Atomizer / Cartomizer for life....

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Scubabatdan

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How did I become an "ECF Veteran" suddenly? I'm way too young! Dammit!

Oh shut up grandpa and take your pills....

Hey I was thinking.... scary huh

If I got those eye glasses repair kit... the ones with the tiny screws in them, I wonder if I could thread the IC post so it could be removed with a simple twist of a screwdriver. Those darn needle tips are PITA to work with. They work, dont get me wrong, but to do this outside of my rebuid shop would be difficult at best.
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Put this thing up for sale soon!
Well here's one ready to go, you will have make an adapter for your battery though (looks like DC plug). Holds about 70 drops, looks bullet proof and comes with 3' of wick and nichrome (maybe 20 atties worth).

The unit and cart (which the vid doesn't show) will cost cost about $83 shipped.

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Well here's one ready to go, you will have make an adapter for your battery though (looks like DC plug). Holds about 70 drops, looks bullet proof and comes with 3' of wick and nichrome (maybe 20 atties worth).

The unit and cart (which the vid doesn't show) will cost cost about $83 shipped.

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That looks nice! Tech specs please Willy!
 

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Oh shut up grandpa and take your pills....

Hey I was thinking.... scary huh

If I got those eye glasses repair kit... the ones with the tiny screws in them, I wonder if I could thread the IC post so it could be removed with a simple twist of a screwdriver. Those darn needle tips are PITA to work with. They work, dont get me wrong, but to do this outside of my rebuid shop would be difficult at best.
Dan

Dan, you are showing your age - be carefull.
 

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Well here's one ready to go, you will have make an adapter for your battery though (looks like DC plug). Holds about 70 drops, looks bullet proof and comes with 3' of wick and nichrome (maybe 20 atties worth).

The unit and cart (which the vid doesn't show) will cost cost about $83 shipped.

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Right, if I remeber right that is called a B post connector (4mm x 1.7mm x 9.5mm) that uses a MJ12 chassy mount plug. I much prefer to tinker and build it my self, heck each one I make cost me under 10 bucks. And coupled with the suckaton that holds up to 10ml will last me alooooong time.
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Dan, you never answered my question.....

Is it a boy or girl? ;)

Am very curious where this is going. :pop:

What is the general consensus? Should this "prop" method be combined with the SUCKaTON, top feeding atty or bottom feeding cart?

I guess at the end of the day it may just boil down to personal preference and aesthetics. If you want something small that feels like a real ciggy, the cart or top atty may be best. If you like endurance and lots of liquid holding capacity, the tube juice feed is the answer.

I'm however dying to know how the silica rope is holding out? I gotta get some of that to try.....

The search feature of this forum leaves a lot to be desired. It finds lots of things, just not many things related to your search term. OK, I'll stop whining and ask my question: Can someone point me to the SUCKaTON thread, cause I'll be damned if I can find it. It's not porn right? ;)

Anyway, currently I can only speak to top vs bottom feeding cuz I haven't build a SUCKaTON. I've been using a top-feeding version (with needles & pins of course) and it's great. Before that I tried the bottom-feeding version... and it's great. Both have their pros and cons.

Top-feeding PROS
No epoxy, fiberglass, or thread. I'm a little worried about e-liquid soaking with epoxy. However, everything I read seems to indicate that cured epoxy is very inert.
Design is a little simpler with no glued-in center tube and not much worry of the hypo needles shorting together since they have quite a bit of space between them.
Works great for dripping or using a cart with filler.
Very little to no leakage.

Top-feeding CONS:
Vapor and TH are very good but variable. When the wick is too wet or too dry, vapor and TH suffers. Sweet spot is halfway between refills.
Coil, wick (disc wick in my case), and cart filler must be measured and placed precisely so they just touch. Otherwise, juice won't flow (wick) properly.
Shorter time between refills compared to bottom-feeder.

Bottom-Feeding PROS
Long time between refills.
Vape is more consistent from full to empty.
Can be a one piece atty design. Separate cart not really needed, unless you want to use a dummy.

Bottom-Feeding CONS
Liquid soaking in epoxy and possibly brass/copper could be a health concern. Then again, maybe not.
A little more difficult to build in my opinion.
Leaking is a little more likely than top-feeding - especially when the e-cig is upside-down.

I think what I'm really saying here is that there will be a lot of demand for BOTH. If this gets a sticky I think both versions should be included. To me, the most important central design feature is the "needles-and-pins quick-change coil". That's the real invention here. I can change a coil on mine in 30 seconds, which means my monthly atomizer bill just dropped to near-zero.
 

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Bottom-Feeding CONS
Liquid soaking in epoxy and possibly brass/copper could be a health concern. Then again, maybe not.
A little more difficult to build in my opinion.
Leaking is a little more likely than top-feeding - especially when the e-cig is upside-down.
It depends how you work it. You're top feed version (and l3oertjie's) should work very well on my tip-to-feed ....-fed mod (PT). Note the needle length can be adjusted to the ideal length.

That's why wicking, or liquid capacity is no big deal to me.

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Note the custom mrD Juice catcher. ;)

As far as e-liquid and epoxy the bond, at least, will eventually fail.
 

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It depends how you work it. You're top feed version (and l3oertjie's) should work very well on my tip-to-feed ....-fed mod (PT). Note the needle length can be adjusted to the ideal length.

That's why wicking, or liquid capacity is no big deal to me.

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Note the custom mrD Juice catcher. ;)

As far as e-liquid and epoxy the bond, at least, will eventually fail.


Looks good Willy! So maybe the new sticky thread (if one develops) should just focus on the needle-pin quick-change coil, with a couple examples of designs where it can be used. Really it could be used with almost any design.
 

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The search feature of this forum leaves a lot to be desired. It finds lots of things, just not many things related to your search term. OK, I'll stop whining and ask my question: Can someone point me to the SUCKaTON thread, cause I'll be damned if I can find it. It's not porn right? ;)

Jees KFlyr - can't imagine why you can't find it... It's posted right here: tube juice feeding???.... What?! you thought that it would be called SUCKaTON or something searchable?!?!? Sheesh... :lol:
 

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Jees KFlyr - can't imagine why you can't find it... It's posted right here: tube juice feeding???.... What?! you thought that it would be called SUCKaTON or something searchable?!?!? Sheesh... :lol:

Yeah, I'm not too bright... Maybe too much flux fumes or something. Don't try to say that 5 times quickly - might get you in trouble.
 

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If I may add something for the English guys here, hope this help to save you the research guys. Flee-bay has most of it.

33 swg is 0.18 mm
34 swg is 0.16 mm
35 swg is 0.142 mm
36 swg is 0.127 mm

And the fibre material is commonly called stove rope in the UK.

Just ordered all the bits to have a go.

On behalf of all the Englishmen, thank you for the information DD! Do you have a dead atty yet? I see you have only been vaping 21 days? Or have you been vaping for longer with smoking? I hope you give it up for good! The health benefits are too many to mention! Good luck!
 
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