Atomizer / Cartomizer for life....

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WillyB

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I ordered some of these as a base, after Rocketman commented on how well built and sturdy they are. No adhesive and a ceramic cup.
 

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I will try with the hot melt glue gun.

Would be ok the standard transparent sticks ???

And, would the silicon glue remains stable being in contact with the liquid ??? Because the liquid has alcohol...

Oh please don't glue sticks... think about it, heat melts the glue. I don't know if silicone is a good idea, but I do know that some silicone is rated for high temps. Just don't try silicone with the bottom-fed design, because when you drill little hole thru it, it'll close right back up. You gotta use epoxy with the bottom-fed design. It's my understanding that it's safe to glue dinner plates together with epoxy, so how dangerous can it be?
 

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Oh please don't glue sticks... think about it, heat melts the glue. I don't know if silicone is a good idea, but I do know that some silicone is rated for high temps. Just don't try silicone with the bottom-fed design, because when you drill little hole thru it, it'll close right back up. You gotta use epoxy with the bottom-fed design. It's my understanding that it's safe to glue dinner plates together with epoxy, so how dangerous can it be?
Hey Flyer... and guys... I think I will use some of those 2 component epoxy but I dont know which one will be fine? Do you have any recommendation on components that do not should contain?

Now I have my hands tied, because it can't get Nichrome here, then I bought some on ebay and I am waiting, but can take a long time. I bought Nichrome 80 G36 and Nichrome 60 G36 and G38.

More bad news, I cant find silica rope, and McMaster nor MSC want sell outside USA :(, but now, I am trying to find some fiberglass rope (550º Celsius) in local market. About that... guys, finally, which is the best choice to make the wick? Silica? Fiber glass? candle wick? Someone tested with Zippo wicks ? What is the best actually ?

Another question, the syringe needles that you are using in your designs, what OD have ? because I could buy easily 0.8 mm needles, because these are the common ones, but of more OD are not normal, and to get these I must to buy 100.

Thx Guys....
Gabriel
 

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Just to get back to the topic of epoxy and glue....

I found something that could be of interest in a few of our applications.
Sodium silicate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This stuff could possibly replace epoxy and all the other sealants we use? Maybe even the wick if one can make it porous by adding a compound that would burn away at temperatures above 250°F or so after it has solidified? Something like wood dust maybe? Let's give it a try. I'm convinced it could work and be a long term solution for the ever de-generating wick problem....
 

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Just to get back to the topic of epoxy and glue....

I found something that could be of interest in a few of our applications.
Sodium silicate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This stuff could possibly replace epoxy and all the other sealants we use? Maybe even the wick if one can make it porous by adding a compound that would burn away at temperatures above 250°F or so after it has solidified? Something like wood dust maybe? Let's give it a try. I'm convinced it could work and be a long term solution for the ever de-generating wick problem....

That's fascinating stuff. Thanks for mentioning it!

I'm currently working on a cartomizer consisting of a large chamber with a couple silicon hoses run into it. I'll need to seal around the hoses and I'm undecided as between silicon and jb weld.
 

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Persis/Gabriel Believe it or not, some heretics out there are trying candle wicks for their attys... :) (Yes, Flyer, that was a direct poke at you!)

If you want to try some silica, PM me and I can mail you a couple of grams....


Couple a grams?? C'mon Bubo, you got enough silica rope to build your own mummy :)
 

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Thanks for all the great info in this thread. I should be able to start on an atty by Monday. Waiting on needles from Amazon and 1/16" tubing from Mark Twain Hobby Center. They both show shipped. I haven't heard from McMasters on the silica but I'll make the first one with candle wick if all else fails. I think I can get the thin copper wire and 1/8th inch tubing locally. I ordered the 1/16th when I decided to use it because ss needles are impossible to solder. (I know you can do it with acid flux but a key rule in electronics has always been not to use acid on a joint that is exposed to electrical current. I am really not sure how long it would take the solder joint to erode). I think that the 1/16 tubing would be a problem from expansion after installing the needles a few times. Your idea of tightly winding the thin copper wire on the blunts seems to be a great way to do it. What do you think about heat shrink tubing for the exposed portion of the riser tube and the pos and neg blunts?
 

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Your idea of tightly winding the thin copper wire on the blunts seems to be a great way to do it. What do you think about heat shrink tubing for the exposed portion of the riser tube and the pos and neg blunts?

Searcher, I think heat shrink is a brilliant idea! This would also prevent your e-liquid to come come into contact with the metal tubes thereby prolonging the quality of the liquid. I am most certainly also going to try it.

Thanks for sharing your idea.
 

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I'm having issues soldering the nichrome to the wires off an atty connector. I'm using 62/36/2 rosin-core solder silver bearing from Radio Shack..Soldering doesn't want to stick, but I think I saw this discussed here somewhere?

Hi Krythis, I share your pain..... This whole thread is really about not having to solder the nichrome to anything and to use a push-in connector method. Soldering nichrome is difficult at best. Have a look on page one to see if you can't use this method to rather connect to your atty connector?
 
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