Aspire Nautilus has a Chromed Brass chimney.

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Katdarling

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And I changed mine about NOT commenting. ;)

I'm absolutely in a holding pattern here on the safety - toxicity spectrum if one uses the plated brass chimney. A few of us are scurrying around looking for bits of info, but it seems the bigger issue lies with the manufacturer not being upfront about this.

They have admitted it. They've also admitted that "For the chimney is not easy to made of 100% stainless steel."

I suppose it's also not easy to label the box.
 

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Answered, then unaswered? Gosh.

Well, let's give them some time to do some damage control.

The reason I never bought one is because 2 of them cost as much as a PV.......so I held off. If they are THAT expensive now, can you imagine what the prices would be if they were using real surgical stainless steel? Or maybe they were that expensive "because" that is what they said we were getting.....




Sometimes I feel like old school was better, I still feel "safe" using my old stash of cartos. :)

My main gripe is that they are lying to us. The company is selling 30 and 40 dollar "stainless steel" tanks all over the world and we are willing to pay the price because we prefer stainless steel. And they are laughing all the way to the bank. And now that they have been caught with their pants down, their answer is that it's not easy to make a ss chimney???? Give me a break.
 

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but it seems the bigger issue lies with the manufacturer not being upfront about this.

I agree, Kat, 2 different issues really.....we can do our own due dilligence IF we are given the correct information / disclosure to begin with. And then, we can also make our own decisions on what to use, and what to vape (in the case of eliquids).

Without accurate specs, and/or disclosure of materials / ingredients, we really can't steer our own boats, so to speak.

I think that is what most vapers want........we just want to know stuff. :) Most of it we get info from each other, esp. in the olden days of vaping, sans manuals, sans.....a lot of stuff. :lol: But now, it's grown into a pretty big industry, as has this forum, we are not all cozied up in a corner being able to supply information, etc.

So, we are more reliant on the huge number of manufacturers, distributors, vendors, etc. and such to give us the information we need to make simple decisions. They need to be more specific about what materials we are purchasing, etc. since vapers are spending a lot of $$ and deserve this information.
 
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Katya, I *think* they may (in china) refer to silica as fiberglass, although they are not the same thing.

I'll let somebody else come along to discuss, but I believe silica is safe and fiberglass isn't.

They can afford to hire a translator and to consult a materials engineer. Those coils sell for 2-3 bucks a piece.

Amorphous silica (or fiberglass) is probably OK. Crystalline fiberglass is not.

I asked Dr. Farsalinos in another thread about that "ceramic" in BVC coils. This is what he said:

For the Aspire ceramic wick, i cannot understand why they are using a material which is avoided even for thermal insulation in houses....
 

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And I changed mine about NOT commenting. ;)

I'm absolutely in a holding pattern here on the safety - toxicity spectrum if one uses the plated brass chimney. A few of us are scurrying around looking for bits of info, but it seems the bigger issue lies with the manufacturer not being upfront about this.

They have admitted it. They've also admitted that "For the chimney is not easy to made of 100% stainless steel."

I suppose it's also not easy to label the box.
I was in a holding pattern waiting for you to post.

Everyone is concerned about brass. I'd be more concerned about the chrome disintegrating.
 

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Amorphous silica (or fiberglass) is probably OK. Crystalline fiberglass is not.

I asked Dr. Farsalinos in another thread about that "ceramic" in BVC coils. This is what he said:

I wish I new more about what the ceramic is in the BVC coils. I have ceramic blocks in my woodstove, they are for very high temp applications and hard ceramic. Then there is the microporous insulation, including the blanket type with needles spun from ceramic fibers.

I don't know a lot about ceramic, except it is quite easy to break, and that people were using it from fish tank heaters or something here a while back to make wicks? Hard to work with since they do break easily.
 

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I was in a holding pattern waiting for you to post.

Everyone is concerned about brass. I'd be more concerned about the chrome disintegrating.

I do think you are right. The issues are triplets. Quadruplets if you add in the lack of accurate information, after being asked.
 

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Hmmm not sure I would take there word for that on the SIlo tank, I just read a post by Todd (Reviewer) that said that they are made by the same people that make the Nautilus) but are designed in the USA. I guess the only sure way to find out would be to buy one and sand down the chimney.Maybe Beyond Vape just think its SS just like we thought the Nautilus was.
 

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I'm not overly concerned about it yet. Not stopping using mine, and certainly not throwing them away. Or my isticks.

best regards, larry mac

Same here, best vape I've had so far, and after 42yrs of smoking, I'm sure I put many more dangerous things in my lungs. Time will tell though.
 

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Atlantisboy..... my unspoken thoughts.

But to balance the scales (and for that reason alone), do we need REALLY worry about this as an issue? Or is it much more important than meets the eye... torn.
The problem is what's made in China doesn't stay in China. Who better to test products on then desperate ex smokers.
 

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Atlantisboy..... my unspoken thoughts.

But to balance the scales (and for that reason alone), do we need REALLY worry about this as an issue? Or is it much more important than meets the eye... torn.

Kat, I guess it comes down to personal comfort level but I know I don't want bits of chrome plating going in my juice which is then reacting with brass. Does anyone in this thread have a Silo they would be willing to sand to see if it is SS?If not I will probably purchase the cheaper Silo Lite and sand it at some point.
 

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Another option would would be to contact the companies that are selling the Nautilus tanks. Both in the US and abroad. They should be willing and able to confirm if in fact the chimney is 100% stainless steel. If they can't stand behind behind the product then I wouldn't buy it.
I have 7 of these tanks between the full size and the minis.
Until now I have been OK with the wicking material used in the BVC Coils.
I have 11-12 boxes of coils.
If Aspire is lying about the chimney then I can no longer trust the tanks, coils, or the company. That's a bunch of cash in the trash.
The silo without the BVC coil is just another tank.
I guess I'll be taking my kayfuns out of retirement and go back to rebuilding.
Looking forward to Provape introducing their new tank.
I need a company that I can rely on.


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