At work at the gas station...

[Sludge Van Diesel]

but I wear a helmet when I ride a motorcycle.

You had me up until that point. I don't, but then again mine does have 3 wheels* & UK law says I don't have to if I don't want to.

I suppose that's about choice, I choose to endanger myself. Thoes that vape at a petrol pump not only endanger themselves, but those around them.

OK Jim I'm back with you now



*& here it is

 

[Jim Davis]

You had me up until that point. I don't, but then again mine does have 3 wheels* & UK law says I don't have to if I don't want to.

I suppose that's about choice, I choose to endanger myself. Thoes that vape at a petrol pump not only endanger themselves, but those around them.

OK Jim I'm back with you now

*& here it is

Helmets are not required in Texas either, but I don't consider things like this as being paranoid. More of a precaution.

I've seen a lot of freak accidents in my life. Hell, I did a lot of crazy things when I was a kid. I was one of the lucky ones. Some of my friends were not.

 

[Araddoman]

How can you say a person is paranoid when he chooses to wait a few extra minutes until he's away from the gas pump? How about looking both ways before walking into the street? A face shield while welding? Call me crazy, but I wear a helmet when I ride a motorcycle.

You are confusing paranoia with common sense.

No, paranoia (undue anyway) and common sense are two completely different things.

First off, I don't vape while I pump gas since I never have and don't need to. If I ever do feel like it though, I certainly have no problem doing so.

Next, your looking both ways before crossing a street, face shield when welding, and wearing a helmet examples are very much in the realm of common sense. Maybe it takes common sense ITSELF to see the difference between undue paranoia and common sense?

It is all about probability. Take a person that does each of your examples (but the unsafe way) and also vapes while pumping his gas at a gas station every time he fills up....for say 50 years. He does each of these things every day. The ODDS that he will be "negatively affected" by not looking both ways, not wearing a face shield, and not wearing a helmet are extremely high, off the charts even. This is for each of the examples. He almost certainly WILL wreck his motorcycle at least once, will be affected in some negative way from not wearing a face shield, and would likely be severely injured or dead several times over from being hit by a car from not looking both ways.

The vaping at a gas station part? Realistically, his odds of being blown up at the gas station are still effectively 0% after those 50 years. THAT is the difference between common sense and hiding in a hole.

 

[Jim Davis]

Araddoman;

I can agree with that. It *is* all about probability, and I can see that a good number of people don't agree with me. No problem there either. I don't go overboard on things like this. I've done dangerous things before, and I have the scars, and a few missing body parts to prove it. But when I did those things, I only hurt myself.

If I occasionally drink a few beers, I won't drive. I don't try to race the red lights. I won't vape while pumping gas. There are a few others, but that's just the way I do things. It's just a matter of - Why take the chance?

An e-cig causing an explosion may be only a fraction of 1%, but if it does happen and kills or burns innocent people, I know that I won't be the cause of it.

 

[Araddoman]

Araddoman;

I can agree with that. It *is* all about probability, and I can see that a good number of people don't agree with me. No problem there either. I don't go overboard on things like this. I've done dangerous things before, and I have the scars, and a few missing body parts to prove it. But when I did those things, I only hurt myself.

If I occasionally drink a few beers, I won't drive. I don't try to race the red lights. I won't vape while pumping gas. There are a few others, but that's just the way I do things. It's just a matter of - Why take the chance?

An e-cig causing an explosion may be only a fraction of 1%, but if it does happen and kills or burns innocent people, I know that I won't be the cause of it.

Fair enough.

 

[optsmk]

Next time he starts dumping gasoline on himself, he should surely be careful.

Until then, we're just going to see the "static electricity" repeats, and finally, the "its just like a cell phone which has caused fires!!!" (which they haven't).

Here is a scenario that would create a fire at a gas station with an e-cig.

Let's say a car pulls up to the pump and there is already a puddle of gas next to the car. The attendant Pulls the fill hose off the pump and flips the handle. Then the attnedant takes a big ol giant hit off of his e-cig, steps into the puddle of gas, starts to fall, drops the nozzle on the ground causing the fill hose to be stuck in the on position, then falls against the car striking the car with the hand that is holding the e-cig, causing the cart to fly off of his e-cig, then trying to brace his fall, puts his hand that is holding the e-cig in front of him, his hand that is holding the e-cig hits the ground with the metal edge of the atty striking the ground causing a spark and the added heat at the end of his red hot atty from him taking such a big hit ignites the puddle of gas which quickly ignites the gas that is streaming from the pump turning the nozzle into a hideous naplam flame thrower.

It's probably not going to happen, but I suppose theoretically it's possible.

So, there is a lesson to be learned from this scenario. If you ever do something similar to this don't be stupid enough to put your hand down to brace your fall. Just put your hand with the e-cig high in the air and let your face take the brunt of the impact. It's only common sense so dont be stupid.

 

[healthysmoking]

Hey put that thing out, if you blow up my car I'm gonna kill you. That was the first great joke about e-cigs, lol. JZ