Atmistique Atomizers

[Firestorm]

You need to push the pin further in to the ceramic. I'll set my Diver on the table upside down (with the top of the ceramic touching the table) and with gentle yet firm pressure push the pin down with a small Phillips screwdriver (like for eyeglasses, etc). The bottom of the ceramic cup needs to be seated tightly for the negative wire to make contact and the bottom of the pin should be about flush with the 510 connector.

Don't give up yet. It's really not hard to get it set up, and when it's set up properly it works great.

 

[tmcase]

Yes, its leaking out of the bottom at the pin, and I'm using the 32 ga. Wire. About parts not seating, they dont seat even without a coil/wick. Its like the pins are too long or something. It doesn't leak if I lay it flat, just when it's standing vertical like it would be in my shirt pocket.

If you use NR wire you will be able to seat the ceramic cup easier. 32 ga silver is soft so it will squish when you seat the cup. I'm just a little thing and I don't have any problem now that I'm using NR wire. Also, your leaking is probably due to the cup not being seated tight enough and juice is leaking in around your 32 ga wire.

 

[fraghole]

If you use NR wire you will be able to seat the ceramic cup easier. 32 ga silver is soft so it will squish when you seat the cup. I'm just a little thing and I don't have any problem now that I'm using NR wire. Also, your leaking is probably due to the cup not being seated tight enough and juice is leaking in around your 32 ga wire.

Im already using NR wire. I don't know if it is silver, its probably nickel. I'm using one of the premades that came with diver. Going to cut more off the wick tomorrow. Maybe that will help.

 

[Firestorm]

If you're not getting enough juice flow (i.e., you get dry hits or need to take primer puffs) that's a clear sign that either there's too much wick (that you need to trim) or the wick isn't aligned with the hole. If you're getting flooding or leaks as you stated, I don't think that trimming the wick is the solution. What you described about your pin indicates that it's not pushed in enough - it should fit securely so the cup is pressed against the nest.

 

[tmcase]

Im already using NR wire. I don't know if it is silver, its probably nickel. I'm using one of the premades that came with diver. Going to cut more off the wick tomorrow. Maybe that will help.

I guess I misunderstood you when you said you were using 32 ga wire. I thought you meant you were ONLY using 32 ga wire and no NR wire. Sorry about that. I'm still convinced though that your juice is leaking around the cup because it isn't seated properly. You need to use some force to press the cup and pin together so they are both snug. Do like firestorm or I suggested. If I can do it you can do it.

 

[Konstantinos]

fraghole pls try to do what Firestorm and tmcase suggest.
I have a suspicion that the ceramic of the premade coil maybe is more fat that the usual so u have this problem.
So if u cant push the two parts together, try use the spare ceramic that came with the Diver. If u still have the same problem pls inform us.

 

[fraghole]

fraghole pls try to do what Firestorm and tmcase suggest.
I have a suspicion that the ceramic of the premade coil maybe is more fat that the usual so u have this problem.
So if u cant push the two parts together, try use the spare ceramic that came with the Diver. If u still have the same problem pls inform us.

When I purchased my diver, I bought several extra cups and pins. I have tried some different ones but get the same results. Even without any wire or wick in the cup, I can either push up on the pin from the bottom and the cup comes up, or I can push down on the cup from the top and the pin moves out at the bottom.

Are they supposed snap and pop into place or something? I will try applying more force, I was afraid of breaking the ceramic cup.

I will try again when I get hime from work this afternoon. Thanks you guys for all of your help. I will report back.

 

[Technonut]

When I purchased my diver, I bought several extra cups and pins. I have tried some different ones but get the same results. Even without any wire or wick in the cup, I can either push up on the pin from the bottom and the cup comes up, or I can push down on the cup from the top and the pin moves out at the bottom.

Are they supposed snap and pop into place or something? I will try applying more force, I was afraid of breaking the ceramic cup.

I will try again when I get hime from work this afternoon. Thanks you guys for all of your help. I will report back.

Have you watched any of the Diver vids?

diver rebuildable atomizer setup.. - YouTube

diver rebuildable atomizer part 2 - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv8vIHN7auM

Try pushing the pin into the ceramic with the wick and wire installed without the base to see how much pressure it takes to push the pin in. The ceramic needs to be pressed firmly into the base.. (after I line-up the juice-intake hole in the tube, and mark the base so the ceramic is in the proper position) all the way down to the seal inside. I press my ceramic in first, get the pin started through the base, then I hold the ceramic in place with my index finger, and push the pin into place with my thumb. Both the ceramic and pin must make contact with the seals in the base.

 

[fraghole]

Have you watched any of the Diver vids?

diver rebuildable atomizer setup.. - YouTube

diver rebuildable atomizer part 2 - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv8vIHN7auM

Try pushing the pin into the ceramic with the wick and wire installed without the base to see how much pressure it takes to push the pin in. The ceramic needs to be pressed firmly into the base.. all the way down to the seal inside. I press my ceramic in first, get the pin started through the base, then I hold the ceramic in place with my index finger, and push the pin into place with my thumb. Both the ceramic and pin must make contact with the seals in the base.

