At work at the gas station...

[emus]

The fumes coming out of the tank are above the UEL.
Then air dilutes the fumes to the explosive range.
Finally the air dilutes the fumes below the LEL.
Just try not to hold your ignition source in the explosive mixture zone and you will live.

 

[Jim Davis]

Good emus;

And who knows? When it finally happens, (I didn't say *if*, because I believe it will happen some day.) It may not be due to an atomizer. It could be ignited by a faulty battery, or battery switch.

I'm a true believer of Murphy's Law.

 

[Timtam]

All we are saying is if you can't wait the 2-3 mins to pump a tank then you have problems. Hell, I've heard of a plumber who had his lighter in his pocket, was digging a hole, bent over, the gas came out, he struck a metal pipe with his shovel, making a spark, and seriously injuring him.

 

[tribalmasters]

Inside the car is not as bad as standing at the pump. It takes what? No more than 5 minutes to pump a tank of gas? Someone can't wait 5 minutes to vape?

Simply amazing.

Because I can't drive I'm the passenger at all times hehe, most times I put it away when stopping for fuel to avoid being mistaken for smoking but other times I just vape downwards and forget to put it away hehe especially with an auto battery dangling!

 

[freeskierpj]

All we are saying is if you can't wait the 2-3 mins to pump a tank then you have problems. Hell, I've heard of a plumber who had his lighter in his pocket, was digging a hole, bent over, the gas came out, he struck a metal pipe with his shovel, making a spark, and seriously injuring him.

I am working here it's not just like I'm stopping for gas which I don't generally vape since I just wanna get my gas pumped and leave and I've usually been vaping on the way there. However I've been in situations where I've gone 45 minutes without a chance to step away from the pumps to get a vape in so I vape at the pump. When I'm working solo around 4-6 it's the work time rush so it's not uncommon to have 6-8 cars filling the pumps for a full 30+ minutes which doesn't give you a chance to go vape especially since with credit card users who only want a certain amount we can't preset the pump we just have to wait there till it fills up so that is generally my chance to vape since I have to wait there anyways might as well take the downtime to get some nic into my system cause it's a stressful time having that many people and not being able to let them pump (its a town bylaw that it has to be full serve so if the fire marshal sees someone doing it themselves it could get the station shut down)

All I'm saying is imo it's worth the risk of the 1:1,000,000 or less chance that it would actually ignite...

 

[SLDS181]

There are quite a few posts like this already, and very soon, some idiot is going to kill someone at a gas pump. You can laugh at me now, but bookmark this post for future reference.

Jim, I have to laugh at this.

By this thinking...

Engines make gas stations explode.

Pump LCD's make gas stations explode.

Car batteries make gas stations explode.

And so on. And standing at the pump is SAFER than standing next to the car, btw. Because static discharge along the car could cause ignition at the tank, the entry point, where there are actual vapors quickly dissipating.

Bookmark away.

 

[Zofryer]

Vaping at a gas pump is totally irresponsible.

An e-cig atomizer heats well beyond the flash point of gasoline vapor. It's unlikely that an explosion would result, but not impossible, and strange things happen.

There are quite a few posts like this already, and very soon, some idiot is going to kill someone at a gas pump. You can laugh at me now, but bookmark this post for future reference.

The cars rolling up to the pumps themselves are a friggin cornucopia of ignition sources be it from engine electronics, spinning metal item static frictions, rubber against metal static discharge, you name it. To think something as tiny as a shielded atomizer inside an e-cig with almost zero exposure to the open air could ignite an invisible cloud of gas fumes that YOUR CAR did not set off is ridiculous. It's a common misconception though, so don't feel bad.

 

[Xeno]

Ding Ding Ding I call an end to this discussion on the 3rd page. Zofryer wins by logic knockout..
k thx bye

 

[Red Handed]

interesting stuff.... ha ha this dude had me crackin up!!

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

And standing at the pump is SAFER than standing next to the car

Just curious, don't you park your car next to the pump when filling up?

 

[$igmund]

Just curious, don't you park your car next to the pump when filling up?

