ohms and 2 ohms is very negligible.

I've noticed the BVC's do tend to get a bit "bland" after they have been used for a period of time. For me, it's after 4-8 refills of the tank (depending on the e-juice, thicker, sweeter, darker juices kill the coils much faster).

Do you clean your heads? Or do you just toss and replace?

 

[nyiddle]

I do not clean the heads. I have been saving them though. That way if I do decide to rebuild them, I will have several. I will only try the larger Nautilus heads, because the regular size looks like too much to deal with, since they are smaller. I have not been saving them. Still, I want to know whether they are using fiberglass or not. I do not want fiberglass in my vaping products. I worked with fiberglass for a few months, and I literally hate the stuff.

You might want to consider cleaning them to save money. I've heard a variety of methods of doing it. The most popular seems to be using a clear alcohol (such as vodka) and soaking the coils in it, then allowing the alcohol to evaporate. Give it a dry-burn and it should be good to go. You might want to confirm with someone who has actually done this method, as I personally have not. I've also heard you can basically rinse them under water and then dry-burn the water off (until the crackle/sizzle stops) and you'll end up with a virtually brand-new head.

I've never understood the purpose of rebuilding heads. Seems like a lot more trouble than it's worth, and as a person who used to spend ~16$ per day on cigarettes (2 packs a day in New Jersey), buying a pack of 5 heads every week or two doesn't seem too bad.

All that said, I am gonna hold off on using my Nautilus for the time being, till Aspire quits being so shady (which may never happen).

 

[roosterado]

I do not clean the heads. I have been saving them though. That way if I do decide to rebuild them, I will have several. I will only try the larger Nautilus heads, because the regular size looks like too much to deal with, since they are smaller. I have not been saving them. Still, I want to know whether they are using fiberglass or not. I do not want fiberglass in my vaping products. I worked with fiberglass for a few months, and I literally hate the stuff.

Rip Tripper did a UTube Tutorial on rebuilding the BVC Head using small pieces of Japanese cotton a couple of months ago