Of course, I have watched several vids, but thanks for posting. I will watch these as well, pretty sure I've seen them, but couldn't hurt to watch again.

Thank You :thumbup:

 

[tmcase]

When I purchased my diver, I bought several extra cups and pins. I have tried some different ones but get the same results. Even without any wire or wick in the cup, I can either push up on the pin from the bottom and the cup comes up, or I can push down on the cup from the top and the pin moves out at the bottom.

Are they supposed snap and pop into place or something? I will try applying more force, I was afraid of breaking the ceramic cup.

I will try again when I get hime from work this afternoon. Thanks you guys for all of your help. I will report back.

If all else fails try putting the pin in first and then screw the base on an ego or some other mod. This will secure the pin so it can't come out. Then press the cup in. If the cup still doesn't want to seat then press the cup on your counter top until it does seat. Once you get it seated it will probably be easier the next time. Also make sure you have the NR wire flat against the ceramic cup before you insert the cup. This will give less resistance than if you have the wire bent at 90 degrees.

 

[antfuzz]

Place ceramic cup on firm surface, not your thumb, press the base onto the ceramic cup. Keep the base and the ceramic cup on the firm surface, press the pin into the ceramic cup.

 

[eratikmind]

Happy Diving, everyone. Out and about with a Scuba tank and the Diver, today. Gotta love it.

- Andy

 

[Konstantinos]

fraghole: any news?

Andy: U2 my friend

 

[fraghole]

fraghole: any news?

Andy: U2 my friend

I have disassembled the diver and getting ready to try again. I purchased 8 cups and 4 pins. I have tried all cups and pins in the base of my diver. They fit the same. There is about 1mm play. Push on the cup, the pin moves out, push on the pin, the cup moves out. Its like the pins are a little long, or the plastic piece in the base is a little short. I've placed it on a hard, flat surface (the counter), and pushed with a hard piece of plastic, I feel if I push any harder, I will end breaking the ceramic. I'm sure I'm still doing something wrong. Fixing to try again.

 

[eratikmind]

Still waiting on my Grail and other items, Konstantinos. Apparently, the package has been sitting in New York at the International sorting center for the past few days. It will move soon. It will come.

- Andy

 

[fraghole]

Well back at square 1. Reassembled, finally got the pin and cup to where there not moving, and seated (I thought), and still leaking like hell between the pin and the plastic piece at the bottom. I'm about to give up. This is starting to get to me. I can setup a genny with my eyes closed, but this little thing is straight kickin my ....

 

[nightfell]

Well back at square 1. Reassembled, finally got the pin and cup to where there not moving, and seated (I thought), and still leaking like hell between the pin and the plastic piece at the bottom. I'm about to give up. This is starting to get to me. I can setup a genny with my eyes closed, but this little thing is straight kickin my ....

Frag I don't remember if you said this before. When you are filling up your tank is the feed hole on the diver pushed up in the tank or is it outside of the tank?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

 

[fraghole]

Frag I don't remember if you said this before. When you are filling up your tank is the feed hole on the diver pushed up in the tank or is it outside of the tank?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Inside the tank. Its a billet box tank. So when the ball is down on the tank air can escape so it shouldn't be pressurizing.

 

[fraghole]

Well back at square 1. Reassembled, finally got the pin and cup to where there not moving, and seated (I thought), and still leaking like hell between the pin and the plastic piece at the bottom. I'm about to give up. This is starting to get to me. I can setup a genny with my eyes closed, but this little thing is straight kickin my ....

Update: Trimmed wick. I forgot that I was still using the hill giant's wick method. I think this method is overkill for a 70/30 juice. So far overfeeding has slowed considerably, but still getting some gurgling after about 20 minutes. Leaking has slowed as well, but I can still see juice easing out between the pin and the plastic piece at the bottom of the 510 area. I'm not giving up yet.

 

[Apocalypse]

Update: Trimmed wick. I forgot that I was still using the hill giant's wick method. I think this method is overkill for a 70/30 juice. So far overfeeding has slowed considerably, but still getting some gurgling after about 20 minutes. Leaking has slowed as well, but I can still see juice easing out between the pin and the plastic piece at the bottom of the 510 area. I'm not giving up yet.

Dude, don't give up on the Diver just yet. I am a complete noob and i have got it working (my Kayfun is redundent now!). You need to apply a lot of pressure when seating the ceramic cup in the base, you should feel it slide in by about 1-2mm. I was also afraid i was going to break the ceramic! Once the ceramic is seated invert it put in the brass pin turn back over so that the pin is facing down and then press it against a hard surface. Hope it works out for ya