No way! it's too dangerous- better leave it at home.

 

[SLDS181]

Just curious, don't you park your car next to the pump when filling up?

Thats actually the issue - your body next to the car at the point of entry, being inside the car and getting out while pumping, or leaning on it when pumping, can cause static discharge

Standing next to the pump, waiting for it to click, thats the right solution to avoid the highly unlikely chance of fire caused by static electricity.

 

[Araddoman]

This thread is hilarious.

I don't bother thinking about things that *could* be dangerous if all the stars align just right, hell freezes over, and oprah turns into a good show.

If you're going to be super-paranoid and shy away from any sort of dangerous statistical possibility that registers above impossible, you might as well stay in your home so a shingle doesn't fall off your roof and kill you. Why? It *could* happen.

Whatever floats your boat though. Hide in a hole if you want to.

 

[freeskierpj]

This thread is hilarious.

I don't bother thinking about things that *could* be dangerous if all the stars align just right, hell freezes over, and oprah turns into a good show.

If you're going to be super-paranoid and shy away from any sort of dangerous statistical possibility that registers above impossible, you might as well stay in your home so a shingle doesn't fall off your roof and kill you. Why? It *could* happen.

Whatever floats your boat though. Hide in a hole if you want to.

Exactly haha for example it's much more likely to get hit by some idiot who decides to run a red light when you're going through an intersection than to explode a gas station with an ecig does that stop you from driving? Didn't think so, everything is dangerous...you can trip down your stairs fall and break your neck technically so do you never go down stairs?

 

[Kattdaddy]

Exactly haha for example it's much more likely to get hit by some idiot who decides to run a red light when you're going through an intersection than to explode a gas station with an ecig does that stop you from driving? Didn't think so, everything is dangerous...you can trip down your stairs fall and break your neck technically so do you never go down stairs?

No dude... Here it is!!!!

My grandpa drank himself silly and ate beans like they were going out of style.. I' sure you see where this is going..
Never fart man.... He did right next to one of those old element style radiators and blew it out of the wall. The flames didn't hurt him.. as he was thrown several feet away but the radiator landed right on him and gave him a limp for the rest of his life.
So, all you paranoid folks out there.. Don't fart next to radiators and maybe you will live full and happy lives... Man!!!

Later,
Tom

 

[alvitae]

This post if funny. I guess some people were raised a bit sheltered. I remember back when they made cars you could work on yourself. Several of us would be pulling a carburetor with lit cigs hanging from our moths with gas pouring everywhere.

Guess what no flames. same thing pulling fuel pumps, Filters, tanks etc. I can't reember a fire ever.

 

[MrNYFC]

Tactless.

Personally, I wouldn't vape while pumping gas into someone elses car only because I'd want to be left alone...but any chance to spread the vapor is time well spent

 

[SLDS181]

Tactless.

Personally, I wouldn't vape while pumping gas into someone elses car only because I'd want to be left alone...but any chance to spread the vapor is time well spent

Well then, I guess its a good thing thats not what he was doing. Which would be obvious if you read it.

 

[Jim Davis]

Exactly haha for example it's much more likely to get hit by some idiot who decides to run a red light when you're going through an intersection than to explode a gas station with an ecig does that stop you from driving? Didn't think so, everything is dangerous...you can trip down your stairs fall and break your neck technically so do you never go down stairs?

How can you say a person is paranoid when he chooses to wait a few extra minutes until he's away from the gas pump? How about looking both ways before walking into the street? A face shield while welding? Call me crazy, but I wear a helmet when I ride a motorcycle.

You are confusing paranoia with common sense.

 

[Jim Davis]

This post if funny. I guess some people were raised a bit sheltered. I remember back when they made cars you could work on yourself. Several of us would be pulling a carburetor with lit cigs hanging from our moths with gas pouring everywhere.

Guess what no flames. same thing pulling fuel pumps, Filters, tanks etc. I can't reember a fire ever.

So You're saying that *everyone* can do this, and noting will happen? Just because it didn't happen to you, means it will not happen to anyone else?